Obama's Involvement In Bin Laden Takedown Was Simply A Nod

[Peach]

There is NOTHING in that statement that says Bush rescinded or changed any order on finding Bin Laden. That is truly desperate on your part. It is foolish to try to assume that with the resources available to the POTUS, that Bush did not have the means to continue the search for Bin laden as well as handle other plans. Or tell me? Do you think the POTUS of any administration is actually involved in military intelligence more than just receiving a daily briefing? Do you really think that Obama was studying the intel and telling Delta where they should look?

No, but the Iraq disaster was a distraction that should not have begun.

There is nothing to indicate that Bin Laden would have been found a day sooner had we never gone into Iraq. The distraction argument is simply illogical. The only negative impact on the Afghanistan campaign caused by the Iraq campaign that I can see was that our troops were stretched too thin. I personally don't think we should have had boots on the ground in Afghanistan. I don't fault Bush for not finding Bin Laden, but I do fault him for taking us to a ground war in a place we should have just obliterated by air power.

We do not have unlimited troops, nor military intel.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

CIA disbands Bin laden unit | World news | The Guardian
Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube
Obama in 2008: 'We Will Kill Bin Laden, We Will Crush Al Qaeda' - YouTube
President Obama: U.S. has killed Osama bin Laden - YouTube

Any questions?

Yep and if we had left it to the Do Nothing Repubs, bin Laden would still be jacking off to porn.

Vice President Biden is fond of saying that bin Laden is dead and GM is alive. If the golfing, drinking, smoking pubs had anything to do with it, it would be the other way around.

Turns out he had reason not to be concerned.

OBL was reduced to living a hermit life with little or no contact with the outside world.

Oh well, in that case, we should just have forgiven him for killing more than 3000 people, most of whom were Americans.

Or, would you like for us to send him new porn every month or so? Or maybe a nice fruit basket?

I am SO friggin sick of the anti-America rw's who want to take credit for what President Obama does but criticizes him for it at the same time.

 

[bodecea]

The butthurt over the death of OBL continues.

 

[Peach]

Turns out he had reason not to be concerned.

OBL was reduced to living a hermit life with little or no contact with the outside world.

Yeah...and the crimes he committed...I guess President Bush didn't care about "bringing justice to our enemies" any longer either huh?

Jesus, you're a fucking idiot sometimes.

Well, you're always one.

The war didn't stop while we were looking for him.

Meanwhile we had to get other bad guys fuckwad.

SAUDI funding, of COURSE:

The MB is financed by contributions from its members, who are required to allocate a portion of their income to the movement. Some of these contributions are from members who work in Saudi Arabia and other oil-rich countries.[15]

 

[mudwhistle]

There is NOTHING in that statement that says Bush rescinded or changed any order on finding Bin Laden. That is truly desperate on your part. It is foolish to try to assume that with the resources available to the POTUS, that Bush did not have the means to continue the search for Bin laden as well as handle other plans. Or tell me? Do you think the POTUS of any administration is actually involved in military intelligence more than just receiving a daily briefing? Do you really think that Obama was studying the intel and telling Delta where they should look?

No, but the Iraq disaster was a distraction that should not have begun.

There is nothing to indicate that Bin Laden would have been found a day sooner had we never gone into Iraq. The distraction argument is simply illogical. The only negative impact on the Afghanistan campaign caused by the Iraq campaign that I can see was that our troops were stretched too thin. I personally don't think we should have had boots on the ground in Afghanistan. I don't fault Bush for not finding Bin Laden, but I do fault him for taking us to a ground war in a place we should have just obliterated by air power.

These tools don't think we have the resources to multitask.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Killer ad.

One Chance. - YouTube

President Obama has always been willing to put his re-election on the line and do the right thing.

Unlike every single Republican we can name.

Thank you Mr President.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah...and the crimes he committed...I guess President Bush didn't care about "bringing justice to our enemies" any longer either huh?

Jesus, you're a fucking idiot sometimes.

Well, you're always one.

The war didn't stop while we were looking for him.

Meanwhile we had to get other bad guys fuckwad.

SAUDI funding, of COURSE:

The MB is financed by contributions from its members, who are required to allocate a portion of their income to the movement. Some of these contributions are from members who work in Saudi Arabia and other oil-rich countries.[15]

Your answer doesn't make any sense.

Are you sure you're on the right thread now?

 

[The T]

The Muslim Brotherhood is one of the biggest terrorist threats in the Middle East. One of their members works for Obama in Homeland Security.

Mohamed Elibiary, Homeland Security Advisory Committee Member

Want to Know Just How Close the Muslim Brotherhood Is to the Obama Admin?: He is the former president of the Freedom and Justice Foundation, which was billed to ”promote a Centrist Public Policy environment in Texas by coordinating the state level government and interfaith community relations for the organized Texas Muslim community.” He spoke at a 2004 conference in Dallas praising the “Great Islamic Visionary” Ayatollah Khomeini. Most recently he is famous for leaking highly sensitive intelligence documents to a media outlet in Texas. Want to Know Just How Close the Muslim Brotherhood Is to the Obama Admin? | Video | TheBlaze.com

And Obama has them in the WhiteHouse and in several Departments. Obama is in bed with them.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

Obama simply gave the go-ahead and was prepared to throw Adm William H. McRaven under the bus if anything when wrong. What was labelled a gusty call turns out to be barely a nod from a President that at the same moment was prepared to cast blame on the man put in charge of the mission using him in typical Obama fashion as a fall-guy.

How many of you even know who this guy is? Well, if proper credit had been given you would have known a lot about the man who took control of the mission and saw it through to it's successful conclusion. He should have been the one to make the announcement that Bin Laden was ether killed or captured.

During Desert Storm we became familiar with Gen Norman Schwartzkopf giving regular mission statements. George H. W. Bush allowed the General to take some of the glory. This is what good leaders do. Obama would have none of it. Instead he rushed in front of the cameras and hogged all of the glory for himself. The real heroes were essentially an after-thought. It would have been quite a different story if the mission had imploded and been a disaster similar to the failed Desert One debacle that took place just over 32 years ago in the desert sands of Tabas, Iran.

President Obama made the right call to give the green light to the mission. But he did it in a way that he could shift the blame if things went wrong. Typical Obama. And typical of him to claim full credit for it, when he didn’t do anything but give a vague nod, while putting his top military officials at risk of taking the hit in case of a bad turn. What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

This now famous photo in the White House war-room was simply a publicity photo taken during the wrap up of the mission. Notice Obama almost hiding because the final word on the mission was still pending. Everyone who was anyone showed up for this photo-op which surely would not have been released had the mission gone bad.

Links
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/...ecial-ops-may-expand-role-6QV5MP4-x-large.jpg
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/memo.jpg
William H. McRaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like Obama, I do not like his policies nor his politics. However he made a decision to allow our troops to basically invade an ally nation without their consent. If it had gone bad believe me he would have been accountable no matter how he tried to spin it.

It was a tough call and a bold move. Give him credit when it is due.

 

[Peach]

The butthurt over the death of OBL continues.

So it appears; bin Laden went from the greatest threat to America to an also ran very quickly.

 

[mudwhistle]

The butthurt over the death of OBL continues.

.....you're just pissed I owned your ass earlier.

 

[The T]

What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

Obama simply gave the go-ahead and was prepared to throw Adm William H. McRaven under the bus if anything when wrong. What was labelled a gusty call turns out to be barely a nod from a President that at the same moment was prepared to cast blame on the man put in charge of the mission using him in typical Obama fashion as a fall-guy.

How many of you even know who this guy is? Well, if proper credit had been given you would have known a lot about the man who took control of the mission and saw it through to it's successful conclusion. He should have been the one to make the announcement that Bin Laden was ether killed or captured.

During Desert Storm we became familiar with Gen Norman Schwartzkopf giving regular mission statements. George H. W. Bush allowed the General to take some of the glory. This is what good leaders do. Obama would have none of it. Instead he rushed in front of the cameras and hogged all of the glory for himself. The real heroes were essentially an after-thought. It would have been quite a different story if the mission had imploded and been a disaster similar to the failed Desert One debacle that took place just over 32 years ago in the desert sands of Tabas, Iran.

President Obama made the right call to give the green light to the mission. But he did it in a way that he could shift the blame if things went wrong. Typical Obama. And typical of him to claim full credit for it, when he didn’t do anything but give a vague nod, while putting his top military officials at risk of taking the hit in case of a bad turn. What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

This now famous photo in the White House war-room was simply a publicity photo taken during the wrap up of the mission. Notice Obama almost hiding because the final word on the mission was still pending. Everyone who was anyone showed up for this photo-op which surely would not have been released had the mission gone bad.

Links
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/...ecial-ops-may-expand-role-6QV5MP4-x-large.jpg
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/memo.jpg
William H. McRaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like Obama, I do not like his policies nor his politics. However he made a decision to allow our troops to basically invade an ally nation without their consent. If it had gone bad believe me he would have been accountable no matter how he tried to spin it.

It was a tough call and a bold move. Give him credit when it is due.

Indeed...for keeping in place Bushs' policy of getting him. And that's where it ends.

He and the Statists think Obama was responsible for the whole thing beginning to end. [GM is alive/bin-Laden Dead battle cry]

 

[mudwhistle]

What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

Obama simply gave the go-ahead and was prepared to throw Adm William H. McRaven under the bus if anything when wrong. What was labelled a gusty call turns out to be barely a nod from a President that at the same moment was prepared to cast blame on the man put in charge of the mission using him in typical Obama fashion as a fall-guy.

How many of you even know who this guy is? Well, if proper credit had been given you would have known a lot about the man who took control of the mission and saw it through to it's successful conclusion. He should have been the one to make the announcement that Bin Laden was ether killed or captured.

During Desert Storm we became familiar with Gen Norman Schwartzkopf giving regular mission statements. George H. W. Bush allowed the General to take some of the glory. This is what good leaders do. Obama would have none of it. Instead he rushed in front of the cameras and hogged all of the glory for himself. The real heroes were essentially an after-thought. It would have been quite a different story if the mission had imploded and been a disaster similar to the failed Desert One debacle that took place just over 32 years ago in the desert sands of Tabas, Iran.

President Obama made the right call to give the green light to the mission. But he did it in a way that he could shift the blame if things went wrong. Typical Obama. And typical of him to claim full credit for it, when he didn’t do anything but give a vague nod, while putting his top military officials at risk of taking the hit in case of a bad turn. What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

This now famous photo in the White House war-room was simply a publicity photo taken during the wrap up of the mission. Notice Obama almost hiding because the final word on the mission was still pending. Everyone who was anyone showed up for this photo-op which surely would not have been released had the mission gone bad.

Links
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/...ecial-ops-may-expand-role-6QV5MP4-x-large.jpg
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/memo.jpg
William H. McRaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like Obama, I do not like his policies nor his politics. However he made a decision to allow our troops to basically invade an ally nation without their consent. If it had gone bad believe me he would have been accountable no matter how he tried to spin it.

It was a tough call and a bold move. Give him credit when it is due.

I have......but when he starts sites like www.gutsycall.com I draw the line.

 

[Peach]

What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

Obama simply gave the go-ahead and was prepared to throw Adm William H. McRaven under the bus if anything when wrong. What was labelled a gusty call turns out to be barely a nod from a President that at the same moment was prepared to cast blame on the man put in charge of the mission using him in typical Obama fashion as a fall-guy.

How many of you even know who this guy is? Well, if proper credit had been given you would have known a lot about the man who took control of the mission and saw it through to it's successful conclusion. He should have been the one to make the announcement that Bin Laden was ether killed or captured.

During Desert Storm we became familiar with Gen Norman Schwartzkopf giving regular mission statements. George H. W. Bush allowed the General to take some of the glory. This is what good leaders do. Obama would have none of it. Instead he rushed in front of the cameras and hogged all of the glory for himself. The real heroes were essentially an after-thought. It would have been quite a different story if the mission had imploded and been a disaster similar to the failed Desert One debacle that took place just over 32 years ago in the desert sands of Tabas, Iran.



This now famous photo in the White House war-room was simply a publicity photo taken during the wrap up of the mission. Notice Obama almost hiding because the final word on the mission was still pending. Everyone who was anyone showed up for this photo-op which surely would not have been released had the mission gone bad.

Links
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/...ecial-ops-may-expand-role-6QV5MP4-x-large.jpg
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/memo.jpg
William H. McRaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like Obama, I do not like his policies nor his politics. However he made a decision to allow our troops to basically invade an ally nation without their consent. If it had gone bad believe me he would have been accountable no matter how he tried to spin it.

It was a tough call and a bold move. Give him credit when it is due.

I have......but when he starts sites like www.gutsycall.com I draw the line.

I call it OVERDUE.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No, but the Iraq disaster was a distraction that should not have begun.

There is nothing to indicate that Bin Laden would have been found a day sooner had we never gone into Iraq. The distraction argument is simply illogical. The only negative impact on the Afghanistan campaign caused by the Iraq campaign that I can see was that our troops were stretched too thin. I personally don't think we should have had boots on the ground in Afghanistan. I don't fault Bush for not finding Bin Laden, but I do fault him for taking us to a ground war in a place we should have just obliterated by air power.

We do not have unlimited troops, nor military intel.

Bush and his Military advisors all agreed NOT to send large numbers of troops to Afghanistan right off the bat. WHY? Because the thinking ( and it is borne out by our current troop levels and the problems we have now) was that to many troops would rile up the Afghan citizenry and cause them to openly or quietly support the Taliban against a known invader.

With the surge we have caused exactly that to happen. More problems then solutions as the Afghans people do not like nor want outsiders in their Country.

Iraq had no bearing on the hunt for Osama Bin laden, those troops would never have been sent to Afghanistan anyway.

 

[Peach]

There is nothing to indicate that Bin Laden would have been found a day sooner had we never gone into Iraq. The distraction argument is simply illogical. The only negative impact on the Afghanistan campaign caused by the Iraq campaign that I can see was that our troops were stretched too thin. I personally don't think we should have had boots on the ground in Afghanistan. I don't fault Bush for not finding Bin Laden, but I do fault him for taking us to a ground war in a place we should have just obliterated by air power.

We do not have unlimited troops, nor military intel.

Bush and his Military advisors all agreed NOT to send large numbers of troops to Afghanistan right off the bat. WHY? Because the thinking ( and it is borne out by our current troop levels and the problems we have now) was that to many troops would rile up the Afghan citizenry and cause them to openly or quietly support the Taliban against a known invader.

With the surge we have caused exactly that to happen. More problems then solutions as the Afghans people do not like nor want outsiders in their Country.

Iraq had no bearing on the hunt for Osama Bin laden, those troops would never have been sent to Afghanistan anyway.

But thousands would be alive, and tens of thousands unhurt.

 

[Political Junky]

What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

Obama simply gave the go-ahead and was prepared to throw Adm William H. McRaven under the bus if anything when wrong. What was labelled a gusty call turns out to be barely a nod from a President that at the same moment was prepared to cast blame on the man put in charge of the mission using him in typical Obama fashion as a fall-guy.

How many of you even know who this guy is? Well, if proper credit had been given you would have known a lot about the man who took control of the mission and saw it through to it's successful conclusion. He should have been the one to make the announcement that Bin Laden was ether killed or captured.

During Desert Storm we became familiar with Gen Norman Schwartzkopf giving regular mission statements. George H. W. Bush allowed the General to take some of the glory. This is what good leaders do. Obama would have none of it. Instead he rushed in front of the cameras and hogged all of the glory for himself. The real heroes were essentially an after-thought. It would have been quite a different story if the mission had imploded and been a disaster similar to the failed Desert One debacle that took place just over 32 years ago in the desert sands of Tabas, Iran.



This now famous photo in the White House war-room was simply a publicity photo taken during the wrap up of the mission. Notice Obama almost hiding because the final word on the mission was still pending. Everyone who was anyone showed up for this photo-op which surely would not have been released had the mission gone bad.

Links
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/...ecial-ops-may-expand-role-6QV5MP4-x-large.jpg
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/memo.jpg
William H. McRaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like Obama, I do not like his policies nor his politics. However he made a decision to allow our troops to basically invade an ally nation without their consent. If it had gone bad believe me he would have been accountable no matter how he tried to spin it.

It was a tough call and a bold move. Give him credit when it is due.

Indeed...for keeping in place Bushs' policy of getting him. And that's where it ends.

He and the Statists think Obama was responsible for the whole thing beginning to end. [GM is alive/bin-Laden Dead battle cry]

This Bush?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o]Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't like Obama, I do not like his policies nor his politics. However he made a decision to allow our troops to basically invade an ally nation without their consent. If it had gone bad believe me he would have been accountable no matter how he tried to spin it.

It was a tough call and a bold move. Give him credit when it is due.

I have......but when he starts sites like www.gutsycall.com I draw the line.

I call it OVERDUE.

It's simply a site with his picture asking for money.

You know......I think you people would applaud if he took a shit on your heads.

 

[Peach]

I have......but when he starts sites like www.gutsycall.com I draw the line.

I call it OVERDUE.

It's simply a site with his picture asking for money.

You know......I think you people would applaud if he took a shit on your heads.

I am considering Romney myself.

 

[The T]

I have......but when he starts sites like www.gutsycall.com I draw the line.

I call it OVERDUE.

It's simply a site with his picture asking for money.

You know......I think you people would applaud if he took a shit on your heads.

...while exclaiming: "Thank you SIR...May I have another..."?