Obama's wrong. Mass killings aren't uncommon in other countries

That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

Mass shooting in the U.S,: 160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.
FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic
 
How wonderful...you right wing scum are now standing up for murderers...

What happened to America "EXCEPTIONAL-ISM"...Oh it doesn't fit THIS attack on Obama...
 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.

FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The FBI admitted their numbers were wrong......sorry to spoil your lies.....
 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

Mass shooting in the U.S,: 160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.

FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


Do you fucking realize that the author of the study the Atlantic uses in that piece you quote....David Kopel....doesn't say that........I have the original work that the Atlantic article misquoted ......
 
My head started to spin faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist when I read about Obama's claim. Sheesh. Either he's misinformed or that old liar is coming out in him again.

Here's his bullshit line:

"Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. It is in our power to do something about it." is the full quote.

So he's fucked up in his memory or lying again. How the hell do you forget Charlie Hebdo so damn quick Mr. President?

you and the right wing rag you are quoting ARE THE ONES LYING Tiny

That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

mmmmm' kay let's take a walk down memory lane and visit the worst shooting spree.

"In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp.

This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history.

Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences."

AND

"It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing."

AND

"In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11."

AND

"Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year."

Actually President Obama Mass Killings Aren t Uncommon In Other Countries
WHY do these RIGHT WING RAGS have to manipulate the TRUTH in order to CREATE CONTROVERSY?

Shame on you and them tiny....

WHY CUT OFF OBAMA'S QUOTE AND WHAT HE REALLY SAID?

Why?
You have CREATED AND MANUFACTURED the controversy on what he said, can't you see that?


"We do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun," Obama said at the White House. "At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. It is in our power to do something about it."

SHAME on you! Honestly, you should be more careful in what these right wing media outlets say and check them for accuracy before you regurgitate their made up LIES.

YOU are lying. The video does not lie. His EXACT words are "this type pf mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries". It's in the video

Obama on Charleston This does not happen in other advanced countries US news The Guardian
NOPE, you and your right wing media ARE LYING and DID NOT put the last two sentences in his quote....

PERIOD.

IT WAS EDITED out, on PURPOSE.

Read and listen and weep....

Obama Senseless murders in church shooting - CNNPolitics.com

good ole Commie news network. swooping in the clean up after that Dear Idiot Leader Obama. whoa
I listened to him Stephanie, unlike your right wing media edited crapola...

it's between the 3:00 and 4:00 minute mark on this video.

 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

Mass shooting in the U.S,: 160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.
FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The article you site in your post from the Atlantic uses David Kopels work on Japanese gun control...and he doesn't come close to saying what they say...I have posted about this before......the Atlantic is a great example of a gun control supporting journalist lying about the research they use.....

Japan has a low gun crime rate because they use police state tactics to keep the peace....

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/64kjgc.pdf

III. A Police State

Illegal gun possession, like illegal drug possession, is a consensual offense. There is no victim to complain to the police. Accordingly, in order to find illegal guns, the Japanese police are given broad search and seizure powers. The basic firearms law permits a policeman to search a person's belongings if the officer judges there is 'sufficient suspicion that a person is carrying a fire-arm, a sword or a knife' or if he judges that a person 'is likely to endanger life or body of other persons judging reasonably from his abnormal behavior or any other surrounding circumstances'.32 Once a weapon is found, the policeman may confiscate it. Even if the confiscation is later admitted to be an error, the firearm is sometimes not returned.33(pg.29)

In practice, the special law for weapons searches is not necessary, since the police routinely search at will. They ask suspicious characters to show them what is in their purse or sack.34 In the rare cases where a policeman's search (for a gun or any other contraband) is ruled illegal, it hardly matters; the Japanese courts permit the use of illegally seized evidence.35 And legal rules aside, Japanese, both criminals and ordinary citizens, are much the more willing than their American counterparts to consent to searches and to answer questions from the police.36

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'Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police...' explains the Japanese National Police Agency. In twice-a-year visit, officers fill out Residence Information Cards about who lives where and which family member to contact in case of emergency, what relation people in the house have to each other, what kind of work they do, if they work late, and what kind of carsthey own.37

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For example, the nation's official year-end police report includes statistics like 'Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct'. The police recorded 9,402 such incidents in 1985, and determined that 37.4 per cent of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had sex 'voluntarily'. The two leading reasons for having sex voluntarily were 'out of curiosity' for 19.6 per cent, and 'liked particular boy', for 18.1 per cent.40 The fact that police keep records on sex is simply a reflection of their keeping an eye on everything, including guns. Every person is the subject of a police dossier.41

****************

After the arrest, a suspect may be detained without bail for up to 28 days before the prosecutor brings the suspect before a judge.42 Even after the 28 day period is completed, detention in a Japanese police station may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Rearrest on another charge, bekken taihö, is a common police tactic for starting the suspect on another 28 day interrogation process. 'Rearrest' may (pg.30) occur while the suspect is still being held at the police station on the first charge. Some defendants may be held for several months without ever being brought before a judge.43 Courts approve 99.5 per cent of prosecutors' requests for detentions.44

Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a suspect in custody, and those meetings are strictly limited. In the months while a suspect is held prisoner, the defense counsel may see his or her client for one to five meetings lasting about 15 minutes each. Even that access will be denied if it hampers the police investigation. While under detention, suspects can be interrogated 12 hours a day, allowed to bathe only every fifth day, and may be prohibited from standing up, lying down, or leaning against the wall of their jail cells.45 Amnesty International calls the Japanese police custody system a 'flagrant violation of United Nations human rights principles'.46

The confession rate is 95 per cent.47 As a Tokyo police sergeant observes, 'It is no use to protest against power'.48 Suspects are not allowed to read confessions before they sign them, and suspects commonly complain that their confession was altered after signature. The police use confession as their main investigative technique, and when that fails, they can become frustrated and angry. The Tokyo Bar Association states that the police routinely 'engage in torture or illegal treatment'. The Tokyo Bar is particularly critical of the judiciary for its near-total disinterest in coercion during the confession process. 'Even in cases where suspects claimed to have been tortured and their bodies bore physical traces to back their claims, courts have still accepted their confessions'.49

So tell me....which of these police powers and legal processes do you want to see here to keep gun crime down....?
 
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That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.

FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The FBI admitted their numbers were wrong......sorry to spoil your lies.....


Guess it depends on who you listen to:

Fox Claims That FBI Report That Doesn't Cover Mass Shootings Falsified Mass Shooting Data
Fox Claims That FBI Report That Doesn t Cover Mass Shootings Falsified Mass Shooting Data Blog Media Matters for America

Fox News relied on claims from discredited gun researcher John Lott to falsely suggest that an FBI report inflated the occurrence of mass shootings, possibly for political reasons. In fact, the report in question covered only "active shooter situations" and explicitly noted in its introduction, "This is not a study of mass killings or mass shootings."
....................
Lott's falsehoods on the FBI report are now being promoted on Fox News. On the March 25 edition of Fox & Friends First, host Heather Childers reported the claim of Lott's group, the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC), that FBI data on mass shootings "may have been overstated for political purposes." While Childers spoke, onscreen text warned viewers of the supposedly "SHODY [sic] STATS":
 
My head started to spin faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist when I read about Obama's claim. Sheesh. Either he's misinformed or that old liar is coming out in him again.

Here's his bullshit line:

"Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."

So he's fucked up in his memory or lying again. How the hell do you forget Charlie Hebdo so damn quick Mr. President?

That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

mmmmm' kay let's take a walk down memory lane and visit the worst shooting spree.

"In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp.

This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history.

Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences."

AND

"It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing."

AND

"In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11."

AND

"Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year."

Actually President Obama Mass Killings Aren t Uncommon In Other Countries
Newflash

Obama is a liar.
 
My head started to spin faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist when I read about Obama's claim. Sheesh. Either he's misinformed or that old liar is coming out in him again.

Here's his bullshit line:

"Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. It is in our power to do something about it." is the full quote.

So he's fucked up in his memory or lying again. How the hell do you forget Charlie Hebdo so damn quick Mr. President?

you and the right wing rag you are quoting ARE THE ONES LYING Tiny

That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

mmmmm' kay let's take a walk down memory lane and visit the worst shooting spree.

"In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp.

This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history.

Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences."

AND

"It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing."

AND

"In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11."

AND

"Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year."

Actually President Obama Mass Killings Aren t Uncommon In Other Countries
WHY do these RIGHT WING RAGS have to manipulate the TRUTH in order to CREATE CONTROVERSY?

Shame on you and them tiny....

WHY CUT OFF OBAMA'S QUOTE AND WHAT HE REALLY SAID?

Why?
You have CREATED AND MANUFACTURED the controversy on what he said, can't you see that?


"We do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun," Obama said at the White House. "At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. It is in our power to do something about it."

SHAME on you! Honestly, you should be more careful in what these right wing media outlets say and check them for accuracy before you regurgitate their made up LIES.

YOU are lying. The video does not lie. His EXACT words are "this type pf mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries". It's in the video

Obama on Charleston This does not happen in other advanced countries US news The Guardian
NOPE, you and your right wing media ARE LYING and DID NOT put the last two sentences in his quote....

PERIOD.

IT WAS EDITED out, on PURPOSE.

Read and listen and weep....

Obama Senseless murders in church shooting - CNNPolitics.com

LMAO You're such a drone. The video isn't edited LMAO
the op Article posted in the 1st post, in writing, edited out Obama's FULL STATEMENT, so stop lying, pretty please...;)

here it is again between the 3 min and 4 min spot.

 
My head started to spin faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist when I read about Obama's claim. Sheesh. Either he's misinformed or that old liar is coming out in him again.

Here's his bullshit line:

"Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."

So he's fucked up in his memory or lying again. How the hell do you forget Charlie Hebdo so damn quick Mr. President?

That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

mmmmm' kay let's take a walk down memory lane and visit the worst shooting spree.

"In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp.

This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history.

Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences."

AND

"It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing."

AND

"In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11."

AND

"Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year."

Actually President Obama Mass Killings Aren t Uncommon In Other Countries


USA's first in the world for guns per 100k people BUT 28th for gun violence.

Gun availability doesn't correlate to gun violence. And not to put too fine a point on it Mr. President, but I notice you surround yourself with lots of people armed with guns...
 
Where was the greatest mass shooting in history....

South Korea....I think Norway beat him though.......two countries that arn't the United States by the way....

Woo Bum-kon - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Obviously NK and Norway are not advanced societies.
can you imagine if Cruz or Rubio made the same claim before Obama brought it up?
you could see it now, either one would of been thrown to the lions by the media, obama would of just kept quiet,even though he felt the same way, but since the media is beating up on a latino candidate, obama would of been like,,,,whew, that was a close one, good thing i didnt say it first.
 
My head started to spin faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist when I read about Obama's claim. Sheesh. Either he's misinformed or that old liar is coming out in him again.

Here's his bullshit line:

"Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."

So he's fucked up in his memory or lying again. How the hell do you forget Charlie Hebdo so damn quick Mr. President?

That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

mmmmm' kay let's take a walk down memory lane and visit the worst shooting spree.

"In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp.

This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history.

Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences."

AND

"It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing."

AND

"In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11."

AND

"Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year."

Actually President Obama Mass Killings Aren t Uncommon In Other Countries
Mass killings happen in other developed countries. They happen. They are not common. In a year in America such killings happen multiple times. In other advanced countries they may happen once or not at all. The contention of your OP is ludicrous and childish.
per capita - definition of per capita by The Free Dictionary
It amazes me that you have to pull incidents from around the globe over ten years just to approximate what we see in five
Why not?
The Obama is speaking of his own perception. He's been president for eight years.
We're talking ratios, not straight numbers
Outside of cherry picking some single worst case shootings like Norway, none of your ratios come close to what our country puts up with

In other words, if we ignore all the cases that are worse than the United States, then they are all better than the United States.

Really?
 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

Mass shooting in the U.S,: 160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.
FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The article you site in your post from the Atlantic uses David Kopels work on Japanese gun control...and he doesn't come close to saying what they say...I have posted about this before......the Atlantic is a great example of a gun control supporting journalist lying about the research they use.....

Japan has a low gun crime rate because they use police state tactics to keep the peace....

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/64kjgc.pdf


From your article:

"""Gun crime does exist, but in very low numbers. There were only 30 crimes committed in 1989 with shotguns or air rifles.17 With no legal civilian handgun possession, Japan experiences in an average year less than 200 violent crimes perpetrated with a handgun, of which almost all are perpetrated by Boryokudan, organised crime groups.18""


That's from 1989. It's even lower now.

WaPo also supports the zero rate, not just Atlantic.

The Japan lesson: Can America learn from the country that has almost zero gun deaths?

The Japan lesson Can America learn from the country that has almost zero gun deaths - The Washington Post


It's amazing that the right wingers just don't care about American iives...unless they're not born yet.


 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.

FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The FBI admitted their numbers were wrong......sorry to spoil your lies.....


Guess it depends on who you listen to:

Fox Claims That FBI Report That Doesn't Cover Mass Shootings Falsified Mass Shooting Data
Fox Claims That FBI Report That Doesn t Cover Mass Shootings Falsified Mass Shooting Data Blog Media Matters for America

Fox News relied on claims from discredited gun researcher John Lott to falsely suggest that an FBI report inflated the occurrence of mass shootings, possibly for political reasons. In fact, the report in question covered only "active shooter situations" and explicitly noted in its introduction, "This is not a study of mass killings or mass shootings."
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Lott's falsehoods on the FBI report are now being promoted on Fox News. On the March 25 edition of Fox & Friends First, host Heather Childers reported the claim of Lott's group, the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC), that FBI data on mass shootings "may have been overstated for political purposes." While Childers spoke, onscreen text warned viewers of the supposedly "SHODY [sic] STATS":


yeah....media matters....enough said.......they lie...all the time....
 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

Mass shooting in the U.S,: 160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.
FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The article you site in your post from the Atlantic uses David Kopels work on Japanese gun control...and he doesn't come close to saying what they say...I have posted about this before......the Atlantic is a great example of a gun control supporting journalist lying about the research they use.....

Japan has a low gun crime rate because they use police state tactics to keep the peace....

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/64kjgc.pdf


From your article:

"""Gun crime does exist, but in very low numbers. There were only 30 crimes committed in 1989 with shotguns or air rifles.17 With no legal civilian handgun possession, Japan experiences in an average year less than 200 violent crimes perpetrated with a handgun, of which almost all are perpetrated by Boryokudan, organised crime groups.18""


That's from 1989. It's even lower now.

WaPo also supports the zero rate, not just Atlantic.

The Japan lesson: Can America learn from the country that has almost zero gun deaths?

The Japan lesson Can America learn from the country that has almost zero gun deaths - The Washington Post


It's amazing that the right wingers just don't care about American iives...unless they're not born yet.



It has nothing to do with gun access...Japan is less violent and less criminal as a culture....nothing to do with guns...they suffer group embarrassment and humiliation to keep each other law abiding.....all crime is low in Japan.....

Robbery is almost as rare as murder. Indeed, armed robbery and murder are both so rare that they usually make the national news, regardless of where they occur.29 Japan's robbery rate is 1.4 per 100,000 inhabitants. The reported American rate is 220.9.30 People walk anywhere in Japan at night, and carry large sums of cash.31
 
That body count was 11. Including a policeman. Injured another 11.

And in support of that attack 5 Jews were slaughtered in France, 11 injured.

France is an advanced country is it not?

Yeah, but how often does that happen in France?

We have a couple of these incidents every year now in the US.

France has maybe one a decade...

There was a thread about this earlier, with a list of first world countries who have had mass killings since 2000. I think Germany had three and the other countries one or two. So as usual, I had to add a dose of reality to that thread as I will do for this one, too:

160 incidents between 2000 and 2013 according to the FBI.

FBI: A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20...r-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013

Japan has a zero murder rate. That's 0 for those who think this is a typo. Japan is about as first world as you can get.
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

A Land Without Guns How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic


The FBI admitted their numbers were wrong......sorry to spoil your lies.....


Link? Nothing there but the air between your ears and the Fox Noise in your head.

And then there's this: You really should scratch beneath the surface:


"""But late last week, J. Pete Blair and M. Hunter Martaindale, two academics at Texas State University who co-authored the FBI report, acknowledged that “our data is imperfect.” They said that the news media “got it wrong” last year when they “mistakenly reported mass shootings were on the rise.”
 

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