Offical Impeachment Thread

[Billiejeens]

This is nothing more than a weeks or months long campaign commercial for the Dimocrat party, and YOU Mr and Ms taxpayer are paying for it.

After Benghazi and the e-mails you really have no grounds to complain. Sondland just obliterated your fat idiot this morning.

He sure did, by telling us that the president explicitly stated there was to be NO quid pro quo, and thus no bribery.

And that he didn't want anything other than he simply wanted the Ukraine President to do the right thing.

 

[OldLady]

schitt's gives his impression of what has been said wrong every time. every fking time. he lies. He is a liar in my chamber. Arrest that mthr fker now.

Schiff is absolute trash.

think he knows he's the butt of the joke in America nowadays

You guys love attacking your oppsotion.....but Trump is the real punchline--before DC is done with him..he's going to be ground to greasy remnants...his brand in tatters and his place in history one step below McCarthy and Wallace.

Whether he is removed or not...is moot. He is toast....and it will be a cold day in hell before we elect another of his ilk...he was your one and only shot.

I fear you're dreaming. But I wish you were right.

I just has to be, it just has to be!!!!!

lol

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Pretty cut and dry

Sure is. The only thing Jordan failed to mention was that "none of that materialized" because Trump got caught.

We cannot guess at intent on what we see. That is the whole flaw of the impeachment. They cannot prove intent, which is critical. They can only guess at it.

You're right. Intent is very hard to prove. I think Trump's actions are loud enough, but perhaps a technicality like that will save his ass in the end. We'll have to see.

Right. If Trump states I wanted the Bidens investigated because of 2016 and how they went after me when I was a candidate. There is ZERO wrong with that. If Trump states, I wanted the Bidens investigated because Joe is running against me in 2020, that is a major flaw and he gets thrown out of office. But which is it? Trump says its the former but the Democrats state it is the latter. Impossible to prove intent and hence they cannot impeach. Democrats also lost credibility because of the whole Stormy Daniels/Avenatti, Russia Collusion, Strzok and Paige, and now this. You can only cry wolf so many times until people stop listening and may ignore the real wolf. Lastly the Democrats embarrassed themselves yet again by going after Kavanaugh without any proof and later it was revealed that the Ford was pro choice and did it for that reason.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The desperation this waste of protoplasm is just losing desperation. I think he may have set new records for the numbers of conspiracy theories espoused in one speech.

 

[OldLady]

Pretty cut and dry

Sure is. The only thing Jordan failed to mention was that "none of that materialized" because Trump got caught.

We cannot guess at intent on what we see. That is the whole flaw of the impeachment. They cannot prove intent, which is critical. They can only guess at it.

You're right. Intent is very hard to prove. I think Trump's actions are loud enough, but perhaps a technicality like that will save his ass in the end. We'll have to see.

Right. If Trump states I wanted the Bidens investigated because of 2016 and how they went after me when I was a candidate. There is ZERO wrong with that. If Trump states, I wanted the Bidens investigated because Joe is running against me in 2020, that is a major flaw and he gets thrown out of office. But which is it? Trump says its the former but the Democrats state it is the latter. Impossible to prove intent and hence they cannot impeach. Democrats also lost credibility because of the whole Stormy Daniels/Avenatti, Russia Collusion, Strzok and Paige, and now this. You can only cry wolf so many times until people stop listening and may ignore the real wolf. Lastly the Democrats embarrassed themselves yet again by going after Kavanaugh without any proof and later it was revealed that the Ford was pro choice and did it for that reason.

That's got nothing to do with what you and I were just talking about, but if it makes you feel better, I'm happy for ya.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Pretty cut and dry

Sure is. The only thing Jordan failed to mention was that "none of that materialized" because Trump got caught.

We cannot guess at intent on what we see. That is the whole flaw of the impeachment. They cannot prove intent, which is critical. They can only guess at it.

You're right. Intent is very hard to prove. I think Trump's actions are loud enough, but perhaps a technicality like that will save his ass in the end. We'll have to see.

Right. If Trump states I wanted the Bidens investigated because of 2016 and how they went after me when I was a candidate. There is ZERO wrong with that. If Trump states, I wanted the Bidens investigated because Joe is running against me in 2020, that is a major flaw and he gets thrown out of office. But which is it? Trump says its the former but the Democrats state it is the latter. Impossible to prove intent and hence they cannot impeach. Democrats also lost credibility because of the whole Stormy Daniels/Avenatti, Russia Collusion, Strzok and Paige, and now this. You can only cry wolf so many times until people stop listening and may ignore the real wolf. Lastly the Democrats embarrassed themselves yet again by going after Kavanaugh without any proof and later it was revealed that the Ford was pro choice and did it for that reason.

That's got nothing to do with what you and I were just talking about, but if it makes you feel better, I'm happy for ya.

It does because proving Intent is critical.

 

[bendog]

And the usual denial by the Head In The Sand crowd

Lol, yup they graduated from DEEP STATE UNIVERSITY!

And again, Trump trying a quid pro quo should not have any effect on the election. But his dragging this out, and forcing lies to cover up his idiocy, just might rehabilitate Biden in a way. I thought Biden's worst feature was he was LIKE Trump. Old, out of touch with those of us concerned about healthcare and educating children (JFC "busing") and with crooked children.

And the kids should never have been in issue. Look at Carter, Ford and Reagan's kids. So they don't own Trump Towers or control billions of investments. Normally, president's relatives are more amusing.

Now Joe can say he won't use Bill Barr to investigate Ivanka and the Real Estate Failure.

Volker and Morrison were supposed to be the Republican witnesses for the President. Every witness so far, including Volker and Morrison have opined that the "Crowstrike theory" is a hoax and a false conspiracy theory to deflect from blaming Russia for election interference and has now basis in fact. Russia hacked the DNC server, and the Biden firing of the prosecutor was done in accordance with stated public policy in all of the free world, at that time.

If these are the best witnesses that the President has, he's in big trouble. It was especially delightful yesterday that when Jim Jordan attacked Lt. Col. Vindland, his response was to read his latest performance review out loud. Trump's attack dog keeps getting his ass handed to him on a plate. Yes, let's get the guy who "started it all" in for testimony. I agree, but I don't think President Trump will come.

Well, I think Morrison was a Bolton guy, and that makes him NOT a deep stater, but not necessarily a Trump guy either. Bolton isn't really gonna be a help either way, and he's certainly no champion of truth. Rather, he's a an ideologue. He shares Trump's nationalistic views, but he's not pro-Russia, and he certainly doesn't share Trump's aim of appeasing the Sunnis for money. Bolton folks are more a ticking time bomb that when it goes off will indiscriminately kill any innocents who happen to be nearby the "evildoers." lol

Volker was more a republican careerist. He lost his slot when Obama got elected. I have no idea why. Generally Dept of State guys just float along.

I dont see how any president can serve if everyone around him is dedicated to his downfall

America is coming apart at the seams

It's more that not everyone in his admin is wiling to commit perjury or lie to congress under oath and go to the pokey for him. They either quit or flip. And it's not like this was unexpected. He's trying to run the country like he did his casino building biz.

 

[bendog]

Sure is. The only thing Jordan failed to mention was that "none of that materialized" because Trump got caught.

We cannot guess at intent on what we see. That is the whole flaw of the impeachment. They cannot prove intent, which is critical. They can only guess at it.

You're right. Intent is very hard to prove. I think Trump's actions are loud enough, but perhaps a technicality like that will save his ass in the end. We'll have to see.

Right. If Trump states I wanted the Bidens investigated because of 2016 and how they went after me when I was a candidate. There is ZERO wrong with that. If Trump states, I wanted the Bidens investigated because Joe is running against me in 2020, that is a major flaw and he gets thrown out of office. But which is it? Trump says its the former but the Democrats state it is the latter. Impossible to prove intent and hence they cannot impeach. Democrats also lost credibility because of the whole Stormy Daniels/Avenatti, Russia Collusion, Strzok and Paige, and now this. You can only cry wolf so many times until people stop listening and may ignore the real wolf. Lastly the Democrats embarrassed themselves yet again by going after Kavanaugh without any proof and later it was revealed that the Ford was pro choice and did it for that reason.

That's got nothing to do with what you and I were just talking about, but if it makes you feel better, I'm happy for ya.

It does because proving Intent is critical.

You need a different RW wingnut news site to parrot.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Biden does NOT EQUAL BURISMA.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We cannot guess at intent on what we see. That is the whole flaw of the impeachment. They cannot prove intent, which is critical. They can only guess at it.

You're right. Intent is very hard to prove. I think Trump's actions are loud enough, but perhaps a technicality like that will save his ass in the end. We'll have to see.

Right. If Trump states I wanted the Bidens investigated because of 2016 and how they went after me when I was a candidate. There is ZERO wrong with that. If Trump states, I wanted the Bidens investigated because Joe is running against me in 2020, that is a major flaw and he gets thrown out of office. But which is it? Trump says its the former but the Democrats state it is the latter. Impossible to prove intent and hence they cannot impeach. Democrats also lost credibility because of the whole Stormy Daniels/Avenatti, Russia Collusion, Strzok and Paige, and now this. You can only cry wolf so many times until people stop listening and may ignore the real wolf. Lastly the Democrats embarrassed themselves yet again by going after Kavanaugh without any proof and later it was revealed that the Ford was pro choice and did it for that reason.

That's got nothing to do with what you and I were just talking about, but if it makes you feel better, I'm happy for ya.

It does because proving Intent is critical.

You need a different RW wingnut news site to parrot.

You don't know what I need, little man. You're a parasite.

 

[Auld Phart]

This isn’t an inquiry. The Dimms have already made up their minds.

Why don’t they just vote on it?

Schiff isn’t INQUIRING about anything, he is just trying to prove his side.

This is such a bizarre circus.

I love how all the witnesses give their back stories about what great Americans they are. Who gives a shit where your parents are from?

schitt's gives his impression of what has been said wrong every time. every fking time. he lies. He is a liar in my chamber. Arrest that mthr fker now.

Schiff is absolute trash.

think he knows he's the butt of the joke in America nowadays

You guys love attacking your oppsotion.....but Trump is the real punchline--before DC is done with him..he's going to be ground to greasy remnants...his brand in tatters and his place in history one step below McCarthy and Wallace.

Whether he is removed or not...is moot. He is toast....and it will be a cold day in hell before we elect another of his ilk...he was your one and only shot.

.and it will be a cold day in hell before we elect another of his ilk..

11/3/20 is going to be a cold day in hell?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Lol, yup they graduated from DEEP STATE UNIVERSITY!

And again, Trump trying a quid pro quo should not have any effect on the election. But his dragging this out, and forcing lies to cover up his idiocy, just might rehabilitate Biden in a way. I thought Biden's worst feature was he was LIKE Trump. Old, out of touch with those of us concerned about healthcare and educating children (JFC "busing") and with crooked children.

And the kids should never have been in issue. Look at Carter, Ford and Reagan's kids. So they don't own Trump Towers or control billions of investments. Normally, president's relatives are more amusing.

Now Joe can say he won't use Bill Barr to investigate Ivanka and the Real Estate Failure.

Volker and Morrison were supposed to be the Republican witnesses for the President. Every witness so far, including Volker and Morrison have opined that the "Crowstrike theory" is a hoax and a false conspiracy theory to deflect from blaming Russia for election interference and has now basis in fact. Russia hacked the DNC server, and the Biden firing of the prosecutor was done in accordance with stated public policy in all of the free world, at that time.

If these are the best witnesses that the President has, he's in big trouble. It was especially delightful yesterday that when Jim Jordan attacked Lt. Col. Vindland, his response was to read his latest performance review out loud. Trump's attack dog keeps getting his ass handed to him on a plate. Yes, let's get the guy who "started it all" in for testimony. I agree, but I don't think President Trump will come.

Well, I think Morrison was a Bolton guy, and that makes him NOT a deep stater, but not necessarily a Trump guy either. Bolton isn't really gonna be a help either way, and he's certainly no champion of truth. Rather, he's a an ideologue. He shares Trump's nationalistic views, but he's not pro-Russia, and he certainly doesn't share Trump's aim of appeasing the Sunnis for money. Bolton folks are more a ticking time bomb that when it goes off will indiscriminately kill any innocents who happen to be nearby the "evildoers." lol

Volker was more a republican careerist. He lost his slot when Obama got elected. I have no idea why. Generally Dept of State guys just float along.

I dont see how any president can serve if everyone around him is dedicated to his downfall

America is coming apart at the seams

It's more that not everyone in his admin is wiling to commit perjury or lie to congress under oath and go to the pokey for him. They either quit or flip. And it's not like this was unexpected. He's trying to run the country like he did his casino building biz.

But he can spell "willing"

 

[OKTexas]

Name 1 reason why Vindman shouldn’t be Court Martialed.

I think he should get a knock on his door from the FBI. He refuses to say who he talked to in the intel community, there's no proof that individual had a need to know about the call. And these stupid assed congress critters didn't ask that question.

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[ColonelAngus]

Wow, this Sewell bitch is badgering the fuck out of Sondland.

 

[WEATHER53]

There are no witnesses and no evidence but Dems “feel” something is awry so the shits show witch hunt farce continues.

 

[Papageorgio]

What kind of investigation will the Senate open up when it comes to trying Trump? Will they expand the investigation into Biden, his son and other Democrats? This maybe a can that the Democrats really don’t want to open and let Republicans run with.

 

[OKTexas]

Then I guess the Republicans were either too stupid to do something about it or just didn't fucking care, huh?

Gotta love those arguments. Hillary is still guilty even though repubs had 2 years of full control and she didn’t get locked up. The right is delusional...

My question has been, what really did Trump do differently from what the Hillary Haters complain Hillary did? (And I'm pretty sick of Hillary post 2008 behavior)

Hillary said "you want to contact the SoS for a meeting, you have to donate to my charity." Trump said "you want me to recoginize your govt and help you stop Russian aggression in your country, you have to help me cook up evidence to destroy my persona enemy"

To me that's the entire point of the dems impeachment strategy.

The problem with Clinton is there were several investigations and they all proved nothing. The republicans just kept on repeating investigations until the end of the 2016 election.

Hillary took money for meetings but the money went to her "charity." The gop didn't prove "illegal," but they proved she was crooked.

And Trump isn't going to jail or being kicked out of office. But he's a pig of a person morally and he's a crook.

None of that was proven, and Hillary stepped out of the Foundation while she was secretary of state. Now I think you fail to realize that her husband was a former president. He had big fundraiser clout without her being secretary of state. He had relationships with leaders in all areas on a world wide basis. He did not have to use the secretary of state.

Yet once she lost the election, fund raising dried up and much of the foundation was shut down. Where'd all this independent fund raising clout go?

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[luchitociencia]

To the question about who will benefit with the investigation on Hunter Biden, the answer is clear: We The People.

The ambassador does not represent the president, an ambassador represents the United States of America wherever he goes.

Sadly, this ambassador didn't get whom is he working for. Any investigation of corruption where politicians and their families might be involved, that is a concern for all Americans.

 

[Dragonlady]

schitt's gives his impression of what has been said wrong every time. every fking time. he lies. He is a liar in my chamber. Arrest that mthr fker now.

Schiff is absolute trash.

he's a traitor. and should be arrested immediately.

How about when he read that fake version of the phone call on the floor on Congress? Holy shit, I just couldn’t believe it. He should have been made to resign immediately at a minimum.

I agree. It just shows how politicians know they can lie and not be held accountable by their own. Remember Harry Reid lyingmon the floor, too?
Harry Reid Admits He Lies On The Senate Floor | National Review

Pubs should just start doing the same shit.

Republicans started doing that when Clinton was elected. They're still doing it.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

What kind of investigation will the Senate open up when it comes to trying Trump? Will they expand the investigation into Biden, his son and other Democrats? This maybe a can that the Democrats really don’t want to open and let Republicans run with.

Open it.