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You think that Ukraine is the only country where there was delays?
Both Volker and Morrison said the less than two month delay of the aid had no effect on Ukraines defensive capabilities. And the Javelin missile sale was apart form that aid.
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Still why was it delayed you have not answered that one question
Trump has been president for 3 years and there was no previous delays or concerns so why all of the sudden he delays it by presidential order
When Rudy was globe trotting looking into Ukraine matters
Is Rudy a state official or is he Trumps private lawyer
He claims to be both. He claimed to be acting at the direction of *cough* "members of the State Department", then he also tweeted that all of his actions in Ukraine were done in the interest of defending his client, Donald Trump.Is Rudy a state official or is he Trumps private lawyer
Despite REAL serious statutory crimes; perjury, suborning of perjury and obstruction of justice, the country wasn't behind impeachment and the GOP did NOT have a good mid-term. So, if you want to copy one of our more self-destructive mistakes, be our guest!You want to impeach the President based on your mind-reading? Never going to happen. Oh well, you might impeach him, but the American People will never support removal based on hear-say and Democrat mind-reading and no treason, bribery or high crimes.what does the transcript says
Trump
we do ·a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot.of time.
the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. He talks about some server that belongs to the DNC that somehow ends up in Ukraine and Crowdstrike. Clearly he is watching to much FOX news and reading repub bloggers. Why would Ukraine have that server? He then moves on to an investigation and the Bidens
He has laid out what the US does for them and also casting doubt on the Europeans wanting to do things for Ukraine thus who can you count on
Trump and the Ukraine Prez admits in the transcript that US is more of an important player than the EU
given the fact that Ukraine is up against Russia in Crimea and we know Russia has way more resources. Ukraine needs this aid. Yet we know that the aid is already on hold. Trump does not mention this.
The Ukrainian president even mentions the need for more Javelin missiles
clearly this is laying out what Ukrainian needs (the aid)
Trump
I would like you to do us a favor though
because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
this whole situation with Ukraine
Trump is asking for a favor after setting up the guy with how much they need the US
The transcript clearly says that Trump he want him to meet with Rudy G
Rudy G is not a government official and is Trumps personal lawyer
Trump then talks about Biden and Biden's son and how Biden supposedly stop an investigation in Ukraine
Thus suggesting an investigation and then casually throws in the Biden's
This is what you can do for me restart an investigation that wasn't about Biden or Biden son but about this Ukrainian energy company being corrupt but he clearly mentions Biden
Repubs want to hold out that they eventually got the money and there was no quid pro quo
well part of the quid pro quo was them getting the money and assistance
and trump getting an investigation not because he is worried about some some Ukrainian energy company but dirt on the Biden's
Time line
April 25, 2019 Joe Biden announces he is running for president
July 3 the aid was on hold
July 10
A meeting at the White House with Ukrainian officials is cut short when Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, says he has an agreement with the acting White House chief of staff that Ukraine’s president would get a meeting with Trump if Ukraine agreed to launch investigations.
July 18
In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the White House Office of Management and Budget announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Presidential order
July 25th the phone call to Ukraine's president
So he has already frozen the money yet he is bragging about the aid that the US provides
Catherine Croft, the special adviser for Ukraine at the State Department, says two Ukrainians reach out to her to ask about the status of the military assistance. She told lawmakers she couldn’t recall the exact dates, but believes the outreach took place before the Aug. 28 publication of a Politico article detailing the hold.
A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from congress.
late Aug
Politico publishes details that the military aid to Ukraine is on hold, setting off a scramble among diplomats in Ukraine and the United States.
The lid is coming off
William Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, testified that he did not know the aid had been withheld until after the Politico article appeared, when he started receiving “desperate” calls from Ukrainian officials.
“The minister of defense came to me,” he said. “I would use the word ‘desperate,’ to try to figure out why the assistance was held.”
Taylor said the minister thought if he spoke to Congress, or the White House, he could find out the reason and reassure them of whatever was necessary to get the aid. If the money wasn’t provided by Sept. 30, it would be lost.
Sept 9 the investigation begins
allegations that Trump, his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and possibly others, tried to pressure the Ukrainian government to help the president’s reelection campaign by digging up dirt on a political rival.
All of the sudden on Aug 11 the release on the aid is lifted
The funds are suddenly released. Senate Republicans said that happened in part because Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, threatened to block $5 billion in Pentagon spending for 2020 if the aid wasn’t given to Ukraine. They said the aid was held up while Trump looked into whether Zelenskiy was serious about fighting corruption. Taylor and other diplomats involved in Ukraine were not
given a reason for the aid being released.
Taylor said Ukraine’s president was planning to do an interview with CNN in which he would make a public statement on the investigations that Trump had pushed for.
Taylor was concerned about the interview and its potential to play into “domestic U.S. politics,” and on Sept. 13 asked Ukrainian officials about it.
The interview never happens and was cancelled by Ukraine's president
So they were about to announce an investigation that Trump had suggested in prime time in the US media. Yet since the aid being withheld, the call for a favor and the investigation were now in the spotlight. Oh never mind.
I thought trump was interested in this investigation about corruption and was withholding the aid.
But here we are in November and no investigation.
So clearly what happen Trump and his crew knew what he was going to be said and to prevent a total disaster they released the money.
Well I suppose NO quid pro quo would be a better argument for repubs
instead of the more serious issues of campaign finance law violations, bribery, extortion, and conspiracy
Not to mention an inherently unfair process. Even if you had crimes you would need an unquestionable bipartisan process and you guys have the Schiff Kangaroo Court. You're screwed, it now comes down to how you will face up to that and extricate yourself from this tar baby.
Oh sorry not a repub so do not buy it
U were probably on the clinton impeachment bandwagon when the shoe was on the other foot...
Trump released this lethal weapons within the quarter, that Obama NEVER released, and funny thing, no jumping up and down by the CIA, the Intelligence Community and the Deep State over Obama with holding lethal aid....Trump is guilty as there was no reason to withhold funds except that it was the deal he talked about on the call
How did it pan out for me? Clinton lost the election because her corrupt behavior was exposed.
Interesting. Conservatives see self-worth as being about winning, no matter how vile and disgusting they had to act to win. In contrast, liberals see self-worth as being about being being a good person.
It worked out rather well for me. How did it work out for you?
As I won't burn in Hell for eternity, pretty damn good.
Obama delayed it and NEVER released it, you have not answered that one question.
Both Volker and Morrison said the less than two month delay of the aid had no effect on Ukraines defensive capabilities. And the Javelin missile sale was apart form that aid.
.
Still why was it delayed you have not answered that one question...
I vote:Who was really vile and disgusting in that race?
You think that Ukraine is the only country where there was delays?
Both Volker and Morrison said the less than two month delay of the aid had no effect on Ukraines defensive capabilities. And the Javelin missile sale was apart form that aid.
.
Still why was it delayed you have not answered that one question
Trump has been president for 3 years and there was no previous delays or concerns so why all of the sudden he delays it by presidential order
When Rudy was globe trotting looking into Ukraine matters
Is Rudy a state official or is he Trumps private lawyer
Ask Pakistan about it, and if that's not good enough ask Lebanon if they are still waiting.
Who was really vile and disgusting in that race? Who did sleazy and corrupt things to get the nomination and try to steal the election?
Sorry, Mamooth but as much as you'd like it to be Trump...it was really Hillary Clinton and the Democrats who were vile and disgusting.
They actually PAID to have their political opponent smeared with phony dossiers. You think that equates to them being "good" people? You're amusing...
I vote:Who was really vile and disgusting in that race?
The pussy grabbing braggard, the "totally would fuck her, if she were not my daughter" guy, the guy who raw dogged a porn star while his wife was at home with their baby and then committed a felony by paying her off (the porn star, that is... the wife was a totally legit purchase), the guy who stole from a charity, the guy who had a fraudulent university scheme....
I just gotta wonder. Has anyone asked how all of this aid and terrible need with Ukraine that Trump so horribly disrupted with a few weeks delay might all have been different today had not Hillary and Obama pulled that Eastern Europe missile defense shield a few years ago???Both Volker and Morrison said the less than two month delay of the aid had no effect on Ukraines defensive capabilities. And the Javelin missile sale was apart form that aid.
Who was really vile and disgusting in that race? Who did sleazy and corrupt things to get the nomination and try to steal the election?
Trump. Was that some kind of trick question?
Sorry, Mamooth but as much as you'd like it to be Trump...it was really Hillary Clinton and the Democrats who were vile and disgusting.
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo,
Look, I understand that you actually believe most of the idiot conspiracy fables you were fed. You need to understand that the normal people, being attached to reality, didn't fall for those conspiracy theories.
They actually PAID to have their political opponent smeared with phony dossiers. You think that equates to them being "good" people? You're amusing...
My point was that all Trump cultists lie for power.
In response, a bunch of them have told further lies.
Trump cultists, I thank you for so convincingly proving my point.
It's not our fault that Trump keep's getting it right and the Left keeps getting egg on it's face.Who was really vile and disgusting in that race? Who did sleazy and corrupt things to get the nomination and try to steal the election?
Trump. Was that some kind of trick question?
Sorry, Mamooth but as much as you'd like it to be Trump...it was really Hillary Clinton and the Democrats who were vile and disgusting.
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo,
Look, I understand that you actually believe most of the idiot conspiracy fables you were fed. You need to understand that the normal people, being attached to reality, didn't fall for those conspiracy theories.
They actually PAID to have their political opponent smeared with phony dossiers. You think that equates to them being "good" people? You're amusing...
My point was that all Trump cultists lie for power.
In response, a bunch of them have told further lies.
Trump cultists, I thank you for so convincingly proving my point.
Wait, that's not what you asked. You said, "vile and disgusting". So, I gave you "vile and disgusting", did I not? Now you want to change the question. I will try to keep up.Did ANY of that undermine a US Presidential election?
Oh yes she did! Using Kremlin sourced disinformation to first try to affect the election and then in an attempt by the Obama Leftovers to overturn the election.Who was really vile and disgusting in that race? Who did sleazy and corrupt things to get the nomination and try to steal the election?
Trump. Was that some kind of trick question?
Sorry, Mamooth but as much as you'd like it to be Trump...it was really Hillary Clinton and the Democrats who were vile and disgusting.
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo,
Look, I understand that you actually believe most of the idiot conspiracy fables you were fed. You need to understand that the normal people, being attached to reality, didn't fall for those conspiracy theories.
They actually PAID to have their political opponent smeared with phony dossiers. You think that equates to them being "good" people? You're amusing...
My point was that all Trump cultists lie for power.
In response, a bunch of them have told further lies.
Trump cultists, I thank you for so convincingly proving my point.
Did Hillary pay Fusion GPS to fabricate phony dossiers on her political opponent? Yes or no?
Nor was the delay with the Ukraine, no matter how you try and frame it.You think that Ukraine is the only country where there was delays?
Both Volker and Morrison said the less than two month delay of the aid had no effect on Ukraines defensive capabilities. And the Javelin missile sale was apart form that aid.
.
Still why was it delayed you have not answered that one question
Trump has been president for 3 years and there was no previous delays or concerns so why all of the sudden he delays it by presidential order
When Rudy was globe trotting looking into Ukraine matters
Is Rudy a state official or is he Trumps private lawyer
Ask Pakistan about it, and if that's not good enough ask Lebanon if they are still waiting.
...and neither of them were tied to extortion by the president for dirt on his political foe.
Wait, that's not what you asked. You said, "vile and disgusting". So, I gave you "vile and disgusting", did I not? Now you want to change the question. I will try to keep up.Did ANY of that undermine a US Presidential election?
You don't think Trump inviting Russian assistance, while they were interfering in our elections, undermined the election?
Trump released the aid without any requirements at all, even though the requirements considered were certainly justifiable.Nor was the delay with the Ukraine, no matter how you try and frame it.You think that Ukraine is the only country where there was delays?
Both Volker and Morrison said the less than two month delay of the aid had no effect on Ukraines defensive capabilities. And the Javelin missile sale was apart form that aid.
.
Still why was it delayed you have not answered that one question
Trump has been president for 3 years and there was no previous delays or concerns so why all of the sudden he delays it by presidential order
When Rudy was globe trotting looking into Ukraine matters
Is Rudy a state official or is he Trumps private lawyer
Ask Pakistan about it, and if that's not good enough ask Lebanon if they are still waiting.
...and neither of them were tied to extortion by the president for dirt on his political foe.
