Offical Impeachment Thread

[Ame®icano]

I want my president to uncover and investigate corruption in other nations before he sends my tax dollars to them...what is it that you find troubling about that?....

Then you should have elected one who sought to have Ukraine fight against corruption rather than look into a 3 year old rumor.

Rumor? Biden, himself, admitted to it on video tape. It's out there for all to see.

Liar. Biden never admitted to corruption. He admitted to fighting corruption by getting a corrupt prosecutor fired.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie , they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

Ukraine being "the most corrupted country in the world" at the time, had half or more of their officials, including their president, corrupted.

And out of ALL those corrupted people, this ONE prosecutor was so important to be fired, and was the ONLY one that had to be fired immediately, on request of US vice-president. If you're fighting corruption, why would you stop there?

Wha the commies are expecting us to believe is that Joe got the prosecutor fired because he was not doing enough to look into the corruption of the company that was paying his son 80K a month. They really think we believe that.

Yep. Whole Ukraine is so corrupt that firing one prosecutor, who coincidentally investigates firm of my son, must be fired. The rest of those corrupted can stay and do their job. This one must go.

 

[toobfreak]

How can you charge Trump with crimes no one saw?

Bribery? Nope

Quid Pro Quo? Nope

Trump is not being legally charged with any crimes. He's being impeached. Articles of impeachment can include climes but most articles are not federal crimes. The most common articles are violation of oath of office, misuse of executive power, conduct unbecoming the office, and lying to congress.

Impeachment is a political process used to remove a president just as election is a political process for selecting a president. What this means is that all laws and regulation involving evidence and criminal court procedures do apply. The entire process is regulated by House and Senate rules and the constitution.

For example, the legal concept of hearsay applies in trials and related proceedings in court. It doesn’t apply and doesn’t make sense in the congressional impeachment inquiry, nor in any potential impeachment trial in the Senate.

Congress is not a court, and no rules of evidence apply to its activities, including impeachment. This is not a technical distinction: It’s a foundation part of the constitutional structure.

Why hearsay isn't a problem for Congress in impeachment hearings

You say mis-use of office, executive power etc, but what about the mis-use of government in the ways in which the demoncrats are using it in order to make bogus claims against the President for purely partisan political reasons ?

A power struggle between groups is exactly what's going on here, and anyone with a second grade education can see this for what it is, and for what it has been since 2016.

If anything the swamp has been paraded out, and through this farce it has been shown just how bad things can get if powerful brainwashing goes on for way to long in America. It has been educational in that regard for sure.

Exactly! The laws and the Constitution are there to protect the interests of America and Americans. They were never intended to be used as weapons to take down an adversary because you hate him or because of your lust for power.

What the Democrats have already done is open Pandora's box to a never ending cycle of "How do we use the system to take down President X?" The damage they have already caused to the 2 Party system of our government will take many years to undo.

No assfuck. Trump opened the God damn box when he tried to use government funds to bribe the President of the Ukraine for a political favor.

THAT is what opened the box,.

How do you open a box with something which as yet, you've totally failed yet to even prove? You cannot prove bribery or political motives when the the entire one side of the argument is conveniently kept safely locked away from questions or the public eye to challenge! You'd have a better chance of proving shoplifting without ever finding any store property stolen or in the possession of the defendant!

Your argument holds about as much water as Hitler claiming the Jew "opened the box" and caused their own gassing because they dared tried to flee the country to escape being put to death!!! Why are all you DemoNazis now defending the methods of Adolph Hitler?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Whole Ukraine is so corrupt that firing one prosecutor, who coincidentally investigates firm of my son, must be fired.

The main government prosecutor charged with investigating and prosecuting corruption, for fuck's sake. But you left that out, because that simple fact makes your post stoooopid.

 

[beautress]

So is this part of whatever this is now complete?
Will Republicans be able to present people who actually saw things and/or heard it from the horses mouth.

Oh, yeah, baby. Yes they will.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Sondland testified that Trump said “No quid pro quo”.


Over!

There is no corruption. This is all bullshit.

 

[beautress]

What the fuck does it matter. Nothing here is going to get him removed from office. If McConnell is stupid enough to hold hearings, he's going to get primaried. But even if he does...there is no way this happens. Not a chance in hell.

The reason it matters is because a passel of Democrat Operatives, high and low, are going to jail as a consequence of trying to coup President Trump after his election with malice aforethought. And three of them are currently household words.

 

[beautress]

Like Trump says, read the transcript.

"The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."​

So.............The President has the right to ask for cooperation of looking into corruption here are there......

Biden isn't immune to it...............Biden has a BIG MOUTH............and brags too much......joked about it..............

No law broken there............now Biden and son..........yeah that is well worth looking at.....Biden was never gonna be the Dem candidate.

The president does not have the right to break the law; and soliciting a foreign national to investigate a political rival breaks the law.

What planet are you on? Didn't watch the hearing today? Guess what. Others did. And that Sean Hannity brought an interesting video on Schiff revealed his true intentions, and his House of Cards may just become the Big House for Schiff. Oh, and the media? They willingly conspired with the DNC's talking point, just like I've been telling everyone around here. *sigh* To darn bad. Now, back to good guy Sean Hannity's words and recordings:

Tissue?

Hannity also reports that an FBI officer is under investigation for altering documents in the 2016 Russia Probe

Naughty, naughty.​

Is it only me, or you guys have the same problem, but that video is limited to 2 seconds.

It's a MSM, deep state, Clinton, DNC conspiracy.

Faun sez: "It's a MSM, deep state, Clinton, DNC conspiracy."​

So you're looking to join the Walk Away Movement, are ya doll?

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[beautress]

Jim Jordan speaks about this unfair process, etc.

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[Ame®icano]

Whole Ukraine is so corrupt that firing one prosecutor, who coincidentally investigates firm of my son, must be fired.

The main government prosecutor charged with investigating and prosecuting corruption, for fuck's sake. But you left that out, because that simple fact makes your post stoooopid.

What that "main government prosecutor" was investigating at the time?

 

[RealDave]

How can you charge Trump with crimes no one saw?

Bribery? Nope

Quid Pro Quo? Nope

Trump is not being legally charged with any crimes. He's being impeached. Articles of impeachment can include climes but most articles are not federal crimes. The most common articles are violation of oath of office, misuse of executive power, conduct unbecoming the office, and lying to congress.

Impeachment is a political process used to remove a president just as election is a political process for selecting a president. What this means is that all laws and regulation involving evidence and criminal court procedures do apply. The entire process is regulated by House and Senate rules and the constitution.

For example, the legal concept of hearsay applies in trials and related proceedings in court. It doesn’t apply and doesn’t make sense in the congressional impeachment inquiry, nor in any potential impeachment trial in the Senate.

Congress is not a court, and no rules of evidence apply to its activities, including impeachment. This is not a technical distinction: It’s a foundation part of the constitutional structure.

Why hearsay isn't a problem for Congress in impeachment hearings

You say mis-use of office, executive power etc, but what about the mis-use of government in the ways in which the demoncrats are using it in order to make bogus claims against the President for purely partisan political reasons ?

A power struggle between groups is exactly what's going on here, and anyone with a second grade education can see this for what it is, and for what it has been since 2016.

If anything the swamp has been paraded out, and through this farce it has been shown just how bad things can get if powerful brainwashing goes on for way to long in America. It has been educational in that regard for sure.

Exactly! The laws and the Constitution are there to protect the interests of America and Americans. They were never intended to be used as weapons to take down an adversary because you hate him or because of your lust for power.

What the Democrats have already done is open Pandora's box to a never ending cycle of "How do we use the system to take down President X?" The damage they have already caused to the 2 Party system of our government will take many years to undo.

No assfuck. Trump opened the God damn box when he tried to use government funds to bribe the President of the Ukraine for a political favor.

THAT is what opened the box,.

How do you open a box with something which as yet, you've totally failed yet to even prove? You cannot prove bribery or political motives when the the entire one side of the argument is conveniently kept safely locked away from questions or the public eye to challenge! You'd have a better chance of proving shoplifting without ever finding any store property stolen or in the possession of the defendant!

Your argument holds about as much water as Hitler claiming the Jew "opened the box" and caused their own gassing because they dared tried to flee the country to escape being put to death!!! Why are all you DemoNazis now defending the methods of Adolph Hitler?

I understand that you feeble minded fucks must protect Drumpf.

But to claim there was no quid pro quo at this point, is just plain retarded.

 

[RealDave]

Jim Jordan speaks about this unfair process, etc.

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What is unfair?

 

[flack]

Trump is not being legally charged with any crimes. He's being impeached. Articles of impeachment can include climes but most articles are not federal crimes. The most common articles are violation of oath of office, misuse of executive power, conduct unbecoming the office, and lying to congress.

Impeachment is a political process used to remove a president just as election is a political process for selecting a president. What this means is that all laws and regulation involving evidence and criminal court procedures do apply. The entire process is regulated by House and Senate rules and the constitution.

For example, the legal concept of hearsay applies in trials and related proceedings in court. It doesn’t apply and doesn’t make sense in the congressional impeachment inquiry, nor in any potential impeachment trial in the Senate.

Congress is not a court, and no rules of evidence apply to its activities, including impeachment. This is not a technical distinction: It’s a foundation part of the constitutional structure.

Why hearsay isn't a problem for Congress in impeachment hearings

You say mis-use of office, executive power etc, but what about the mis-use of government in the ways in which the demoncrats are using it in order to make bogus claims against the President for purely partisan political reasons ?

A power struggle between groups is exactly what's going on here, and anyone with a second grade education can see this for what it is, and for what it has been since 2016.

If anything the swamp has been paraded out, and through this farce it has been shown just how bad things can get if powerful brainwashing goes on for way to long in America. It has been educational in that regard for sure.

Exactly! The laws and the Constitution are there to protect the interests of America and Americans. They were never intended to be used as weapons to take down an adversary because you hate him or because of your lust for power.

What the Democrats have already done is open Pandora's box to a never ending cycle of "How do we use the system to take down President X?" The damage they have already caused to the 2 Party system of our government will take many years to undo.

No assfuck. Trump opened the God damn box when he tried to use government funds to bribe the President of the Ukraine for a political favor.

THAT is what opened the box,.

How do you open a box with something which as yet, you've totally failed yet to even prove? You cannot prove bribery or political motives when the the entire one side of the argument is conveniently kept safely locked away from questions or the public eye to challenge! You'd have a better chance of proving shoplifting without ever finding any store property stolen or in the possession of the defendant!

Your argument holds about as much water as Hitler claiming the Jew "opened the box" and caused their own gassing because they dared tried to flee the country to escape being put to death!!! Why are all you DemoNazis now defending the methods of Adolph Hitler?

I understand that you feeble minded fucks must protect Drumpf.

But to claim there was no quid pro quo at this point, is just plain retarded.

Shadows in the dark.

 

[RealDave]

Sondland testified that Trump said “No quid pro quo”.


Over!

There is no corruption. This is all bullshit.

In September you God damn stupid fuck. After he knew he was caught.

 

[ColonelAngus]

No quid pro quo.

All bullshit.

Win at the polls, lefty losers.

Such pathetic losers.

 

[RealDave]

Schiff is Himler.

Absolutely Gestapo tactics by the Democrats

Of course. They are doing everything possible not to get at the facts, but to assure their own desired outcome.

In the Dark Ages, they used to drown witches first to test their innocence. If they drowned, then they weren't a witch.

A moron can see what is going on. Anyone defending these impeachment "investigations" as they are going is simply proving their own total political bias.

This nation will never stand for it.

I have news, This nation will LOT stand for a piece of shit like Donald Trump breaking laws trying to cheat (again) to win an election.

How dare you protect this action. You are no American. You want Trump to piss on the Constitution. Fuck off Trump Boy.

 

[RealDave]

No quid pro quo.

All bullshit.

Win at the polls, lefty losers.

Such pathetic losers.

My God, Trump clearly wanted that announcement.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If house impeaches, I can’t wait to see the whistle blower, Hunter Biden, and Schiff cross examined.

 

[toobfreak]

But to claim there was no quid pro quo at this point, is just plain retarded.

You would be the expert on retardation here. Of course you know of so many trials where a case has been proven by only hearing from those standing to benefit from a guilty verdict while not allowing the defendant to present any of his own defense? Were you in on part of Nuremberg, Nazi?

 

[WEATHER53]

If house impeaches, I can’t wait to see the whistle blower, Hunter Biden, and Schiff cross examined.

They don’t want that and all this thing has been is a fake smear attempt.

 

[toobfreak]

I have news, This nation will LOT stand for a piece of shit

It stood for Obama and Hitlery.

trying to cheat (again) to win an election.

When was the first time? You mean no one could have beaten Hitlery withjout cheating because you thought your fix was in?

How dare you protect this action. You are no American. You want Trump to piss on the Constitution. Fuck off Trump Boy.

Getting your hair mussed again, Nazi? Trump is full of piss and has not even begun finishing pissing all over you!