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Officer shot and killed in Milwaukee

It really doesn't matter. It's too easy to kill a cop when you have a gun regardless.

Having a gun doesn't necessarily mean you're going to kill anyone. The majority of law-enforcement officers are killed by accidents, not firearms. There are federal, state, and local laws which were enacted to prevent criminals from accessing firearms. Are you saying that laws are ineffective? If so, how would passing redundant laws be effective?
But many are killed by firearms, something that is very rare when there is strong gun control.

Yes our gun laws are extremely weak. Even angry children can get guns for murder.

Ok then, so fess up: This thread wasn't really about respecting a fallen officer, it was about your own hoplophobic irrational fear of weapons, right?

Why didn't you just say that to start with?
This is about helping our law enforcement. Some of us actually care.

How is wanting to disarm citizens "helping" law-enforcement? You mean you actually want to increase the burden on them and their workload?

You do know that in a society full of unarmed and helpless citizens, armed criminals will pretty much do what they want to, right?
You seem confused. The UK has much fewer guns than us and their homicide rate is 1/4 of ours. Their police are also rarely shot and killed. Many countries with far fewer guns have much lower homicide rates. Your claim has no backing.
 
Most are very good people. They are given an impossible job when the country is littered with guns.
My life has been very littered with guns yet I don't use them to shoot humans...peanut cans full of water yes...
And you might be just one domestic dispute away from killing a cop.

Moonglow? "One domestic abuse away from killing a cop"?

I don't think so. :laughing0301:

Hell, Moonglow couldn't kill a crab louse.
You should see the mounds of dead flies...
Off topic but my son got me a Bug A Salt gun for X-mas. I can hardly wait for fly season.

Check out www.bugasalt.com. They even have a TV commercial.
 
How do you know?
I watched. He didn't offer anything to help officers from being shot and killed. Did you not watch?


The largest single factor determining a criminal outcome, is illegitimacy.


If Trump touched on that, you libs would call him racist, and spend the rest of eternity fighting anything that might be done to address it.
We've been down that road. Other countries have more illegitimacy and their cops aren't being shot regularly. Your claim is proven false.


That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
 
Compared to France:
French police are targeted but rarely killed
In 2015, the year for which the most recent French government data are available, six police officers were killed in the line of duty, according to an October 2016 report by the National Institute of Higher Studies of Security and Justice. In 2014, 11 officers were killed, and the total for the year before that was 10. The numbers dating to 2010 are slightly lower.

We need to help our officers.

We are not France. We will never be France, no matter what, no matter how. If you think you'd feel "safer" in France from all the evil guns people like myself carry on a daily basis, then don't let the screen door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

I'd much rather stay here and take my chances. At least I have the tool, training, and determination to be a survivor.
 
My life has been very littered with guns yet I don't use them to shoot humans...peanut cans full of water yes...
And you might be just one domestic dispute away from killing a cop.

Moonglow? "One domestic abuse away from killing a cop"?

I don't think so. :laughing0301:

Hell, Moonglow couldn't kill a crab louse.
You should see the mounds of dead flies...
Off topic but my son got me a Bug A Salt gun for X-mas. I can hardly wait for fly season.

Check out www.bugasalt.com. They even have a TV commercial.

Go big or go home. :laughing0301:

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I watched. He didn't offer anything to help officers from being shot and killed. Did you not watch?


The largest single factor determining a criminal outcome, is illegitimacy.


If Trump touched on that, you libs would call him racist, and spend the rest of eternity fighting anything that might be done to address it.
We've been down that road. Other countries have more illegitimacy and their cops aren't being shot regularly. Your claim is proven false.


That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
Sorry but I have shown you in the past that other countries have much more illegitimacy. Your claims have no merit.
 
Compared to France:
French police are targeted but rarely killed
In 2015, the year for which the most recent French government data are available, six police officers were killed in the line of duty, according to an October 2016 report by the National Institute of Higher Studies of Security and Justice. In 2014, 11 officers were killed, and the total for the year before that was 10. The numbers dating to 2010 are slightly lower.

We need to help our officers.

We are not France. We will never be France, no matter what, no matter how. If you think you'd feel "safer" in France from all the evil guns people like myself carry on a daily basis, then don't let the screen door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

I'd much rather stay here and take my chances. At least I have the tool, training, and determination to be a survivor.
I'd much rather our law enforcement not be killed regularly. They too have the tool and lots of training btw.
 
The largest single factor determining a criminal outcome, is illegitimacy.


If Trump touched on that, you libs would call him racist, and spend the rest of eternity fighting anything that might be done to address it.
We've been down that road. Other countries have more illegitimacy and their cops aren't being shot regularly. Your claim is proven false.


That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
Sorry but I have shown you in the past that other countries have much more illegitimacy. Your claims have no merit.

Ameriphobia: "We were never that great of a country to start with."
 
Compared to France:
French police are targeted but rarely killed
In 2015, the year for which the most recent French government data are available, six police officers were killed in the line of duty, according to an October 2016 report by the National Institute of Higher Studies of Security and Justice. In 2014, 11 officers were killed, and the total for the year before that was 10. The numbers dating to 2010 are slightly lower.

We need to help our officers.

We are not France. We will never be France, no matter what, no matter how. If you think you'd feel "safer" in France from all the evil guns people like myself carry on a daily basis, then don't let the screen door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

I'd much rather stay here and take my chances. At least I have the tool, training, and determination to be a survivor.
I'd much rather our law enforcement not be killed regularly. They too have the tool and lots of training btw.

So you agree that local law-enforcement agencies should be given surplus military equipment, like night-vision, MRAP vehicles, military assault weapons, and such?
 
The largest single factor determining a criminal outcome, is illegitimacy.


If Trump touched on that, you libs would call him racist, and spend the rest of eternity fighting anything that might be done to address it.
We've been down that road. Other countries have more illegitimacy and their cops aren't being shot regularly. Your claim is proven false.


That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
Sorry but I have shown you in the past that other countries have much more illegitimacy. Your claims have no merit.

With the world situation as it is today you seem to want to control all guns or at most, to confiscate them. Bad idea, but leftards and socialists lack foresight. They lack the foresight to see that in 5 years we would be speaking Russian and Chinese and praying toward Mecca 5 times a day. Believe it or not.
 
Another law enforcement officer shot and killed. Last year was a bad year and this year is off to a really bad start. Law enforcement being shot and killed is really rare in countries with strong gun control. We need stronger laws.

Milwaukee police mourning for third time in less than a year after officer shot and killed Wednesday

The Milwaukee Police Department is in mourning for the third time in less than a year after an officer was shot and killed Wednesday morning.

"We are here today to share the tragic news that one of Milwaukee's police officers was killed in the line of duty this morning while executing a search warrant," Mayor Tom Barrett said.
What constitutes “strong gun control”?
 
Police more likely to be killed on duty in states with high gun ownership

Camden and Newark, New Jersey, are perceived as two of the most violent cities in the nation, yet New Jersey's police officers are among the least likely to get shot on the job. Montana, with its serene landscapes and national parks, has among the highest homicide rates for law enforcement officers. Why?

Across all 50 states and the District of Columbia, homicides of police officers are linked to the statewide level of gun ownership, according to a new study published in the American Journal of Public Health. The study found that police officers serving in states with high private gun ownership are more than three times more likely to be killed on the job than those on the job in states with the lowest gun ownership.
 
We've been down that road. Other countries have more illegitimacy and their cops aren't being shot regularly. Your claim is proven false.


That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
Sorry but I have shown you in the past that other countries have much more illegitimacy. Your claims have no merit.

With the world situation as it is today you seem to want to control all guns or at most, to confiscate them. Bad idea, but leftards and socialists lack foresight. They lack the foresight to see that in 5 years we would be speaking Russian and Chinese and praying toward Mecca 5 times a day. Believe it or not.

An interesting observation is that nobody in the Democrat Party is pushing gun-control.

What happened to that all of a sudden? I know they'll eventually bring it back up, but why the collective silence now?
 
Another law enforcement officer shot and killed. Last year was a bad year and this year is off to a really bad start. Law enforcement being shot and killed is really rare in countries with strong gun control. We need stronger laws.

Milwaukee police mourning for third time in less than a year after officer shot and killed Wednesday

The Milwaukee Police Department is in mourning for the third time in less than a year after an officer was shot and killed Wednesday morning.

"We are here today to share the tragic news that one of Milwaukee's police officers was killed in the line of duty this morning while executing a search warrant," Mayor Tom Barrett said.
What constitutes “strong gun control”?
Laws like all gun purchases requiring a background check. It is very easy to get a gun here.
 
That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
Sorry but I have shown you in the past that other countries have much more illegitimacy. Your claims have no merit.

With the world situation as it is today you seem to want to control all guns or at most, to confiscate them. Bad idea, but leftards and socialists lack foresight. They lack the foresight to see that in 5 years we would be speaking Russian and Chinese and praying toward Mecca 5 times a day. Believe it or not.

An interesting observation is that nobody in the Democrat Party is pushing gun-control.

What happened to that all of a sudden? I know they'll eventually bring it back up, but why the collective silence now?
They have plans for background checks. I think the wall silliness is slowing things down.
 
Trump brought a brave officer who had been shot to the state of the union. He didn't offer any help for him.

How do you know?
I watched. He didn't offer anything to help officers from being shot and killed. Did you not watch?

My point is you don’t know what has been discussed behind the scenes
That doesn't change that he mentioned nothing, which is what I said.
 
Trump brought a brave officer who had been shot to the state of the union. He didn't offer any help for him.

How do you know?
I watched. He didn't offer anything to help officers from being shot and killed. Did you not watch?

My point is you don’t know what has been discussed behind the scenes
That doesn't change that he mentioned nothing, which is what I said.

No, you said he didn’t offer him any help. As I said, you don’t know that.
 
Trump brought a brave officer who had been shot to the state of the union. He didn't offer any help for him.

How do you know?
I watched. He didn't offer anything to help officers from being shot and killed. Did you not watch?

My point is you don’t know what has been discussed behind the scenes
That doesn't change that he mentioned nothing, which is what I said.

No, you said he didn’t offer him any help. As I said, you don’t know that.
He didn't.
 
That very homogeneous societies don't all react the same way ours does, does not change the facts about how illegitimacy causes problems in our much different society.
Your argument just gets weaker....


YOur inability to address the point I made is one thing. YOur dishonesty about that, and your attempt to distract from that, is another.
Sorry but I have shown you in the past that other countries have much more illegitimacy. Your claims have no merit.

With the world situation as it is today you seem to want to control all guns or at most, to confiscate them. Bad idea, but leftards and socialists lack foresight. They lack the foresight to see that in 5 years we would be speaking Russian and Chinese and praying toward Mecca 5 times a day. Believe it or not.

An interesting observation is that nobody in the Democrat Party is pushing gun-control.

What happened to that all of a sudden? I know they'll eventually bring it back up, but why the collective silence now?

This is an NRA video I got this evening about Cory Booker wanting to disarm us.

Spartacus Has Officially Entered the Disarmament Primary | NRATV
 

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