Oh, yes, Mr. Trump, there IS "fake news" out there....

[miketx]

Who is it that started the meme of fake news?

Having this shit boomerang on your asses sucks, don't it?

That is the point of my thread

Democrats were being bombarded with fake news and those stories were debunked with actual facts. Snopes is full of it

Trump has taken the "Fake News" claim and removed the requirement where you actually have to prove it is fake

I finally agree with you. Snopes is full of it. Just like you.

Snopes sources all of their claims

I challenge you to refute any of their sources

Fake sources. Just like you.

 

[NoNukes]

Well, no. It all comes down to whether there are facts to back up any claims. Trump and his supporters don't have any of those.

Where are the "facts" to back up the allegations against Flynn? Where are the facts to backup the story about Trump with prostitutes in Russia? Where are the facts that support the accusations of the bimbos who claimed Trump assaulted them?

You already won the award for Douche Bag of the Month. Why are you still competing for it?

FOR FUCKS SAKE, GIVE IT UP.

I'll never quit pointing out that all you snowflakes are a bunch of lying douche bags.

And you are an idiot. So where are we now?

 

[BULLDOG]

Uh, what I said in the previous post is that the press has largely ignored the assault accusations for months. And that's not contradicted by what I said in the subsequent post.

Please provide substantive proof that "trust in the media is at an all time low".

You're really terrible at this, aren't you?

The press has been "ignoring" them only because they were all demonstrated to be entirely bogus.

LMAO, okay, so now you contradict yourself. The press is NOT repeating lies, so the press is therefore honest.

Once again, you're TERRIBLE at this. Kellyanne ConJob lies better than you.

Where did I say the press has continued to use them? It gave up after it because obvious they were making fools of themselves. However, at the time they were in the news for weeks, almost up until the election.

You mean like that Comey scam?

What "scam" is that?

You are well aware of Comey releasing misleading information just before the election in conflict with their policy.

 

[nat4900]

The majority of Americans figured out some time ago that the mainstream news media cannot be trusted to report the whole truth and nothing but the truth! That's why their approval rate is 20% and alternative news sources exist!

Well, you better get that "majority of Americans" to step up, polls have the Trumpster at less than 40% approval...LOL

 

[BULLDOG]

The majority of Americans figured out some time ago that the mainstream news media cannot be trusted to report the whole truth and nothing but the truth! That's why their approval rate is 20% and alternative news sources exist!

Well, you better get that "majority of Americans" to step up, polls have the Trumpster at less than 40% approval...LOL

That's the Devos effect kicking in already. 40% is now the majority.

 

[nat4900]

AP saying trump was calling NG for deportations
Fake news about trump getting a trademark in china because he supported one china policy

Never even heard of these two SHATTERING news events........Go take a nap after having another drink.

 

[TNHarley]

AP saying trump was calling NG for deportations
Fake news about trump getting a trademark in china because he supported one china policy

Never even heard of these two SHATTERING news events........Go take a nap after having another drink.

Lol I bet you havent

 

[jknowgood]

Obama was asked by a woman that her grandma needed a hip replacement to get her active again. Obama said in some circumstances maybe it would be better to just give her a pain pill. So she could live out her life not in pain.

That is still anecdote.

So your good with one of your loved ones not get something that would make their life better? Instead they get the cheaper pain pill till they die?

My wife had a hip replacement, so did my mother
The doctor at the time told her there are many alternatives available and that hip replacement is a last resort. Many people get by with pills, therapy and injections without going through hip replacement

If the doctor recommends hip replacement but the insurance company says a pain pill will do. Is what they were talking about.

Its not what Obama said....he said that "In some circumstances, maybe it would be better to give her a pain pill"

What my wife was told when she first consulted the surgeon was that many people get by with occasional injections, anti-inflammatory drugs, weight loss combined with physical therapy. depends on the case

The interaction between insurance companies and doctors as to medical necessity has been going on for decades. Obama care did nothing to change that

You forgot about the age part when he stated she lived her life.

 

[usmbguest5318]

There is fake news everywhere. Trump lies almost as much as the MSM.
He won the battle, who will end up winning the war?

There's a huge difference between the two:

• When the media make an inaccurate statement, they issue a correction in the same place and with similar "loudness" as was the original mistake; thus they don't pretend that they were not wrong the first time round. That's called "making an honest mistake." It happens to everyone and everyone knows it. We see the error and the correction and we move forward.
• When Trump makes an inaccurate statement, he doubles down on or amplifies it. That makes his inaccurate statements lies rather than merely mistakes.

One can be wrong all day long as long as one is willing to and does indeed take responsibility for it. People probably won't want to keep listening to one who often inaccurately presents the facts and details, but they'll at least give one credit for being honest.

 

[nat4900]

There's a huge difference between the two:

• When the media make an inaccurate statement, they issue a correction in the same place and with similar "loudness" as was the original mistake; thus they don't pretend that they were not wrong the first time round. That's called "making an honest mistake." It happens to everyone and everyone knows it. We see the error and the correction and we move forward.
• When Trump makes an inaccurate statement, he doubles down on or amplifies it. That makes his inaccurate statements lies rather than merely mistakes.

Something that you will NEVER, EVER hear from the Trumpster, "I stand corrected.".......
Sick narcissists would never admit to mistakes.

 

[TNHarley]

There is fake news everywhere. Trump lies almost as much as the MSM.
He won the battle, who will end up winning the war?

There's a huge difference between the two:

• When the media make an inaccurate statement, they issue a correction in the same place and with similar "loudness" as was the original mistake; thus they don't pretend that they were not wrong the first time round. That's called "making an honest mistake." It happens to everyone and everyone knows it. We see the error and the correction and we move forward.
• When Trump makes an inaccurate statement, he doubles down on or amplifies it. That makes his inaccurate statements lies rather than merely mistakes.

One can be wrong all day long as long as one is willing to and does indeed take responsibility for it. People probably won't want to keep listening to one who often inaccurately presents the facts and details, but they'll at least give one credit for being honest.

Oh bullshit. They do it on purpose and you know it.
Hell, CNN got caught actually editing words into Trumps mouth!

 

[TNHarley]

There's a huge difference between the two:

• When the media make an inaccurate statement, they issue a correction in the same place and with similar "loudness" as was the original mistake; thus they don't pretend that they were not wrong the first time round. That's called "making an honest mistake." It happens to everyone and everyone knows it. We see the error and the correction and we move forward.
• When Trump makes an inaccurate statement, he doubles down on or amplifies it. That makes his inaccurate statements lies rather than merely mistakes.

Something that you will NEVER, EVER hear from the Trumpster, "I stand corrected.".......
Sick narcissists would never admit to mistakes.

Says the person that just laughs off her fake news and debunked bullshit? Real rich.

 

[nat4900]

ays the person that just laughs off her fake news and debunked bullshit? Real rich.

Actually, I often laugh at the "fake news" that spews out of the orange clown.....Like he could have won the popular vote if 5-6 MILLION illegals had not voted.....or that he got the most EC votes since God.........
and, of course, that he has a HC plan that would cover EVERYBODY and be cheaper and better....

See, I love fake news......LOL

 

[usmbguest5318]

CNN got caught actually editing words into Trumps mouth!

Can you point me to a reference on that, please?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Who is it that started the meme of fake news?

Having this shit boomerang on your asses sucks, don't it?

That is the point of my thread

Democrats were being bombarded with fake news and those stories were debunked with actual facts. Snopes is full of it

Trump has taken the "Fake News" claim and removed the requirement where you actually have to prove it is fake

I believe it comes down to certain news groups making assumptions on a personal discussion between General Flint and a Russian ambassador, and they don't have ANY facts to base their arguments on. Where are those actual sources that are named, that was involved in the dialogue between this one on one discussion? How is speculation and sensationalized ideological generated "drama" actual journalism? The media was actually challenged by their chief editor during the Nixon Administration to be sure the information they received was accurate and can be backed with a "reliable source". You can be sure, if their information did not hold up or was inaccurate, they would surely hear about it. This is what is considered good old fashioned journalism. It's time the news media was subject to the same accountability, scrutiny, and credibility questions it once held as a standard, as credibility is evidently in short supply when you consider how one sided most media outlets project themselves.

The press reported the contact. The Trump administration was aware of it and declined to divulge it until the story appeared in the press. In addition, Trump aids were in contact with Russian representatives during the campaign....at a time leaks were being provided by Russia to support Trump

That is the duty of the press....investigate stories as they happen

Trump has yet to provide a satisfactory explanation other than to berate the press and call them names

The duty of the press is to report government leaks as they happen and who it involves, as well as credible sources who can back that up. It is their obligation to find and report facts as they happen through credible reported source. Then, follow up on those leads based on the information that they find, presenting the news as it becomes known. Now what the press DOES have a strong habit of doing, is drawing their own conclusions based on speculation and divulging their "opinion", THEN hope that the evidence would eventually lead to those conclusions they believe to be true without acting upon sufficient evidence.

There's also nothing really found in the first amendment that states the press can not have their facts and information questioned, they aren't SO protected and beyond reproach as to have their credibility come into question behind how they come to their conclusions.. or even questioning the integrity and information on the source. The ability to back up your conclusions on solid resources is what makes for good journalism, when we often find biased national inquirer kind of reporting being broadcasted instead.

 

[usmbguest5318]

There is fake news everywhere. Trump lies almost as much as the MSM.
He won the battle, who will end up winning the war?

There's a huge difference between the two:

• When the media make an inaccurate statement, they issue a correction in the same place and with similar "loudness" as was the original mistake; thus they don't pretend that they were not wrong the first time round. That's called "making an honest mistake." It happens to everyone and everyone knows it. We see the error and the correction and we move forward.
• When Trump makes an inaccurate statement, he doubles down on or amplifies it. That makes his inaccurate statements lies rather than merely mistakes.

One can be wrong all day long as long as one is willing to and does indeed take responsibility for it. People probably won't want to keep listening to one who often inaccurately presents the facts and details, but they'll at least give one credit for being honest.

Oh bullshit. They do it on purpose and you know it.
Hell, CNN got caught actually editing words into Trumps mouth!

They do it on purpose and you know it.

Even were I to suspect it, I'm in position to demonstrate credibly that level of intent. Are you? If so, by all means, do tell. I can on the other hand facilely observe the happenstance of error and amends, and in thus seeing accord equitably, or as warranted not, the benefit of the doubt on the matter of intent.

 

[TNHarley]

CNN got caught actually editing words into Trumps mouth!

Can you point me to a reference on that, please?

CNN Gets Busted for Making Trump Look Racist By Inserting Word He Never Said Into Quote
Could have used better terminology when describing that.

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

Who is it that started the meme of fake news?

Having this shit boomerang on your asses sucks, don't it?

That is the point of my thread

Democrats were being bombarded with fake news and those stories were debunked with actual facts. Snopes is full of it

Trump has taken the "Fake News" claim and removed the requirement where you actually have to prove it is fake

I believe it comes down to certain news groups making assumptions on a personal discussion between General Flint and a Russian ambassador, and they don't have ANY facts to base their arguments on. Where are those actual sources that are named, that was involved in the dialogue between this one on one discussion? How is speculation and sensationalized ideological generated "drama" actual journalism? The media was actually challenged by their chief editor during the Nixon Administration to be sure the information they received was accurate and can be backed with a "reliable source". You can be sure, if their information did not hold up or was inaccurate, they would surely hear about it. This is what is considered good old fashioned journalism. It's time the news media was subject to the same accountability, scrutiny, and credibility questions it once held as a standard, as credibility is evidently in short supply when you consider how one sided most media outlets project themselves.

The press reported the contact. The Trump administration was aware of it and declined to divulge it until the story appeared in the press. In addition, Trump aids were in contact with Russian representatives during the campaign....at a time leaks were being provided by Russia to support Trump

That is the duty of the press....investigate stories as they happen

Trump has yet to provide a satisfactory explanation other than to berate the press and call them names

The duty of the press is to report government leaks as they happen and who it involves, as well as credible sources who can back that up. It is their obligation to find and report facts as they happen through credible reported source. Then, follow up on those leads based on the information that they find, presenting the news as it becomes known. Now what the press DOES have a strong habit of doing, is drawing their own conclusions based on speculation and divulging their "opinion", THEN hope that the evidence would eventually lead to those conclusions they believe to be true without acting upon sufficient evidence.

There's also nothing really found in the first amendment that states the press can not have their facts and information questioned, they aren't SO protected and beyond reproach as to have their credibility come into question behind how they come to their conclusions.. or even questioning the integrity and information on the source. The ability to back up your conclusions on solid resources is what makes for good journalism, when we often find biased national inquirer kind of reporting being broadcasted instead.

Yes, the news media is often used to facilitate the dissemination of whatever leaks people in government want them to hear.

 

[Camp]

Oh give it up left wingers! How many fake news stories have been busted on this board alone.

Here's your big chance to be labeled a loyal Trumpster....

Cite 2 or 3 "fake news" stories that you idiots have busted........Go on, call Sean Hannity for help.

AP saying trump was calling NG for deportations
Fake news about trump getting a trademark in china because he supported one china policy
Just this week..

Neither one of those is fake news.

 

[TNHarley]

Oh give it up left wingers! How many fake news stories have been busted on this board alone.

Here's your big chance to be labeled a loyal Trumpster....

Cite 2 or 3 "fake news" stories that you idiots have busted........Go on, call Sean Hannity for help.

AP saying trump was calling NG for deportations
Fake news about trump getting a trademark in china because he supported one china policy
Just this week..

Neither one of those is fake news.

It is if you go by the definition of fake.