OK.....Lets keep the Confederate Statues

[flacaltenn]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Probably should outlaw the Dem party also. Based on the history of who started it.. Dontchathink??

UnivVa located in Charlottesville, founded by a Slave owner. Washington and Lee Univ has Lee buried in the center of ancient colonades. WHY? Because Lee spent MOST of his life up North. At West Point and in Engineering schools. And AFTER the war --- took the reins of Washington Univ. in Virginia. His role in the war was NOT as a fan of the the Succession or necessarily of plantation slavery. Arlington Cemetery is HIS property -- given to the country.

You think it's the SOUTH that can't over the Civil War. We have.. It's YOU that's still fighting it..

It is the Republicans (plus the Nazis, klan and skinheads) who are defending those statues

Hell no.. I'm a Libertarian. I believe in TOLERANCE not using the power of the state to Purge history. That's what the govt morons that started and promoted this confrontation wanted. They wanted the Deep Fried Cracker Losers to come to town to give folks that impression.

You still got 40% or so of the Dem heritage down here that you constantly MOCK and ridicule when you go after whipping the South. LOTS of support for keeping that history intact. You ever poll a field full of Civil War re-enactors and ASCERTAIN that ALL the Grey ones are Repubs???

Quit serving up this Yankee centered nonsense. Ya hear??

 

[HappyJoy]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Probably should outlaw the Dem party also. Based on the history of who started it.. Dontchathink??

UnivVa located in Charlottesville, founded by a Slave owner. Washington and Lee Univ has Lee buried in the center of ancient colonades. WHY? Because Lee spent MOST of his life up North. At West Point and in Engineering schools. And AFTER the war --- took the reins of Washington Univ. in Virginia. His role in the war was NOT as a fan of the the Succession or necessarily of plantation slavery. Arlington Cemetery is HIS property -- given to the country.

You think it's the SOUTH that can't over the Civil War. We have.. It's YOU that's still fighting it..

Washington and Lee University is a perfect place to send those statues.

Why is that? You think they are still the enemy at Washington and Lee College?

It's YOU that wants to re-fight that war.. Not us...

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

 

[flacaltenn]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Probably should outlaw the Dem party also. Based on the history of who started it.. Dontchathink??

UnivVa located in Charlottesville, founded by a Slave owner. Washington and Lee Univ has Lee buried in the center of ancient colonades. WHY? Because Lee spent MOST of his life up North. At West Point and in Engineering schools. And AFTER the war --- took the reins of Washington Univ. in Virginia. His role in the war was NOT as a fan of the the Succession or necessarily of plantation slavery. Arlington Cemetery is HIS property -- given to the country.

You think it's the SOUTH that can't over the Civil War. We have.. It's YOU that's still fighting it..

Washington and Lee University is a perfect place to send those statues.

Why is that? You think they are still the enemy at Washington and Lee College?

It's YOU that wants to re-fight that war.. Not us...

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

Of all the interests involved, it's EXACTLY Govt that should keep the cooler head and protect the heritage and history of the place they govern. And keep it out of the hands of the extreme partisans on EITHER side.

THat history and heritage is VALUABLE to their identity and their economy in the case of Civil War landmarks and historical sites.

 

[BlueGin]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

There are many statutes that depict the events and people who were enslaved. Some idiots might find them offensive. Does that mean they should be torn down?

Or maybe just tear down the statues you don't like? I would specifically like to know how you think this should work.

We are talking about publicaly honoring a nation built on slavery

Communities setting aside their most prominent sites to honor a nation that lasted four years and killed 600,000 people just so they could enslave others

Move them somewhere else and put them in proper prospective

I really don't think a bunch of morons who didn't bother to learn the back ground of Robert E Lee need to be lecturing others on " perspective".

Lee had a choice

Defend his country or defend a country dedicated to preserving slavery

He chose the latter

He was defending a states right to secede.

Much like California is threatening these days...while liberals applaud.

 

[HappyJoy]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Probably should outlaw the Dem party also. Based on the history of who started it.. Dontchathink??

UnivVa located in Charlottesville, founded by a Slave owner. Washington and Lee Univ has Lee buried in the center of ancient colonades. WHY? Because Lee spent MOST of his life up North. At West Point and in Engineering schools. And AFTER the war --- took the reins of Washington Univ. in Virginia. His role in the war was NOT as a fan of the the Succession or necessarily of plantation slavery. Arlington Cemetery is HIS property -- given to the country.

You think it's the SOUTH that can't over the Civil War. We have.. It's YOU that's still fighting it..

Washington and Lee University is a perfect place to send those statues.

Why is that? You think they are still the enemy at Washington and Lee College?

It's YOU that wants to re-fight that war.. Not us...

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

Of all the interests involved, it's EXACTLY Govt that should keep the cooler head and protect the heritage and history of the place they govern. And keep it out of the hands of the extreme partisans on EITHER side.

THat history and heritage is VALUABLE to their identity and their economy in the case of Civil War landmarks and historical sites.

Nice pivot, didn't even bother to consider your post that I quoted was highly uncalled for.

The monuments don't represent history, they represent celebrating the confederacy and ignoring the realty of their crimes.

 

[flacaltenn]

Probably should outlaw the Dem party also. Based on the history of who started it.. Dontchathink??

UnivVa located in Charlottesville, founded by a Slave owner. Washington and Lee Univ has Lee buried in the center of ancient colonades. WHY? Because Lee spent MOST of his life up North. At West Point and in Engineering schools. And AFTER the war --- took the reins of Washington Univ. in Virginia. His role in the war was NOT as a fan of the the Succession or necessarily of plantation slavery. Arlington Cemetery is HIS property -- given to the country.

You think it's the SOUTH that can't over the Civil War. We have.. It's YOU that's still fighting it..

Washington and Lee University is a perfect place to send those statues.

Why is that? You think they are still the enemy at Washington and Lee College?

It's YOU that wants to re-fight that war.. Not us...

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

Of all the interests involved, it's EXACTLY Govt that should keep the cooler head and protect the heritage and history of the place they govern. And keep it out of the hands of the extreme partisans on EITHER side.

THat history and heritage is VALUABLE to their identity and their economy in the case of Civil War landmarks and historical sites.

Nice pivot, didn't even bother to consider your post that I quoted was highly uncalled for.

The monuments don't represent history, they represent celebrating the confederacy and ignoring the realty of their crimes.

They celebrate the sacrifice of the CONFLICT. To remind us of the COST of conflict.

I worked in Keil Germany for extended periods of time. The Germans have purged a lot of that history. But in Keil -- there is a German Naval memorial built similar to an old lighthouse. It has art depictions of the walls of EVERY German military vessel lost in the war.

I'm a raised Jew. And i teared up both times I went there. When you see the 4 stories of ships and men and lives lost -- you see the REALITY of that conflict. About 8 ft tall. 360 degrees around u of just U-Boats lost. With the dates and number of lives lost. They've probably bulldozed that by now.. But it would be a HUGE mistake to just PURGE it as you folks want to do...

 

[MarcATL]

random statues .. meh

removing historical monuments depicting people/events that have meaning to the country and remind future generations who we once were ? HELL NO !

PC/POLITICAL OPINIONS BE DAMNED ... deal with it.

They were murderous traitors to our nation . Why should anyone honor them?

Because that's what Freedom IS.

You're FREE to honor them in your backyard and your car. NOT on government property.

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[HappyJoy]

Washington and Lee University is a perfect place to send those statues.

Why is that? You think they are still the enemy at Washington and Lee College?

It's YOU that wants to re-fight that war.. Not us...

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

Of all the interests involved, it's EXACTLY Govt that should keep the cooler head and protect the heritage and history of the place they govern. And keep it out of the hands of the extreme partisans on EITHER side.

THat history and heritage is VALUABLE to their identity and their economy in the case of Civil War landmarks and historical sites.

Nice pivot, didn't even bother to consider your post that I quoted was highly uncalled for.

The monuments don't represent history, they represent celebrating the confederacy and ignoring the realty of their crimes.

They celebrate the sacrifice of the CONFLICT. To remind us of the COST of conflict.

I worked in Keil Germany for extended periods of time. The Germans have purged a lot of that history. But in Keil -- there is a German Naval memorial built similar to an old lighthouse. It has art depictions of the walls of EVERY German military vessel lost in the war.

I'm a raised Jew. And i teared up both times I went there. When you see the 4 stories of ships and men and lives lost -- you see the REALITY of that conflict. About 8 ft tall. 360 degrees around u of just U-Boats lost. With the dates and number of lives lost. They've probably bulldozed that by now.. But it would be a HUGE mistake to just PURGE it as you folks want to do...

Who is against demonstrating every vessel lost by either side of the civil war? Nobody wants to purge history, these monuments were mostly built at the height of the klan or even decades later. I don't see how a statue of Lee or Davis demonstrates sacrifice.

 

[flacaltenn]

Why is that? You think they are still the enemy at Washington and Lee College?

It's YOU that wants to re-fight that war.. Not us...

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

Of all the interests involved, it's EXACTLY Govt that should keep the cooler head and protect the heritage and history of the place they govern. And keep it out of the hands of the extreme partisans on EITHER side.

THat history and heritage is VALUABLE to their identity and their economy in the case of Civil War landmarks and historical sites.

Nice pivot, didn't even bother to consider your post that I quoted was highly uncalled for.

The monuments don't represent history, they represent celebrating the confederacy and ignoring the realty of their crimes.

They celebrate the sacrifice of the CONFLICT. To remind us of the COST of conflict.

I worked in Keil Germany for extended periods of time. The Germans have purged a lot of that history. But in Keil -- there is a German Naval memorial built similar to an old lighthouse. It has art depictions of the walls of EVERY German military vessel lost in the war.

I'm a raised Jew. And i teared up both times I went there. When you see the 4 stories of ships and men and lives lost -- you see the REALITY of that conflict. About 8 ft tall. 360 degrees around u of just U-Boats lost. With the dates and number of lives lost. They've probably bulldozed that by now.. But it would be a HUGE mistake to just PURGE it as you folks want to do...

Who is against demonstrating every vessel lost by either side of the civil war? Nobody wants to purge history, these monuments were mostly built at the height of the klan or even decades later. I don't see how a statue of Lee or Davis demonstrates sacrifice.

So Andrew Jackson started the modern Democrat party. Should we PURGE that history??

 

[HappyJoy]

It's because it's a private university, but hey, let's not let that get in the way of your incredibly over the top response.

Of all the interests involved, it's EXACTLY Govt that should keep the cooler head and protect the heritage and history of the place they govern. And keep it out of the hands of the extreme partisans on EITHER side.

THat history and heritage is VALUABLE to their identity and their economy in the case of Civil War landmarks and historical sites.

Nice pivot, didn't even bother to consider your post that I quoted was highly uncalled for.

The monuments don't represent history, they represent celebrating the confederacy and ignoring the realty of their crimes.

They celebrate the sacrifice of the CONFLICT. To remind us of the COST of conflict.

I worked in Keil Germany for extended periods of time. The Germans have purged a lot of that history. But in Keil -- there is a German Naval memorial built similar to an old lighthouse. It has art depictions of the walls of EVERY German military vessel lost in the war.

I'm a raised Jew. And i teared up both times I went there. When you see the 4 stories of ships and men and lives lost -- you see the REALITY of that conflict. About 8 ft tall. 360 degrees around u of just U-Boats lost. With the dates and number of lives lost. They've probably bulldozed that by now.. But it would be a HUGE mistake to just PURGE it as you folks want to do...

Who is against demonstrating every vessel lost by either side of the civil war? Nobody wants to purge history, these monuments were mostly built at the height of the klan or even decades later. I don't see how a statue of Lee or Davis demonstrates sacrifice.

So Andrew Jackson started the modern Democrat party. Should we PURGE that history??

Never heard of the 'Democrat party', be an adult and I'll reply.

 

[flacaltenn]

Should we tear down the slave quarters at every Southern plantation that is now on the tour list?

I know the black docents leading the tour groups at these places would object to that.
THEY don't seem to have a problem giving an objective and historically accurate depiction of the history. Why would you?

 

[HappyJoy]

Should we tear down the slave quarters at every Southern plantation that is now on the tour list?

No.

I know the black docents leading the tour groups at these places would object to that.
THEY don't seem to have a problem giving an objective and historically accurate depiction of the history. Why would you?

These monuments don't represent reality.

 

[rightwinger]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

There are many statutes that depict the events and people who were enslaved. Some idiots might find them offensive. Does that mean they should be torn down?

Or maybe just tear down the statues you don't like? I would specifically like to know how you think this should work.

We are talking about publicaly honoring a nation built on slavery

Communities setting aside their most prominent sites to honor a nation that lasted four years and killed 600,000 people just so they could enslave others

Move them somewhere else and put them in proper prospective

I really don't think a bunch of morons who didn't bother to learn the back ground of Robert E Lee need to be lecturing others on " perspective".

Lee had a choice

Defend his country or defend a country dedicated to preserving slavery

He chose the latter

He was defending a states right to secede.

Much like California is threatening these days...while liberals applaud.

Right to secede over slavery

Somehow it keeps getting back to that

 

[rightwinger]

Should we tear down the slave quarters at every Southern plantation that is now on the tour list?

I know the black docents leading the tour groups at these places would object to that.
THEY don't seem to have a problem giving an objective and historically accurate depiction of the history. Why would you?

That is part of the history of the south

More than a bunch of statues and rebel flags

 

[Tank]

You can tear them all down, if it will get the blacks to behave better

But what can we do to get the White trash to behave better?

Separate them from the black trash

 

[MarcATL]

random statues .. meh

removing historical monuments depicting people/events that have meaning to the country and remind future generations who we once were ? HELL NO !

PC/POLITICAL OPINIONS BE DAMNED ... deal with it.

They were murderous traitors to our nation . Why should anyone honor them?

I'm sure the south said the same thing about Lincoln and Grant.

Southern traitors maybe . Lincoln and Grant fought to save the USA . Not destroy it .

These confederate fans are the same who get offended by players sitting out the national anthem . Oh the irony !

Preach!!!

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[BlueGin]

There are many statutes that depict the events and people who were enslaved. Some idiots might find them offensive. Does that mean they should be torn down?

Or maybe just tear down the statues you don't like? I would specifically like to know how you think this should work.

We are talking about publicaly honoring a nation built on slavery

Communities setting aside their most prominent sites to honor a nation that lasted four years and killed 600,000 people just so they could enslave others

Move them somewhere else and put them in proper prospective

I really don't think a bunch of morons who didn't bother to learn the back ground of Robert E Lee need to be lecturing others on " perspective".

Lee had a choice

Defend his country or defend a country dedicated to preserving slavery

He chose the latter

He was defending a states right to secede.

Much like California is threatening these days...while liberals applaud.

Right to secede over slavery

Somehow it keeps getting back to that

Only because the left likes to compartmentalize everyone into their labeled little boxes. Sorry... we don't live in a strictly black and white world like little robots. The real world is more complex than that. You don't get to assign everyone their thoughts and reasoning for decisions and actions based on your partisan grievances 150 years after the fact.

 

[rightwinger]

We are talking about publicaly honoring a nation built on slavery

Communities setting aside their most prominent sites to honor a nation that lasted four years and killed 600,000 people just so they could enslave others

Move them somewhere else and put them in proper prospective

I really don't think a bunch of morons who didn't bother to learn the back ground of Robert E Lee need to be lecturing others on " perspective".

Lee had a choice

Defend his country or defend a country dedicated to preserving slavery

He chose the latter

He was defending a states right to secede.

Much like California is threatening these days...while liberals applaud.

Right to secede over slavery

Somehow it keeps getting back to that

Only because the left likes to compartmentalize everyone into their labeled little boxes. Sorry... we don't live in a strictly black and white world like little robots. The real world is more complex than that. You don't get to assign everyone their thoughts and reasoning for decisions and actions based on your partisan grievances 150 years after the fact.

It was compartmentalized

Being a negro meant you were no more than an animal. Not worthy of human rights. A commodity to be bought and sold. The core of southern wealth in the cotton market but unworthy of any of the profit

THAT is what the confederacy was about

 

[sealybobo]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

And honestly they are easier to spot when they have their hoods on.

Will klan hoods be the big Halloween costume this year?

 

[Cellblock2429]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

/---/ Dems desperate to erase their slavery owning heritage