OMG - Rand Paul wants to cut welfare for mothers after so many kids

[Sherry]

Progressivism has right wing and left wing facets. Did you not know that?

For instance, social cons who want to use Congress to outlaw abortion are far right progressives.

Progressivism is a philosophy that began in the 1890s supported by right, center, and left. It always had a racialist and class taint to it.

But it is what it is.

Yes, but thanks for the condescending tone...if it makes you feel better to believe that she wasn't an arm of the leftist Progressives, then have at it.

You resent my 'tone' after you used one on me. OK.

Thank you for accepting that progressivism has left and center and right facets.

Disagreeing isn't being condescending, but you're free to interpret my tone as you please and play tit for tat if that's your speed.

 

[edthecynic]

Liberals will now scream RACISM since blacks are ten times as likely as whites to be on welfare.

38.8% of welfare recipients are white, and 39.8% are black.

And add Hispanics to the white total, since they are normally identified that way, and we find that eight times as many white mothers draw welfare as black.

15.7% are hispanic.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

OMG - Rand Paul wants to cut welfare for mothers after so many kids

Once again Paul, the OP, and those who agree with him succeed only in exhibiting their ignorance, as such a provision has been in place since 1996.

The evidence continues to mount that ignorance and stupidity are prerequisites for being a conservative.

If you're dependent on the Government, then like any other form of bondage, you must follow their orders, and are subject to the Master denying or disparaging your benefits and privileges at any time.

Government plantation = slavery

You voted for it, you got it.

 

[oreo]

Liberals will now scream RACISM since blacks are ten times as likely as whites to be on welfare.

?Enough is enough?: Rand Paul suggests cutting benefits for unwed mothers with too many kids | The Raw Story

January 26, 2014 9:30 EST

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) suggested the possibility of cutting government benefits for unwed mothers who have multiple children.

“Maybe we have to say ‘enough’s enough, you shouldn’t be having kids after a certain amount,’” said Paul, who opposes legal abortion and has criticized the federal health care law’s contraception mandate as a violation of religious and economic liberty.

“I don’t know how you do all that because then it’s tough to tell a woman with four kids that she’s got a fifth kid we’re not going to give her any more money,” Paul said. “But we have to figure out how to get that message through because that is part of the answer. Some of that’s not coming from government. It needs to come from ministers and people in the community and parents and grandparents to convince our kids to do something different.”

The conservative senator said communities or families should be responsible for the prevention of unplanned or unwanted pregnancy, but he said government policies could discourage unwed mothers from having additional children.

“Married with kids versus unmarried with kids is the difference between living in poverty and not,” Paul said.

U.S. Census Bureau data back his claim, showing that 30.9 percent of families led by a single mother were living in poverty in 2012, compared to 6.3 percent of families led by a married couple and 16.4 percent of families led by a single father.

It's about time. There are many out there who know how to "work" the system--in an effort to stay out of the work-force in this country. Having kids that they can't afford to have in the first place is one of those techniques.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Government of We the People who elected our reps who govern with a mandate to respect minority rights is only bondage in the minds of weak heads.

Bondage would be communism or libertarianism or anarchy, as the strong prey on the weak.

 

[whitehall]

Where is the part where Paul used the words "cut welfare"? The radical left is so desperate these days that they don't just take statements out of context, they add words that don't exist in order to come up with something, anything to talk about except the mess Hussein created.

 

[Darkwind]

Liberals will now scream RACISM since blacks are ten times as likely as whites to be on welfare.

?Enough is enough?: Rand Paul suggests cutting benefits for unwed mothers with too many kids | The Raw Story

January 26, 2014 9:30 EST

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) suggested the possibility of cutting government benefits for unwed mothers who have multiple children.

“Maybe we have to say ‘enough’s enough, you shouldn’t be having kids after a certain amount,’” said Paul, who opposes legal abortion and has criticized the federal health care law’s contraception mandate as a violation of religious and economic liberty.

“I don’t know how you do all that because then it’s tough to tell a woman with four kids that she’s got a fifth kid we’re not going to give her any more money,” Paul said. “But we have to figure out how to get that message through because that is part of the answer. Some of that’s not coming from government. It needs to come from ministers and people in the community and parents and grandparents to convince our kids to do something different.”

The conservative senator said communities or families should be responsible for the prevention of unplanned or unwanted pregnancy, but he said government policies could discourage unwed mothers from having additional children.

“Married with kids versus unmarried with kids is the difference between living in poverty and not,” Paul said.

U.S. Census Bureau data back his claim, showing that 30.9 percent of families led by a single mother were living in poverty in 2012, compared to 6.3 percent of families led by a married couple and 16.4 percent of families led by a single father.

Perfect! Absolutely perfect!!!! Let's punish the children for the sins of their mother. Why don't we just arrest the mother and put her and her children into a woman's prison somewhere. We could make sure no men work or are allowed into that prison. Or better, we could forcible sterilize the mother. As I recall the Third Reich had pretty good success with this program.

So, you are against putting adults in jail for child abuse. Just so we're clear....

 

[LoneLaugher]

yeh cuz dat nex baby be bringin me sum mo govt cheese and leroy say he can knock me up agin if I gib him mah ebit card so he cans by som crack an sheet.

I agree in theory with Rand: something has to be done.

In relation to your comment: eight as many white women are on welfare as black women.

yeah, and they speak the same language of ghetto gutter talk. so my comment applies to them as well. its not racial, jake. I know you want it to be, but its not.

Shit, you really think everyone here besides you is retarded.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Liberals will now scream RACISM since blacks are ten times as likely as whites to be on welfare.

38.8% of welfare recipients are white, and 39.8% are black.

And what percentage of the population is black?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Just like libs want endless unemployment benefits...they want endless benefits for unwed mothers and as many children as they can pop out.
I'm sick of paying for this type shit. There needs to be some limits.

 

[Wolfsister77]

The kids have to be taken care of regardless of what the mothers are doing. That's why they get away with it if they are indeed having children to get more welfare. The kids didn't ask to be put in that situation so why should they suffer?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

yeh cuz dat nex baby be bringin me sum mo govt cheese and leroy say he can knock me up agin if I gib him mah ebit card so he cans by som crack an sheet.

You sure your screen name isn't redneck and not redfish?

 

[KGB]

The kids have to be taken care of regardless of what the mothers are doing. That's why they get away with it if they are indeed having children to get more welfare. The kids didn't ask to be put in that situation so why should they suffer?

the argument isn't targeted at the kids, but at the mothers who continually have kids they can't support. Why should that be society's responsibility for irresponsible behavior? If a person wants to have 20 kids, great. Just don't expect me to pay for them.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The kids have to be taken care of regardless of what the mothers are doing. That's why they get away with it if they are indeed having children to get more welfare. The kids didn't ask to be put in that situation so why should they suffer?

the argument isn't targeted at the kids, but at the mothers who continually have kids they can't support. Why should that be society's responsibility for irresponsible behavior? If a person wants to have 20 kids, great. Just don't expect me to pay for them.

Then stop fucking with Planned Parenthood and stop trying to reduce accessibility to contraceptives.

Shit !!!!!!!

 

[DigitalDrifter]

There is no doubt that welfare has been an incentive to have multiple children.
It would be interesting to have seen how many kids minorities would have had, had the benefits not been there, and they knew that they would have been responsible for feeding them, housing, etc.
Bet you there would have been damn few families with eight kids.

 

[LoneLaugher]

There is no doubt that welfare has been an incentive to have multiple children.
It would be interesting to have seen how many kids minorities would have had, had the benefits not been there, and they knew that they would have been responsible for feeding them, housing, etc.
Bet you there would have been damn few families with eight kids.

No doubt?

Fuck off. There is absolute doubt. You are talking out of your ass.

 

[KGB]

The kids have to be taken care of regardless of what the mothers are doing. That's why they get away with it if they are indeed having children to get more welfare. The kids didn't ask to be put in that situation so why should they suffer?

the argument isn't targeted at the kids, but at the mothers who continually have kids they can't support. Why should that be society's responsibility for irresponsible behavior? If a person wants to have 20 kids, great. Just don't expect me to pay for them.

Then stop fucking with Planned Parenthood and stop trying to reduce accessibility to contraceptives.

Shit !!!!!!!

who's trying to reduce accessibility to contraceptives. Last time I checked, you can get those in supermarkets everywhere....

 

[edthecynic]

Liberals will now scream RACISM since blacks are ten times as likely as whites to be on welfare.

38.8% of welfare recipients are white, and 39.8% are black.

And what percentage of the population is black?

There are not 10 times as many whites to blacks!

Whites are 69% of the population and blacks are 12%

 

[deltex1]

Liberals will now scream RACISM since blacks are ten times as likely as whites to be on welfare.

Perfect! Absolutely perfect!!!! Let's punish the children for the sins of their mother. Why don't we just arrest the mother and put her and her children into a woman's prison somewhere. We could make sure no men work or are allowed into that prison. Or better, we could forcible sterilize the mother. As I recall the Third Reich had pretty good success with this program.

If the mother was told there would be no more loot for extra kids, maybe she would use birth control and there would be no kids to "punish".

Just sayin'


You mean she can control her libido????

 

[Sherry]

Birth control freed women, just like men, to not have to worry about controlling their libido.