Once Again a Person with a Gun Stopped a Mass Shooter

[2aguy]

No...we are really happy he didn't use a rental truck......

A rental truck would have been stupid to use in this case. An AR-15, designed for attacking people, would have been perfect. So thank goodness he didn't use one.

Your lack of knowledge about firearms is showing. The AR-15 rifle was not designed for "attacking people", nor is it an "assault rifle".

It is a defensive weapon and aside from using it for hunting or sport shooting, the majority of them are being used to defend people's lives, their families' lives, and their property..

You're confusing the benevolent AR-15 with true military assault rifles which are designed for attacking people. Those are full-auto or three-round burst, can fire up to 800 rounds per minute, have 200-round magazines, and sometimes have 40mm grenade launchers attached to them.

Does it really matter what the AR-15 was designed to do? The fact is it is an externally lethal weapon, 56 killed in Vegas, 17 in Parkland, 49 at the Orlando Nightclub shootings, all within minutes. The news media has made this firearm and it's emulators the weapon of choice for nuts that are planning on killing dozens of people, long before police can respond.

In defense of assault rifles, opponents point to the lives that were saved by these weapons which are few and far between. Do we really need weapons with this killing capacity to defend a home against a criminal? There are many firearms available that can do a fine job of protecting the home. It is incredibility rare for a home owner to have to defend his home against dozens of attackers and if that does happen, there is law enforcement, something most gun enthusiasts choose to ignore.

The worst mass shooter was Virginia Tech and he killed 32 with 2 pistols using 10 round magazines in one of the pistols.......Luby"s cafe, the shooter killed 26 with 2 pistols...

The AR-15 civilian rifle is no more dangerous than pistols in a mass shooting since the shooters choose democrat gun free zones to do the shooting.....

In each situation you named, the victims were unarmed......and in any of those except for Vegas, armed people would have stopped the shooter as we see all the time where armed civilians actually confront mass shooters...we know this because we have actual events where this has happened.

A rental truck driven by a muslim terrorist in Nice, France killed 86 people, more people than every mass shooting in this country...with a rental truck.....

Knives kill more people every single year than all of the mass shooters combined over 35 years.....795 people killed by mass shooters from 1982-2017 v. over 1,600 people murdered with knives every single year.


The AR-15 is the exact same rifle as every other semi auto rifle on the civilian market...there is no difference...which is why the anti gun leadership wants to ban them. If they can ban the AR-15, they can demand banning all the other semi auto rifles and pistols.....which is exactly what they screamed they wanted to do at the CNN downhill......

You have no right to tell anyone which Constitutionally protected rifle they get to use to protect their family...every rifle has features that make it suitable for home defense....the biggest thing for the AR-15 is it is easy for women to shoot....far easier than shotguns and other rifles.......

But you guys don't really care about dead victims....you only want to ban guns...

 

[Nosmo King]

No. I never mentioned gun control. I am chastising you for ham handedly trying to score cheap, crass, Trumpian political points over a shooting at a school.

It's the neo-bullies, bolstered by the boorish antics of the huckster buffoon in the White House who are the unreasonable people. Dyed in the wool Republicans, although I disagree with their politics, are the only reasonable,people left on the right side of the political spectrum.

You want to make my argument for me? Keep telling the board what I think while making yourself look petty, churlish and unempathetic to gun violence in schools. A sixteen year.old girl lays in a Maryland hospital fighting for her young life. And you say it's a bad day for Democrats. It's a bad day do real school kids.

Somebody learned how to use a thesaurus!

Sure. Back when I was a high school sophomore in 1972.

If you read more, you too could express yourself better.

My God, you are older than dirt! I was a sophomore in 1976!

Sorry! Not buying it. Your vocabulary has always been late elementary to early middle school at best.

Aww! You're sweet!

Do you have a point to make, or are you engaging in rhetorical masturbation?

The only point you have is the one on top of your head where the doctor mashed it trying to get you out of the birth canal.

Come on! You can admit that you had to look up half the words in your post or you just heard them used before and had no clue as to what they meant.

No. I'm a well read person who is not ashamed of being well read.

 

[Nosmo King]

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE! As the NRA is a Terrorist Organization in 2018! FFS WELL? SINCE 1954!

Boy, that March against the US Constitution will change the world!

Here's part of the constitution that comes right before that stuff about a "well regulated militia":

The right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Read Heller v. United States.......they explain the 2nd Amendment wording so that even someone as stupid as you can understand it...

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

 

[Weatherman2020]

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE! As the NRA is a Terrorist Organization in 2018! FFS WELL? SINCE 1954!

Boy, that March against the US Constitution will change the world!

Here's part of the constitution that comes right before that stuff about a "well regulated militia":

The right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Read Heller v. United States.......they explain the 2nd Amendment wording so that even someone as stupid as you can understand it...

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No...we are really happy he didn't use a rental truck......

A rental truck would have been stupid to use in this case. An AR-15, designed for attacking people, would have been perfect. So thank goodness he didn't use one.

Your lack of knowledge about firearms is showing. The AR-15 rifle was not designed for "attacking people", nor is it an "assault rifle".

It is a defensive weapon and aside from using it for hunting or sport shooting, the majority of them are being used to defend people's lives, their families' lives, and their property..

You're confusing the benevolent AR-15 with true military assault rifles which are designed for attacking people. Those are full-auto or three-round burst, can fire up to 800 rounds per minute, have 200-round magazines, and sometimes have 40mm grenade launchers attached to them.

Does it really matter what the AR-15 was designed to do? The fact is it is an externally lethal weapon, 56 killed in Vegas, 17 in Parkland, 49 at the Orlando Nightclub shootings, all within minutes. The news media has made this firearm and it's emulators the weapon of choice for nuts that are planning on killing dozens of people, long before police can respond.

In defense of assault rifles, opponents point to the lives that were saved by these weapons which are few and far between. Do we really need weapons with this killing capacity to defend a home against a criminal? There are many firearms available that can do a fine job of protecting the home. It is incredibility rare for a home owner to have to defend his home against dozens of attackers and if that does happen, there is law enforcement, something most gun enthusiasts choose to ignore.

The worst mass shooter was Virginia Tech and he killed 32 with 2 pistols using 10 round magazines in one of the pistols.......Luby"s cafe, the shooter killed 26 with 2 pistols...

The AR-15 civilian rifle is no more dangerous than pistols in a mass shooting since the shooters choose democrat gun free zones to do the shooting.....

In each situation you named, the victims were unarmed......and in any of those except for Vegas, armed people would have stopped the shooter as we see all the time where armed civilians actually confront mass shooters...we know this because we have actual events where this has happened.

A rental truck driven by a muslim terrorist in Nice, France killed 86 people, more people than every mass shooting in this country...with a rental truck.....

Knives kill more people every single year than all of the mass shooters combined over 35 years.....795 people killed by mass shooters from 1982-2017 v. over 1,600 people murdered with knives every single year.


The AR-15 is the exact same rifle as every other semi auto rifle on the civilian market...there is no difference...which is why the anti gun leadership wants to ban them. If they can ban the AR-15, they can demand banning all the other semi auto rifles and pistols.....which is exactly what they screamed they wanted to do at the CNN downhill......

You have no right to tell anyone which Constitutionally protected rifle they get to use to protect their family...every rifle has features that make it suitable for home defense....the biggest thing for the AR-15 is it is easy for women to shoot....far easier than shotguns and other rifles.......

But you guys don't really care about dead victims....you only want to ban guns...

Virginia Tech the dumbass kids sat at their desks getting shot one by one.

 

[Nosmo King]

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE! As the NRA is a Terrorist Organization in 2018! FFS WELL? SINCE 1954!

Boy, that March against the US Constitution will change the world!

Here's part of the constitution that comes right before that stuff about a "well regulated militia":

The right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Read Heller v. United States.......they explain the 2nd Amendment wording so that even someone as stupid as you can understand it...

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Boy, that March against the US Constitution will change the world!

Here's part of the constitution that comes right before that stuff about a "well regulated militia":

The right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Read Heller v. United States.......they explain the 2nd Amendment wording so that even someone as stupid as you can understand it...

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Almost every person with a gun who intends to murder a lot of people is stopped by someone with a gun. The Maryland school today is no exception.

If the armed law enforcement officers in Parkland had acted as they should have, a lot of lives would have been saved.

You can’t keep criminals from obtaining guns, but you can defend people from criminals.

Maryland High School Shooting Leaves 3 Students in Critical Condition, Including Suspect

I new this latest incident would fire up the NRA-fueled assholes.

Some points to ponder:

1) The Resource offer was a well trained law enforcement man with SWAT training & training in working with youth.
2) The shooter had a hand gun, not an assault type rifle. Not outgunning the officer.
3) The reason looks o be he got dumped by his girlfriend and not to kill everyone he could.
4) The shooter knew there was an armed guard & went in anyway trashing this "anti free gun zone" stupidity.

But if you are thinking on becoming a criminal, the NRA wants it to be really easy to purchase a deadly killing machine.

You forgot it was illegal for him to have a gun in the first place.

So your entire agenda is blown to hell.

 

[Nosmo King]

Here's part of the constitution that comes right before that stuff about a "well regulated militia":

The right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Read Heller v. United States.......they explain the 2nd Amendment wording so that even someone as stupid as you can understand it...

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

 

[there4eyeM]

Just imagine all those good guys with guns calmly patrolling the neighborhoods around endangered children. Such an American ideal. One wonders why the gun whiners here are so reluctant to take up the challenge. Would there beer get too warm being held for them? They talk about the enormous value of bearing arms, but we must assume that they mis-read it and only want to bare arms when it's warm.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Read Heller v. United States.......they explain the 2nd Amendment wording so that even someone as stupid as you can understand it...

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

State run protests against the US Constitution paid for the taxpayers should have every teacher involved in jail.

 

[Nosmo King]

I'm citing the constitution.

And there's the problem for the critics of the March for Life.

The people have the right to peaceably assemble and redress their grievances.

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

State run protests against the US Constitution paid for the taxpayers should have every teacher involved in jail.

Why do you believe the March for Life is a "state run protest"? Or do you believe permissions for a protest or a school assembly reaches the threshold of "state run" protest?

 

[Weatherman2020]

School kids don’t have 1st amendment rights in school. And adults don’t at work.

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

State run protests against the US Constitution paid for the taxpayers should have every teacher involved in jail.

Why do you believe the March for Life is a "state run protest"? Or do you believe permissions for a protest or a school assembly reaches the threshold of "state run" protest?

You know I’m referring to the kids being used as pawns during school hours.

 

[Coyote]

Being pro-choice kills no one.

I didn't say anything about being pro-choice. I said abortion kills every baby it touches.

But since you brought it up, let me throw a little critical thinking at you. Being pro abortion means that you are specifically okay with killing babies. Whereas, being pro 2nd amendment merely means that you wish to keep the right to bear arms, not that you condone or are responsible for killings by firearms.

What is interesting is your choice of terminology.

Being pro choice kills no one. Being pro 2nd amendment kills no one. But abortion kills. And guns kill.

Critical thinking takes note of your choice of wording.

You're right: abortion kills and guns kill. So, take note of your wording in your original remark and explain to me why it's ironic that anti gun control people are against abortion.

They are also usually pro-death penalty as well.

You didn't say anything about the death penalty, pro or con, so how are we expected to make that connection? Shouldn't the original remark have read: "OH brother. Pro death penalty crowd giving lectures on abortion? The irony."?

Abortion and gun issues are really two very different issues. And here is how I view it. Both should be well regulated.

You say they're two very different issues (and they are) and yet you connected them anyway.

Becsuse you di in the post I responded to.

 

[Nosmo King]

But everyone has those rights on the streets of America. School kids and adults will peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutionality protected rights.

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

State run protests against the US Constitution paid for the taxpayers should have every teacher involved in jail.

Why do you believe the March for Life is a "state run protest"? Or do you believe permissions for a protest or a school assembly reaches the threshold of "state run" protest?

You know I’m referring to the kids being used as pawns during school hours.

And I find it incredulous that you believe the kids don't have legitimate concerns born of their own experience. Does critical thinking and Life experience converge magically on one's eighteenth birthday? Were you just a dupe at 17 yet fully cogent at 18?

In 1973 I was a sophomore in high school, yet I was aware of Watergate. Hell! When I was five years old, I paid attention to the grown ups because they were worried the world was going to end in October of 1962!

You don't give kids enough credit for being aware of their own circumstances. And by not giving them credit, you find it easier to dismiss them to serve your own agenda. And that agenda is shutting down the first amendment only to support your interpretation of the second.

 

[Weatherman2020]

After school they do.

But the government forcing kids to march is another thing. State sanctioned protests against the Constitution shows how depraved the public school system is.

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

State run protests against the US Constitution paid for the taxpayers should have every teacher involved in jail.

Why do you believe the March for Life is a "state run protest"? Or do you believe permissions for a protest or a school assembly reaches the threshold of "state run" protest?

You know I’m referring to the kids being used as pawns during school hours.

And I find it incredulous that you believe the kids don't have legitimate concerns born of their own experience. Does critical thinking and Life experience converge magically on one's eighteenth birthday? Were you just a dupe at 17 yet fully cogent at 18?

In 1973 I was a sophomore in high school, yet I was aware of Watergate. Hell! When I was five years old, I paid attention to the grown ups because they were worried the world was going to end in October of 1962!

You don't give kids enough credit for being aware of their own circumstances. And by not giving them credit, you find it easier to dismiss them to serve your own agenda. And that agenda is shutting down the first amendment only to support your interpretation of the second.

Unless it involves themselves or their cell phone kids don’t care.

And takes a total moron to think kindergarten kids organized a demonstration against the 2nd amendment.

 

[kaz]

"Leftists" are not for disarming everyone

You're fundamentally dishonest

 

[kaz]

A school shooting with the perfect body count. One. The gunman. Who is killed with an evil gun. Sorry Democrats. And even worse for you, this is going to deter future shooters.

Shooter dead, two injured after shooting at Great Mills High School in Maryland

Democrats of course want honest citizens disarmed because they are the biggest threat to your totalitarian leftist government dream. School shootings are gold. Dead kids to exploit as propaganda to disarm a nation.



There there, lefties. Keep a stiff upper lip

I see you are still s[pewing your lies & stupidity.

"Leftists" are not for disarming everyone.

Many are better armed & better trained than you.

Kaz, like so many others shows signs of paranoia which is recognized as a symptom of mental disease. Should mentally diseased people be allowed to play with guns? Nope.

Another leftist who can't support your ideas with actual arguments. You're a dime a dozen

 

[RealDave]

A school shooting with the perfect body count. One. The gunman. Who is killed with an evil gun. Sorry Democrats. And even worse for you, this is going to deter future shooters.

Shooter dead, two injured after shooting at Great Mills High School in Maryland

Democrats of course want honest citizens disarmed because they are the biggest threat to your totalitarian leftist government dream. School shootings are gold. Dead kids to exploit as propaganda to disarm a nation.



There there, lefties. Keep a stiff upper lip

I see you are still s[pewing your lies & stupidity.

"Leftists" are not for disarming everyone.

Many are better armed & better trained than you.

Kaz, like so many others shows signs of paranoia which is recognized as a symptom of mental disease. Should mentally diseased people be allowed to play with guns? Nope.

Another leftist who can't support your ideas with actual arguments. You're a dime a dozen

Feel free to point out which of my points was incorrect,.

Nothing like a fucking dumbass Trumpettte complaining about a post without support by making a post wuith no support. Right Sparky?

 

[Nosmo King]

Are you opposed to school assemblies, or are you just opposed to school assemblies dealing with gun violence?

State run protests against the US Constitution paid for the taxpayers should have every teacher involved in jail.

Why do you believe the March for Life is a "state run protest"? Or do you believe permissions for a protest or a school assembly reaches the threshold of "state run" protest?

You know I’m referring to the kids being used as pawns during school hours.

And I find it incredulous that you believe the kids don't have legitimate concerns born of their own experience. Does critical thinking and Life experience converge magically on one's eighteenth birthday? Were you just a dupe at 17 yet fully cogent at 18?

In 1973 I was a sophomore in high school, yet I was aware of Watergate. Hell! When I was five years old, I paid attention to the grown ups because they were worried the world was going to end in October of 1962!

You don't give kids enough credit for being aware of their own circumstances. And by not giving them credit, you find it easier to dismiss them to serve your own agenda. And that agenda is shutting down the first amendment only to support your interpretation of the second.

Unless it involves themselves or their cell phone kids don’t care.

And takes a total moron to think kindergarten kids organized a demonstration against the 2nd amendment.

Continue to dismiss the awareness of kids and make my point for me.

And kindergarten kids aren't aware of the second amendment and its ramifications. Kindergarten kids, however, were slaughtered by an AR-15 in Connecticut and are justifiably scared it will happen to them again.