Once again, spending is way down under a Democratic President

How many times are they going to whip out this graph and say spending is down?

good grief
 
Obama has spent less than Bush, and his deficits are smaller.

That is false.

No, it isn't.

How much NEW debt has Obama created that wasn't a direct or indirect result of Bush actions and policies?

the debt was 9 T when he took over, its 17 T today after less than 4 years. and if the bush policies were so terrible, why did obama continue them? he had total control for his first two years, and what did he do, Passed the worst piece of legislation in the history of the nation----obozocare.
 
Obama has spent less than Bush, and his deficits are smaller.

That is false.

No, it isn't.

How much NEW debt has Obama created that wasn't a direct or indirect result of Bush actions and policies?

Bush ain't President dipchit... Obama ran off repealing/ending Bush era polices but instead expanded most of the worst most costly. Hell, Bush era policy ended the Iraq war, Obama tried to stay in it, we were kicked out.

Obama said he would cut the annual deficit in half, and instead for 5 years he grew it, to historic highs. Yet you defend him. Would you like me to pull up video?
 
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Stupid people keep posting the same stupid lies.

Math isn't lying.

It's math.

The fact that the Chart's title is a lie, then has a subtitle claiming "growth in spending" should tell you how fuzzy the math with be.
 
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According to CBO numbers in its Budget and Economic Outlook published this month, the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.

The projected cost of the stimulus, which passed in February 2009, and is expected to have a shelf life of two years, was $862 billion.

The U.S. deficit for fiscal year 2010 is expected to be $1.3 trillion, according to CBO. That compares to a 2007 deficit of $160.7 billion and a 2008 deficit of $458.6 billion, according to data provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.
.CBO: Eight Years of Iraq War Cost Less Than Stimulus Act
Published August 30, 2010
FoxNews.com

http://www.gao.gov/special.pubs/longterm/deficit/
Iraq and Afghanistan
Between September 2001 and October 2012, lawmakers have appropriated about $1.4 trillion (including an estimated $127 billion for fiscal year 2012) for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and for other war-related activities. Of that funding, about $1.25 trillion has gone to the Department of Defense, with nearly $150 billion provided for training indigenous security forces and for diplomatic relations and foreign aid for Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.cbo.gov/latest/national-security/iraq-and-afghanistan
 

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2 points.

1 I always get suspicious when conservatives, plural, repeat over and over the evidence presented is bullshit, a lie, debunked, false youre an idiot, dickhead etc etc. Not because it comes from conservatives but because the same people say it over and over, multiple posts and every post has more insult than links, facts or evidence. You have the time to post it yet, you don't.? Curious that.

2. Health likes to trot out that list a lot. Problem is that those events happened...9/11 on his watch, and he kept spending. Cheney TOLD YOU. When someone tells you some thing, listen. He said Deficits don't matter. Period. Then drove that puppy thru the roof and put the wars off the books. Boom, falls in Obamas lap and u blame Bu...Obama! 9/11 could've been prevented, possibly at least, but "Bin Laden Determined to Strike" wasn't eye catching enough for GWB.
 
The Federal Government’s Long-Term Fiscal Outlook
Spring 2013 Update

Our long-term simulations continue to highlight the need to focus attention not only on the federal government's near-term budget outlook but also on its longer-term fiscal path. In the near term, deficits are expected to continue to decline from the recent historic highs as the economy recovers and actions taken by Congress and the President begin to take effect. Debt held by the public as a share of gross domestic product (GDP), however, remains well above historical averages. Debt held by the public at these high levels could limit the federal government's flexibility to address emerging issues and unforeseen challenges such as another economic downturn or large-scale natural disaster. Furthermore, in both the Baseline Extended and Alternative simulations, debt held by the public continues to grow as a share of GDP in the coming decades, indicating that the federal government remains on an unsustainable long-term fiscal path (see fig. 1). Rising debt in both simulations is driven by a fundamental imbalance between revenue and spending, which, on the spending side, is driven by the aging of the population and rising health care costs. Significant action to change the long-term fiscal path must be taken soon to minimize the risk that eventual policy changes will be disruptive to individuals and the economy, while also taking into account concerns about near-term economic growth.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/653719.pdf
 
ALL of the ABOVE occurred YET you idiots for some stupid reason WILL NOT ADMIT THEY HAPPENED!
When they happened people lost lives! Businesses were destroyed! ASSETS were destroyed! TAX REVENUE property taxes sales taxes ALL DOWN!!!
YET did we go into an economic DIVE??? NOPE!!!

And he did not spend like a conservative should. He was handed a balanced budget. He should have done the same to Obama. He also created a disaster in Iraq. He didn't deal well with your list hence how they got so out of control. I haven't heard anyone say Katrina was handled well. Bottom line, he spent too much. If Republicans are going to talk like they want small government then they should back it up. I haven't seen it in my lifetime.
 
According to CBO numbers in its Budget and Economic Outlook published this month, the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.

The projected cost of the stimulus, which passed in February 2009, and is expected to have a shelf life of two years, was $862 billion.

The U.S. deficit for fiscal year 2010 is expected to be $1.3 trillion, according to CBO. That compares to a 2007 deficit of $160.7 billion and a 2008 deficit of $458.6 billion, according to data provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.
.CBO: Eight Years of Iraq War Cost Less Than Stimulus Act
Published August 30, 2010
FoxNews.com

Measuring the Deficit: Cash vs. Accrual
Iraq and Afghanistan
Between September 2001 and October 2012, lawmakers have appropriated about $1.4 trillion (including an estimated $127 billion for fiscal year 2012) for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and for other war-related activities. Of that funding, about $1.25 trillion has gone to the Department of Defense, with nearly $150 billion provided for training indigenous security forces and for diplomatic relations and foreign aid for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.
 
According to CBO numbers in its Budget and Economic Outlook published this month, the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.

The projected cost of the stimulus, which passed in February 2009, and is expected to have a shelf life of two years, was $862 billion.

The U.S. deficit for fiscal year 2010 is expected to be $1.3 trillion, according to CBO. That compares to a 2007 deficit of $160.7 billion and a 2008 deficit of $458.6 billion, according to data provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.
.CBO: Eight Years of Iraq War Cost Less Than Stimulus Act
Published August 30, 2010
FoxNews.com

Measuring the Deficit: Cash vs. Accrual
Iraq and Afghanistan
Between September 2001 and October 2012, lawmakers have appropriated about $1.4 trillion (including an estimated $127 billion for fiscal year 2012) for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and for other war-related activities. Of that funding, about $1.25 trillion has gone to the Department of Defense, with nearly $150 billion provided for training indigenous security forces and for diplomatic relations and foreign aid for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.

should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
 
.CBO: Eight Years of Iraq War Cost Less Than Stimulus Act
Published August 30, 2010
FoxNews.com

Measuring the Deficit: Cash vs. Accrual

Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.

should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.

It would be more effective and cheaper if we brought all the troops back to the US. Ron Paul has it right when it comes to defense.
 
.CBO: Eight Years of Iraq War Cost Less Than Stimulus Act
Published August 30, 2010
FoxNews.com

Measuring the Deficit: Cash vs. Accrual

Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.

should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
So that justifies the Right lying about the true cost of Bush's war on terror. :cuckoo:
 
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.

should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
So that justifies the Right lying about the true cost of Bush's war on terror. :cuckoo:

did I say that? BTW, who by name is "the right" ? Who by name has lied about the cost of caring for injured soldiers?
 
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.

should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.

It would be more effective and cheaper if we brought all the troops back to the US. Ron Paul has it right when it comes to defense.

He was right about a lot of things, Get behind Rand Paul, he has more right than his dad.
 
Of course that phony number does not include the medical costs of the tens of thousands of military personal who were injured. When you add the lifetime costs of lost limbs and brain injuries you are up over 2 trillion for the war on terror.

The Right never gives accurate numbers for anything! The Right lies to the ignorance of the Misinformation Voter.

should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
So that justifies the Right lying about the true cost of Bush's war on terror. :cuckoo:

are you claiming the CBO and the GAO are lying with their figures?
Earlier I posted Bill Clinton's agreement with us going into iraq. Want me to post that again? Want me to post those other countries that had intelligence that agreed with ours and joined us? Want me to post the names of all the Dems that also voted for us to go into Iraq? If not, then quit the bull of always blaming Bush.
 
should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
So that justifies the Right lying about the true cost of Bush's war on terror. :cuckoo:

are you claiming the CBO and the GAO are lying with their figures?
Earlier I posted Bill Clinton's agreement with us going into iraq. Want me to post that again? Want me to post those other countries that had intelligence that agreed with ours and joined us? Want me to post the names of all the Dems that also voted for us to go into Iraq? If not, then quit the bull of always blaming Bush.

Even if everyone was deceived it doesn't mean it was a good idea. Fact is there were no WMD's. Iraq had nothing to do with any terror attacks on us. He probably would have stomped out any terrorists as they might challenge his rule. Heck if Saddam was still around I don't think he'd let Iran get nukes so we wouldn't have to worry about that either.
 
should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
So that justifies the Right lying about the true cost of Bush's war on terror. :cuckoo:

did I say that? BTW, who by name is "the right" ? Who by name has lied about the cost of caring for injured soldiers?
The perpetual dumb act.
 
should we let the radical muslims just take our country over without a fight? Are you OK with more bombings like Boston until we just give in?

they are out to destroy us, if we do not fight, they will succeed.
So that justifies the Right lying about the true cost of Bush's war on terror. :cuckoo:

are you claiming the CBO and the GAO are lying with their figures?
Earlier I posted Bill Clinton's agreement with us going into iraq. Want me to post that again? Want me to post those other countries that had intelligence that agreed with ours and joined us? Want me to post the names of all the Dems that also voted for us to go into Iraq? If not, then quit the bull of always blaming Bush.
Are you claiming the numbers you posted included the costs of caring for the injured?

"We are now convinced Saddam has no weapons of mass destruction or active programs."
- President Bill Clinton, August 9th, 2000

"We do not have any direct evidence that Iraq has used the period since Desert Fox to reconstitute its WMD programs"
-George Tenet, 2/07/2001

"We believe the sanctions have been effective, and Saddam Hussein's regime has no weapons of mass destruction."
-Condoleeza Rice, February 16th, 2001

"Containment has been achieved, and we now believe Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction or the capability of producing them."
- Colin Powell, February 23rd, 2001
 

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