One More Fabrication: “The Southern Strategy”

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Which party has all those southern Dixiecrats?

 

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Which party has all those southern Dixiecrats?

Do you have anything post 1965?

 

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Considering the republic inspired Nixon southern strategy in 1968, no wonder all substance stopped in 1965.

March 7, 1965 Police under the command of Democrat Governor George Wallace attack African-Americans demonstrating for voting rights in Selma, AL

March 21, 1965 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson authorizes Martin Luther King’s protest march from Selma to Montgomery, overruling Democrat Governor George Wallace

August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose

August 6, 1965 Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

July 8, 1970 In special message to Congress, President Richard Nixon calls for reversal of policy of forced termination of Native American rights and benefits

September 17, 1971 Former Ku Klux Klan member and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black (D-AL) retires from U.S. Supreme Court; appointed by FDR in 1937, he had defended Klansmen for racial murders

February 19, 1976 President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII

September 15, 1981 President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs

June 29, 1982 President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act

August 10, 1988 President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR

November 21, 1991 President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation

August 20, 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law

April 26, 1999 Legislation authored by U.S. Senator Spencer Abraham (R-MI) awarding Congressional Gold Medal to civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks is transmitted to President

January 25, 2001 U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee declares school choice to be “Educational Emancipation”

March 19, 2003 Republican U.S. Representatives of Hispanic and Portuguese descent form Congressional Hispanic Conference

May 23, 2003 U.S. Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) introduces bill to establish National Museum of African American History and Culture

 

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The republic party didn’t end slavery. It won the “war of northern aggression “ to preserve a strong federal government.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 - Wikipedia

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

Frederick Douglas believed that the 3/5th clause is an anti-slavery clause. Not a pro-slavery clause. Frederick Douglas believed that the Constitution was an anti-slavery document.

(1860) Frederick Douglass, “the Constitution of the United States: Is It Pro-Slavery or Anti-slavery?” | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed

What Did Frederick Douglass Believe About the U.S. Constitution? | The Classroom | Synonym

http://townhall.com/columnists/kenb...onstitution_did_not_condone_slavery/page/full

And so did others.

In May of 1854, following the passage of these pro-slavery laws in Congress, a number of anti-slavery Democrats along with some anti-slavery members from other parties, including the Whigs, Free-Soilers, and Emancipationists formed a new party to fight slavery and secure equal civil rights. The name of the new party? The Republican Party. It was named the Republican Party because they wanted to return to the principles of freedom set forth in the governing documents of the Republic before pro-slavery members of Congress had perverted those original principles.

History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia

Republican Party founded - Mar 20, 1854 - HISTORY.com

Republican Party - The Republican Party In The New Millennium

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow. Jim Crow Stories . Republican Party | PBS

"The Democratic Party had become the dominant political party in America in the 1820s, [30] and in May 1854, in response to the strong pro-slavery positions of the Democrats, several anti-slavery Members of Congress formed an anti-slavery party – the Republican Party. [31] It was founded upon the principles of equality originally set forth in the governing documents of the Republic. In an 1865 publication documenting the history of black voting rights, Philadelphia attorney John Hancock confirmed that the Declaration of Independence set forth “equal rights to all. It contains not a word nor a clause regarding color. Nor is there any provision of the kind to be found in the Constitution of the United States.”

The History of Black Voting Rights [Great read!]

In 1856, the Democratic platform strongly defended slavery. According to the Democrats of 1856, ending slavery would be dangerous and would ruin the happiness of the people.

“All efforts of the abolitionists... are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences and all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people.” McKee, The National...Platforms, Democratic Platform of 1856, p.91

In 1857, a Democratically controlled Supreme Court delivered the Dred Scott decision, declaring that blacks were not persons or citizens but instead were property and therefore had no rights. In effect, Democrats believed slaves were property that could be disposed of at the will of its owner.

Democrats on the Court announced that "blacks had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the Negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold, and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever a profit could be made by it." Dred Scott at 407 (1856)

Dred Scott v. Sandford - Wikipedia

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Dred Scott Decision

Dred Scott

Dred Scott: Democratic Reaction

The Democratic Platform for 1860 supported both the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and the Dred Scott decision of 1857. The Democrats even handed out copies of the Dred Scott decision with their platform to affirm that it was proper to hold African Americans in bondage.

2. Inasmuch as difference of opinion exists in the Democratic party as to the nature and extent of the powers of a Territorial Legislature, and as to the powers and duties of Congress, under the Constitution of the United States, over the institution of slavery within the Territories, Resolved, That the Democratic party will abide by the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States upon these questions of Constitutional Law.

6. Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.

Avalon Project - Democratic Party Platform; June 18, 1860

The Republican platform of 1860, on the other hand, blasted both the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and the Dred Scott decision of 1857 and announced its continued intent to end slavery and secure equal civil rights for black Americans.

2. That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Federal Constitution, "That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed," is essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions; and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the states, and the Union of the states, must and shall be preserved.

5. That the present Democratic Administration has far exceeded our worst apprehension in its measureless subserviency to the exactions of a sectional interest, as is especially evident in its desperate exertions to force the infamous Lecompton constitution upon the protesting people of Kansas - in construing the personal relation between master and servant to involve an unqualified property in persons - in its attempted enforcement everywhere, on land and sea, through the intervention of congress and of the federal courts, of the extreme pretensions of a purely local interest, and in its general and unvarying abuse of the power entrusted to it by a confiding people.

7. That the new dogma that the Constitution of its own force carries slavery into any or all of the territories of the United States, is a dangerous political heresy, at variance with the explicit provisions of that instrument itself, with cotemporaneous exposition, and with legislative and judicial precedent, is revolutionary in its tendency and subversive of the peace and harmony of the country.

8. That the normal condition of all the territory of the United States is that of freedom; that as our republican fathers, when they had abolished slavery in all our national territory, ordained that no "person should be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law," it becomes our duty, by legislation, whenever such legislation is necessary, to maintain this provision of the constitution against all attempts to violate it; and we deny the authority of congress, of a territorial legislature, or of any individuals, to give legal existence to slavery in any territory of the United States.

9. That we brand the recent re-opening of the African Slave Trade, under the cover of our national flag, aided by perversions of judicial power, as a crime against humanity, and a burning shame to our country and age, and we call upon congress to take prompt and efficient measures for the total and final suppression of that execrable traffic.

10. That in the recent vetoes by the federal governors of the acts of the Legislatures of Kansas and Nebraska, prohibiting slavery in those territories, we find a practical illustration of the boasted democratic principle of non- intervention and popular sovereignty, embodied in the Kansas-Nebraska bill, and a demonstration of the deception and fraud involved therein.
Republican Party National Platform, 1860


Republicans freed the slaves, Democrats in the North and the South fought against it.

January 31, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery was passed by U.S. House of Representatives with unanimous Republican support and intense Democrat opposition.

April 8, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support and 63% Democrat opposition.

November 22, 1865
Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “Black Codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination.

February 5, 1866
U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves.

April 9, 1866
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto, and the Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law.

May 10, 1866
U.S. House passes the Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens, with 100% of Democrats voting no.

June 8, 1866
U.S. Senate passes the Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens, where 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no.

January 8, 1867
Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

July 19, 1867
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans.

March 30, 1868
Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”.

It kind of sounds to me like the Republican Party ended slavery.

Nope, fake history.

 

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It is illogical and not factual in the extreme to claim the southern Democrats "jumped the aisle" to the Republicans when it was the Republicans who voted into law the act that raised the Democrat's ire. Everett Dirkson rammed it right down their throats.

How did they all become Republican then? Republicans saw a golden opportunity in the south. They sold their soul to the racists for political power.

They did not. Perhaps some saw the error of their ways.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was opposed by the Democrats. Robert Byrd filibustered 14 hours against it, and remained a Democrat till his death. The Republicans rammed it into law.

Your "Southern Strategy" fiction is not even marginally logical.

Southern Dems were conservatives. That is why it was easy for them to switch to the GOP when the Dems betrayed them by taking up the Civil Rights flag...the GOP capitalized on that golden opportunity...and sold their soul.

Completely funny.

That's why the Democrats joined George Wallace and Bull Conner in bashing them Negroes' heads in during the Civil Rights Movement.

I am from that time, goober. I know what happened.

Those were Dixiecrats.

The same douchbags who jumped ship to the Republican side of the aisle after the 1964 passage of the Civil RIghts Act.

 

[Asclepias]

Still waiting for someone to explain away how the GOP admitted to the Southern Strategy on 2 different occasions (at least) if its supposedly fiction? So far no one has been able to offer a sane explanation. Anyone of you intelligent repubs want to give it a swing?

 

[Dan Stubbs]

In order to hide their racist background, the Democrats/Liberals have developed a story line that the party created to end slavery somehow decided to ‘flip’ and become an endorser of racism….and then engaged in a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the racist vote in the South.

Bogus.

Time to blow up that lie.





1.The facts are simple: The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
To obfuscate this and fortify it, the Democrats have largely used lies and violence.

One truly sophomoric attempt has been the ‘flip flop’ pretense, that a century after the Civil War, still sulking because the Republicans pried their slaves away from them, they tried to claim that the party formed to fight the Democrats and slavery, suddenly became the racists.

The lie is easily defeated by asking any reliable Democrat voter what the chances are that they would suddenly become Trump supporters.




2. Unable to comprehend that Southern Americans are not the racists that the Democrats are, they had to find some explanation for their ancient base, the South, turning to vote Republican. Sooo….they claimed that Nixon campaigned as a racist to gain the Deep South, to win over the Dixiecrats and segregationists to the Republican fold.

Of course, problem #1 is that the Democrats cannot provide a single example of an explicitly racist pitch in the campaign. There never was one.



3. “The two biggest issues in the 1968 campaign were the Vietnam War…and the anti-war movement….

Nixon campaigned on a strong anti-communist, law and order platform. While embracing the welfare state- Nixon was no conservative on domestic issues- he also railed against what he termed ‘the excesses of bleeding heart liberalism.’” "Death Of A Nation,” Dinesh D’Souza, p. 203




4.”Liberal neurotic obsession with this apocryphal notion- (that Southern Strategy) it’s been cited hundreds of times in the NYTimes- is supposed to explain why Democrats can’t get nice churchgoing, patriotic southerners to vote for the party of antiwar protesters, abortion, the ACLU and gay marriage.

They tell themselves it’s because they won’t stoop to pander to a bunch of racists. This slander should probably be the first clue as to why southerners don’t like them.

The central premise of this folklore is that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Pretty sophisticated thinking.”
Coulter, Mugged



Soooo....what happened to the Southern voter?

They behaved as good Americans, refused to support racist Democrats, and the racist voters aged out....and died.

Rectitude and Republicans won out.

I miss the Grand Wiz from West Vir, Senator Byrd. lol

 

[Correll]

What IF, I am correct, and the Southern Strategy is a myth?

I have no idea. I don't see how it matters right now, at this very moment.

What matters to me is that both ends of this issue refuse to look in the mirror.
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You don't think it would be relevant, if a third of the country, you thought was voting based on hate, was NOT?


You dont' think that would matter?

No, I sure don't.

Some declaration that "the Southern Strategy is a myth" would not change minds, one iota.

Minorities are far more likely to look at what they actually see, such as a President who pretends not to know who David Duke is.
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Denouncing white supremacists is a trap for republicans, because every time we allow libs to ask us that, it supports the illusion that it is a reasonable question.


Trump tried to blow the question off. And that is what media focuses on, instead of the dozens of times in the past and since when he has denounced in one way or another, white supremacists.


The media is fucking you.


And US.


And I did not ask, what if there was a declaration that the southern strategy was a myth.


I asked you what if it truly was a myth?


What would that mean, in your opinion?

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. To paraphrase Edmond Rostand….

“Now, as I end my refrain, ……thrust home!”

Time to skewer the myth of a Southern Strategy….




By the numbers we can see who got the racist vote: Democrats

George Wallace:
“Segregation Now, Segregation Forever”

George Wallace votes went to Democrats.

Wallace was a Democrat, and the same people who voted for Wallace voted Democrat...

Slavers, segregationists, and other racists.




"Four years after Goldwater, the segregationist vote went right back to Democrats: Humphrey got half of Wallace’s supporters on election day. Nixon got none of ‘em.

“When the '68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.” Pat Buchanan - The neocons & Nixon's southern strategy




Watch how Buchanan characterizes the Democrat Party:
"Richard Nixon kicked off his historic comeback in 1966 with a column on the South (by Buchanan) that declared we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the "party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice."



What did the racist party….the Democrats….do?

They authored the Southern Strategy myth.


Some fools still believe it.

No comment on why the GOP admitted to using the Southern Strategy eh?

They didn't.


There was no ‘Southern Racist Strategy’ that turned the South. Fact is, most of them Southerners voted based on entirely different issues than race…and these were Republican issues.


a.The increasingly industrial ‘New South’ saw the benefits of a free market economy.


b. The patriotic anti-communist, and law-and-order platform appealed to most Americans.



c. The trend continued, and by “the late 1970s and through the 1980s, in response to the Reaganite appeal to free-market capitalism, patriotism, pro-life, school prayer, family values.


These economic and social issues were far more central to Reagan’s message than race, and they struck a chord beyond—no less than within—the South.”
The Switch That Never Happened: How the South Really Went GOP - American Greatness




The Democrat Party of Jefferson Davis, Bull Connor, and Bill Clinton has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship. The ‘Southern Strategy’ claim is an attempt to hide this.

 

[Mac1958]

What IF, I am correct, and the Southern Strategy is a myth?

I have no idea. I don't see how it matters right now, at this very moment.

What matters to me is that both ends of this issue refuse to look in the mirror.
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You don't think it would be relevant, if a third of the country, you thought was voting based on hate, was NOT?


You dont' think that would matter?

No, I sure don't.

Some declaration that "the Southern Strategy is a myth" would not change minds, one iota.

Minorities are far more likely to look at what they actually see, such as a President who pretends not to know who David Duke is.
.

Denouncing white supremacists is a trap for republicans, because every time we allow libs to ask us that, it supports the illusion that it is a reasonable question.


Trump tried to blow the question off. And that is what media focuses on, instead of the dozens of times in the past and since when he has denounced in one way or another, white supremacists.


The media is fucking you.


And US.


And I did not ask, what if there was a declaration that the southern strategy was a myth.


I asked you what if it truly was a myth?


What would that mean, in your opinion?

It would mean absolutely nothing, because I see what I see.

Pushing this off on the media is an old mechanism, and I can respond with "talk radio is blinding you".

If you really think that this discussion is going to change any minds, by all means, keep trying it.

It sure is easier than doing what this brave and honest man did:

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. To paraphrase Edmond Rostand….

“Now, as I end my refrain, ……thrust home!”

Time to skewer the myth of a Southern Strategy….




By the numbers we can see who got the racist vote: Democrats

George Wallace:
“Segregation Now, Segregation Forever”

George Wallace votes went to Democrats.

Wallace was a Democrat, and the same people who voted for Wallace voted Democrat...

Slavers, segregationists, and other racists.




"Four years after Goldwater, the segregationist vote went right back to Democrats: Humphrey got half of Wallace’s supporters on election day. Nixon got none of ‘em.

“When the '68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.” Pat Buchanan - The neocons & Nixon's southern strategy




Watch how Buchanan characterizes the Democrat Party:
"Richard Nixon kicked off his historic comeback in 1966 with a column on the South (by Buchanan) that declared we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the "party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice."



What did the racist party….the Democrats….do?

They authored the Southern Strategy myth.


Some fools still believe it.

No comment on why the GOP admitted to using the Southern Strategy eh?

Since they didn't use the Southern Strategy, why would anyone bring it up? You have been shown over and over that it is a lie....and yet you still cling to it...

Thats not what the 2 RNC chairmen said and thats not what Nixon said. Can you explain how you didnt know they admitted to the southern strategy?

USATODAY.com - GOP: 'We were wrong' to play racial politics


"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South.

Nonsense....


Here's the truth: the GOP won appealing to right thinking Americans.

7. Let’s blow the Democrat lie about a ‘Southern Strategy to get the racist vote’ out of the water.


Time to see just how 'racist' Nixon and the GOP were during that 'Southern Strategy' farrago.


“Tom Wicker, the progressive columnist for the New York Times, gave his appraisal of Nixon’s desegregation efforts. “There’s no doubt about it—the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years or probably since. There’s no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived, orchestrated and led the administration’s desegregation effort . . . .That effort resulted in probably the outstanding domestic achievement of his administration.”

The Nixon Administration went even further, putting into effect the nation’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions first in Philadelphia and then throughout the country. Basically, Nixon moved to kick in the closed union door and to force racist Democratic unions to admit blacks.

The progressive legal scholar Neal Devins admits that Nixon’s Philadelphia Plan is “the genesis of affirmative action in government contracting and arguably all federal affirmative action programs.” The Switch That Never Happened: How the South Really Went GOP - American Greatness



Kind of makes is laughable to try to paint the Republicans as racist, huh?

One must be quite a moron to believe that propaganda.

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. To paraphrase Edmond Rostand….

“Now, as I end my refrain, ……thrust home!”

Time to skewer the myth of a Southern Strategy….




By the numbers we can see who got the racist vote: Democrats

George Wallace:
“Segregation Now, Segregation Forever”

George Wallace votes went to Democrats.

Wallace was a Democrat, and the same people who voted for Wallace voted Democrat...

Slavers, segregationists, and other racists.




"Four years after Goldwater, the segregationist vote went right back to Democrats: Humphrey got half of Wallace’s supporters on election day. Nixon got none of ‘em.

“When the '68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.” Pat Buchanan - The neocons & Nixon's southern strategy




Watch how Buchanan characterizes the Democrat Party:
"Richard Nixon kicked off his historic comeback in 1966 with a column on the South (by Buchanan) that declared we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the "party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice."



What did the racist party….the Democrats….do?

They authored the Southern Strategy myth.


Some fools still believe it.

No comment on why the GOP admitted to using the Southern Strategy eh?

Since they didn't use the Southern Strategy, why would anyone bring it up? You have been shown over and over that it is a lie....and yet you still cling to it...

Thats not what the 2 RNC chairmen said and thats not what Nixon said. Can you explain how you didnt know they admitted to the southern strategy?

USATODAY.com - GOP: 'We were wrong' to play racial politics


"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South.

My good man, an uneducated, racist, white man claiming he is sorry for his sins and expanding it upon his peers, is no better than a racist black man, who claims every black man hates whites because they are racist!

People had better learn one truth in America------------> Whites who are racist, and blacks who are racist, are not defined white or black; they are defined racists!

Those that want to keep up the banter about racism, are really the racists, and the color of their skin does not define them, their attitude does. By the way, who claims racism constantly? Why those saintly Democrats, lol. And you know why! Because without the black vote, they couldn't be elected dogcatcher.

I contend, that Black people are being played, and the poverty pimps are helping them to be played. Look at Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit. Republicans can't get elected there as head of paperboys. Why? Because according to Democratic dogma, they HATE black people.

So tell us...…………….how many Republicans, under Republican rules, are killing Black Americans there? How many LEGAL guns were used to shoot Black children in Chicago last week? Democrats have BRAINWASHED Black America, plain and simple. They control the Black killing fields, using DEMOCRAT rules, where Black children die, and their parents can't even protect them. I see them almost every night on TV crying (because I get Chicago channels) and I honestly cry at times with them.

They have been turned into pawns by the Democrats! Their children die for votes, so the Democrats have a chance to win.

Abraham Lincoln freed these people once, and if we get a chance, we will free them again! That racist Trumps policies has Black unemployment down to an all time low. Know what, that scares the hell out of Democrats! If they are freed, they won't volunteer to stay on the Democratic plantations known as inner cities. And what is worse, once they come out of there, they might find out they are not hated, despised, or shunned. I know, I have brought 4 African Americans out of that poverty myself, and now they see things like I do, lol.

And that is why the Democrats are crapping their pants! Not because of me, but because when they get out of the lie, they see the truth!

I stopped reading your long winded deflection after two sentences went by without any mention of my point. The GOP admitted to the southern strategy. Thats it and thats all. Refute that if you can but never again deflect like that and expect me to read your deflection.

Here are facts.....

a. “Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals …. Nixon moved to kick in the closed union door and to force racist Democratic unions to admit blacks. “

The very opposite of the racism claims the Democrats put forth in that myth, “Southern Strategy.’




b. Compare that to the racism of the godfather of the Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt: FDR didn’t like any minorities, and he worked to insure the benefit of racist white labor unions:

“FDR talked Congress into … imposing the nation’s first comprehensive minimum-wage law in 1938. The minimum-wage law prices many of the inexperienced, the young, the unskilled, and the disadvantaged out of the labor market. For example, the minimum-wage provisions passed as part of another act in 1933 threw an estimated 500,000 blacks out of work.” Great Myths of the Great Depression



More evidence of the racism of the Democrat Party, and another reason to doubt the ‘Southern Strategy myth.’

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans say it was democrats who owned slaves but today it’s republicans who worship Robert e lee and fly confederate flags...and go to kkk rally’s.

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

Hard to imagine how you can put together syncretic notes.....things having nothing to do with each other....and imagine (I almost said 'think') it worth posting.

I'm a minority and before I moved to the US, me and most of the countries I traveled to ....it was a know fanct that right wings in the US are more likely to be racist.....fast forward after living here for 20 years.....its laughable to discuss which partt is more racist....one should look at the polls, most minorities vote overwhelmingly against the GOP.

What puzzles in all of this, those who are usually racist are more likely conservative Christians....how the heck can one follow jesus teachings and be racist and less compassionate ?

"....it was a know fanct (sic) that right wings in the US are more likely to be racist..."


Nothing in your post is correct.

Don't worry.....I can educate you.


Did you know any of this?

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

2. It is the party of Jefferson Davis, the KKK, Planned Parenthood, concentration camps for American citizens, and restrictions on free speech.

3. It is the party of Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree, and of James Hodgkinson, and of Communist Bernie Sanders, of pretend genders.

4. The Democrat Party is the oldest racist organization in America, the trail of tears, the author of Jim Crow and the bigotry of low expectations, filibustered against women getting the vote and killed every anti-lynching bill to get to Congress

5. The Democrat Party is the number one funder of the Islamic Revolution in Tehran….to the tune of $100 billion to the Ayatollahs….and gave Hezbollah the go-ahead to sell cocaine in America.

6. It is the party of anti-Semitism and Louis Farrakhan, and of the first Cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of Congress.

7. It is the party that admits its future depends on flooding the country with illegal aliens, and telling them to vote.

8. It is the party that couldn't suck up to the Castro Brothers enough, and treats the Bill of Rights like a Chinese menu..

9. The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.

10. The Democrats are the party that looks at the mayhem their gun laws have produced in Chicago, ……and this is their model for the nation.

11. I should mention that the Democrat Party was used as a model by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party….another ‘feather’ in the party’s cap?




Memorize it, so you appear less a fool.

So you the conservative Republican that voted for a racist wanna teach me about me (a minority) which part is anti me ? Lol

Sweet heart most anti muslims, latinos, immigrants, blacks here in this very forum are proud racist conservatives....and as I said most of us minorities we vote minorities vote against the GOP for being a racist and anti minorities party more than anything eelse.

So you don't deny any of this?????


1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

2. It is the party of Jefferson Davis, the KKK, Planned Parenthood, concentration camps for American citizens, and restrictions on free speech.

3. It is the party of Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree, and of James Hodgkinson, and of Communist Bernie Sanders, of pretend genders.

4. The Democrat Party is the oldest racist organization in America, the trail of tears, the author of Jim Crow and the bigotry of low expectations, filibustered against women getting the vote and killed every anti-lynching bill to get to Congress

5. The Democrat Party is the number one funder of the Islamic Revolution in Tehran….to the tune of $100 billion to the Ayatollahs….and gave Hezbollah the go-ahead to sell cocaine in America.

6. It is the party of anti-Semitism and Louis Farrakhan, and of the first Cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of Congress.

7. It is the party that admits its future depends on flooding the country with illegal aliens, and telling them to vote.

8. It is the party that couldn't suck up to the Castro Brothers enough, and treats the Bill of Rights like a Chinese menu..

9. The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.

10. The Democrats are the party that looks at the mayhem their gun laws have produced in Chicago, ……and this is their model for the nation.

11. I should mention that the Democrat Party was used as a model by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party….another ‘feather’ in the party’s cap?




Are you denying that you are a moron?????

 

[PoliticalChic]

After the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights Act, Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) shifted to the Republican Party.

Name all Democrat Senate and House members who "shifted". A list should be easy enough for you to find.

I'm not talking Congress-Critters crossing the aisle... I'm talking about the voting public.

Congress-Critters come and go; the voting public (and the gradual shift in their elected representation) are what counts.

Yes, it makes perfect sense that the Democrats would run to the Republican Party, who voted in greater numbers for the Civil Rights Act than did Democrats, and who even in those halcyon days - though not so diametrically opposed as today due to a certain inexplicable disbelief - considered Democrats to be Communist influenced. Members of Congress would by rights have followed their voters's sentiments to keep their jobs.

Yessir. Perfect sense.

Can we include that the Democrats blocked every anti-lynching bill to come up in the Congress.

"The lynchings were Southern whites' extrajudicial efforts to maintain social control, white supremacy, and Democratic Party rule, ..... From 1882 to 1968, "...nearly 200 anti-lynching bills were introduced in Congress, and three passed the House. Seven presidents between 1890 and 1952 petitioned Congress to pass a federal law."[10] Not one bill was approved by the Senate because of the powerful opposition of the Southern Democratic voting block."
Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill - Wikipedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

After the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights Act, Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) shifted to the Republican Party.

Name all Democrat Senate and House members who "shifted". A list should be easy enough for you to find.

I'm not talking Congress-Critters crossing the aisle... I'm talking about the voting public.

Congress-Critters come and go; the voting public (and the gradual shift in their elected representation) are what counts.

Yes, it makes perfect sense that the Democrats would run to the Republican Party, who voted in greater numbers for the Civil Rights Act than did Democrats, and who even in those halcyon days - though not so diametrically opposed as today due to a certain inexplicable disbelief - considered Democrats to be Communist influenced. Members of Congress would by rights have followed their voters's sentiments to keep their jobs.

Yessir. Perfect sense.

Northern Democrats did not jump the aisle to the Republican side during that time frame in any large numbers, only White Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats).

Dixiecrats did not become Republicans....they went right back to being racist Democrats.


Northern Democrat racists:
the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was supported by all the Republicans in the Senate, but only 29 of 47 Democrats…and a number of the ‘segregationist’ Democrats were northern Dems (Oregon, Washington, Montana, and Wyoming). Not southerners: Democrats.

a. There were plenty of southern integrationists. They were Republicans.

 

[Correll]

[ ...Yes, the south became republican, eventually. But that does not support that that was driven by race. Other factors were in play.

Oh, I'm sure that the precise answer represents a multi-faceted collection of factors.

My money is on "race" being the primary driving force behind the initial large-scale shift back in the '60s and '70s.

Yeah, I caught that.


I've researched the issue. The entire support from the Left for this idea, comes from a few quotes taken out of context from one interview years after the fact, and "code words".


It is a fucking joke. Or it would be, if it was not causing so much damage.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...It is illogical and not factual in the extreme to claim the southern Democrats "jumped the aisle" to the Republicans when it was the Republicans who voted into law the act that raised the Democrat's ire. Everett Dirkson rammed it right down their throats.

Fifty years of Election Results maps make for an easy-to-digest lesson in modern Southern voting patterns...

The elections of 1964 and most especially 1968 were particularly revealing, immediately after the signing of the Civil Rights Act...

50 Years of Electoral College Maps: How the U.S. Turned Red and Blue

Read 'em and weep...

Next batter, please.

Here, the reasons:


Reagan and the Southern vote….


There was no ‘Southern Racist Strategy’ that turned the South. Fact is, most of them Southerners voted based on entirely different issues than race…and these were Republican issues.


a.The increasingly industrial ‘New South’ saw the benefits of a free market economy.


b. The patriotic anti-communist, and law-and-order platform appealed to most Americans.



c. The trend continued, and by “the late 1970s and through the 1980s, in response to the Reaganite appeal to free-market capitalism, patriotism, pro-life, school prayer, family values.


These economic and social issues were far more central to Reagan’s message than race, and they struck a chord beyond—no less than within—the South.”
The Switch That Never Happened: How the South Really Went GOP - American Greatness




The Democrat Party of Jefferson Davis, Bull Connor, and Bill Clinton has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship. The ‘Southern Strategy’ claim is an attempt to hid this.





Looks like I just hit one out of the park.....take a seat.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Name all Democrat Senate and House members who "shifted". A list should be easy enough for you to find.

I'm not talking Congress-Critters crossing the aisle... I'm talking about the voting public.

Congress-Critters come and go; the voting public (and the gradual shift in their elected representation) are what counts.

Yes, it makes perfect sense that the Democrats would run to the Republican Party, who voted in greater numbers for the Civil Rights Act than did Democrats, and who even in those halcyon days - though not so diametrically opposed as today due to a certain inexplicable disbelief - considered Democrats to be Communist influenced. Members of Congress would by rights have followed their voters's sentiments to keep their jobs.

Yessir. Perfect sense.

Northern Democrats did not jump the aisle to the Republican side during that time frame in any large numbers, only White Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats).

It is illogical and not factual in the extreme to claim the southern Democrats "jumped the aisle" to the Republicans when it was the Republicans who voted into law the act that raised the Democrat's ire. Everett Dirkson rammed it right down their throats.

How did they all become Republican then? Republicans saw a golden opportunity in the south. They sold their soul to the racists for political power.

So glad you asked.
Prosperity, anti-communism, and anti-racism shifted the vote from Democrat to Republican.

Reagan and the Southern vote….


There was no ‘Southern Racist Strategy’ that turned the South. Fact is, most of them Southerners voted based on entirely different issues than race…and these were Republican issues.


a.The increasingly industrial ‘New South’ saw the benefits of a free market economy.


b. The patriotic anti-communist, and law-and-order platform appealed to most Americans.



c. The trend continued, and by “the late 1970s and through the 1980s, in response to the Reaganite appeal to free-market capitalism, patriotism, pro-life, school prayer, family values.


These economic and social issues were far more central to Reagan’s message than race, and they struck a chord beyond—no less than within—the South.”
The Switch That Never Happened: How the South Really Went GOP - American Greatness




The Democrat Party of Jefferson Davis, Bull Connor, and Bill Clinton has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship. The ‘Southern Strategy’ claim is an attempt to hid this.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Timmy, are you going to respond to this review of the the history of the Democrat Party???

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

2. It is the party of Jefferson Davis, the KKK, Planned Parenthood, concentration camps for American citizens, and restrictions on free speech.

3. It is the party of Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree, and of James Hodgkinson, and of Communist Bernie Sanders, of pretend genders.

4. The Democrat Party is the oldest racist organization in America, the trail of tears, the author of Jim Crow and the bigotry of low expectations, filibustered against women getting the vote and killed every anti-lynching bill to get to Congress

5. The Democrat Party is the number one funder of the Islamic Revolution in Tehran….to the tune of $100 billion to the Ayatollahs….and gave Hezbollah the go-ahead to sell cocaine in America.

6. It is the party of anti-Semitism and Louis Farrakhan, and of the first Cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of Congress.

7. It is the party that admits its future depends on flooding the country with illegal aliens, and telling them to vote.

8. It is the party that couldn't suck up to the Castro Brothers enough, and treats the Bill of Rights like a Chinese menu..

9. The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.

10. The Democrats are the party that looks at the mayhem their gun laws have produced in Chicago, ……and this is their model for the nation.

11. I should mention that the Democrat Party was used as a model by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party….another ‘feather’ in the party’s cap?

So you will NOT address the Lincoln electoral map. I understand. It is devastating to your case .

There isn't a single post of mine that you could dispute.

Cut and paste all the gibberish you want .

YOU refuse to address the electoral map . Why ? Because it shows that it’s the liberals who elected Lincoln and the conservative states that were pro slavery . Those are facts!

You can not call the people who supported slavery conservatives in fact it takes a Liberal interpretation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights to justify the institution the same way modern Liberal interpretation suggest that freedom of speech doesn't cover the things people like yourself deem hurtful and of course there's the leftwing take on the 2nd Amendment.

Yes. You can call them conservatives. Conservatives conserve the status quo.

No, you dunce.....conservatives, classical liberals, the Founders,formed a nation based on

All men are created equal

And

Consent of the governed



Clearly, slavery is inimical to those beliefs.


Democrats thrived on slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.





Did you know that FDR refused to sign the anti-lynching bill?

And picked a KKKer for his first Supreme Court nominee?


There's a great deal you don't know......that's why I'm here.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Timmy, are you going to respond to this review of the the history of the Democrat Party???

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

2. It is the party of Jefferson Davis, the KKK, Planned Parenthood, concentration camps for American citizens, and restrictions on free speech.

3. It is the party of Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree, and of James Hodgkinson, and of Communist Bernie Sanders, of pretend genders.

4. The Democrat Party is the oldest racist organization in America, the trail of tears, the author of Jim Crow and the bigotry of low expectations, filibustered against women getting the vote and killed every anti-lynching bill to get to Congress

5. The Democrat Party is the number one funder of the Islamic Revolution in Tehran….to the tune of $100 billion to the Ayatollahs….and gave Hezbollah the go-ahead to sell cocaine in America.

6. It is the party of anti-Semitism and Louis Farrakhan, and of the first Cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of Congress.

7. It is the party that admits its future depends on flooding the country with illegal aliens, and telling them to vote.

8. It is the party that couldn't suck up to the Castro Brothers enough, and treats the Bill of Rights like a Chinese menu..

9. The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.

10. The Democrats are the party that looks at the mayhem their gun laws have produced in Chicago, ……and this is their model for the nation.

11. I should mention that the Democrat Party was used as a model by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party….another ‘feather’ in the party’s cap?

So you will NOT address the Lincoln electoral map. I understand. It is devastating to your case .

There isn't a single post of mine that you could dispute.

Cut and paste all the gibberish you want .

YOU refuse to address the electoral map . Why ? Because it shows that it’s the liberals who elected Lincoln and the conservative states that were pro slavery . Those are facts!

You can not call the people who supported slavery conservatives in fact it takes a Liberal interpretation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights to justify the institution the same way modern Liberal interpretation suggest that freedom of speech doesn't cover the things people like yourself deem hurtful and of course there's the leftwing take on the 2nd Amendment.

You can if you use the english language. Why dont you post what conservative means and what liberal means in the english language. I guarantee you that if you have any intellect at all you will see that conservatives dont want the status quo to change and liberals are progressives.

"Why dont you post what conservative means"


No prob.

.....conservatives, classical liberals, the Founders,formed a nation based on

All men are created equal

And

Consent of the governed



Clearly, slavery is inimical to those beliefs.


Democrats thrived on slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.





Did you know that FDR refused to sign the anti-lynching bill?

And picked a KKKer for his first Supreme Court nominee?