O’Rourke Assures Everyone: Yes, I Will Take Your Guns Away

Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.
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Registration is confiscation dumbass

Registration is absolutely unconstitutional, the government has no right to know anything about personal firearm ownership. You need to wake up if you think registration The least bit reasonable...

Federal government has no moral authority
Again, my guns are registered, and have been for years now, and last I checked them in my safe I still have them. Now there could be a new fear realized in it all, and this due to the sharp left that the liberals have taken, and their using things in ways that were never intended in the ways they now are intending for them to be used. No dummy here, so getting angry doesn't help your debate skills much.
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You can register your firearms all you want and to anybody you want… But you can fuck off if you think you have the right to tell anyone else to register their firearms.

The federal government should have absolutely no idea of personal fire ownership… They have absolutely no moral authority on the matter.
Why would you think that I would want firearm registration by legal responsible firearms owners ?? I am the least of your worries, so don't focus on me. I'm just thinking ahead, and seeing the reactions to it. They're gonna want something, so what do we give them ?? Giving them something they already have, makes me feel as if they get nothing from me that they don't already have. Not sure where this bullcrap ends, but this nation needs to get control of the situation with these shooters fast.
 
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Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.


The only reason to register guns is to confiscate them...there is no other reason to do it. If your gun is in your home, no one else has the right to tell you what else to do with that gun....
All my guns are registered, and they have been registered for years. Don't see a problem with it myself. Sure would help if one was stolen, and it was used in a crime. Would at least help in the investigation by being registered.
:fu:
Got a point or is this a sign of losing the debate ? Don't fear these things, because that is exactly what the left wants you to do. It just sweetens their victory when they come for your weapon's due your loss for words. Best to beat them at the game instead of getting angry about it. Keeping our weapon's at this point is the only agreement we all have, and letting the left get there way due to our rigid stance in the face of these shootings is what we don't want, but anger is not the debate device to be used against the situation. Hey if I can think of these things, then surely they can. Best to get to the line before they do, and get it done before they do. I'm not thinking of anything they aren't, so it best to cut them off at the pass by closing their lanes of travel to our privacy down fast . Right now we are under a republican administration, so if we are to give on anything, now is the time to do it if we have to do it. Would you agree ??

Under a Democrat administration I cringe to think of what's coming. We must keep Trump in office. Trust me I agree with you that enough is enough on the attacks on us and our privacy, but they won't stop.
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Slippery slope, Trust in the federal government is always an lose, lose action.
Compromise is the easiest way to get fucked over.
With the leftist in play, yep you are right. Agree.
 
Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.
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Registration is confiscation dumbass

Registration is absolutely unconstitutional, the government has no right to know anything about personal firearm ownership. You need to wake up if you think registration The least bit reasonable...

Federal government has no moral authority
Again, my guns are registered, and have been for years now, and last I checked them in my safe I still have them. Now there could be a new fear realized in it all, and this due to the sharp left that the liberals have taken, and their using things in ways that were never intended in the ways they now are intending for them to be used. No dummy here, so getting angry doesn't help your debate skills much.
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You can register your firearms all you want and to anybody you want… But you can fuck off if you think you have the right to tell anyone else to register their firearms.

The federal government should have absolutely no idea of personal fire ownership… They have absolutely no moral authority on the matter.
Why would you think that I would want firearm registration by legal responsible firearms owners ?? I am the least of your worries, so don't focus on me. I'm just thinking ahead, and seeing the reactions to it. They're gonna want something, so what do we give them ?? Giving them something they already have, makes me feel as if they get nothing from me that they don't already have. Not sure where this bullcrap ends, but this nation needs to get control of the situation with these shooters fast.
More people die every year from lawnmowing accidents than from people using ARs to kill people.
But that does not grab the headlines… that the main stream media loves.
Political correctness makes people fucking retarded...
 
Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.
Lol
Registration is confiscation dumbass

Registration is absolutely unconstitutional, the government has no right to know anything about personal firearm ownership. You need to wake up if you think registration The least bit reasonable...

Federal government has no moral authority
Again, my guns are registered, and have been for years now, and last I checked them in my safe I still have them. Now there could be a new fear realized in it all, and this due to the sharp left that the liberals have taken, and their using things in ways that were never intended in the ways they now are intending for them to be used. No dummy here, so getting angry doesn't help your debate skills much.
Lol
You can register your firearms all you want and to anybody you want… But you can fuck off if you think you have the right to tell anyone else to register their firearms.

The federal government should have absolutely no idea of personal fire ownership… They have absolutely no moral authority on the matter.
Why would you think that I would want firearm registration by legal responsible firearms owners ?? I am the least of your worries, so don't focus on me. I'm just thinking ahead, and seeing the reactions to it. They're gonna want something, so what do we give them ?? Giving them something they already have, makes me feel as if they get nothing from me that they don't already have. Not sure where this bullcrap ends, but this nation needs to get control of the situation with these shooters fast.
More people die every year from lawnmowing accidents than from people using ARs to kill people.
But that does not grab the headlines… that the main stream media loves.
Political correctness makes people fucking retarded...
True, but people put lawnmowers into an entirely different category than people killing people in surprise mass shootings with guns. You know how it is, where as people are going to see one thing as being far different than the other. Taking these criminals, and hanging their ace whether dead or alive into the public square, and letting the buzzard's pick their flesh from their bodies as they hang there for all to see is a good idea at this point in time, but no they (the leftist) want to punish us all for political reasons, and by using these incidents they want to do so.
 
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Registration is confiscation dumbass

Registration is absolutely unconstitutional, the government has no right to know anything about personal firearm ownership. You need to wake up if you think registration The least bit reasonable...

Federal government has no moral authority
Again, my guns are registered, and have been for years now, and last I checked them in my safe I still have them. Now there could be a new fear realized in it all, and this due to the sharp left that the liberals have taken, and their using things in ways that were never intended in the ways they now are intending for them to be used. No dummy here, so getting angry doesn't help your debate skills much.
Lol
You can register your firearms all you want and to anybody you want… But you can fuck off if you think you have the right to tell anyone else to register their firearms.

The federal government should have absolutely no idea of personal fire ownership… They have absolutely no moral authority on the matter.
Why would you think that I would want firearm registration by legal responsible firearms owners ?? I am the least of your worries, so don't focus on me. I'm just thinking ahead, and seeing the reactions to it. They're gonna want something, so what do we give them ?? Giving them something they already have, makes me feel as if they get nothing from me that they don't already have. Not sure where this bullcrap ends, but this nation needs to get control of the situation with these shooters fast.
More people die every year from lawnmowing accidents than from people using ARs to kill people.
But that does not grab the headlines… that the main stream media loves.
Political correctness makes people fucking retarded...
True, but people put lawnmowers into an entirely different category than people killing people in surprise mass shootings with guns. You know how it is, where as people are going to see one thing as being far different than the other. Taking these criminals, and hanging their ace whether dead or alive into the public square, and letting the buzzard's pick their flesh from their bodies as they hang there for all to see is a good idea at this point in time, but no they (the leftist) want to punish us all for political reasons, and by using these incidents they want to do so.
Yes, they do. But no one has an “right” to own a lawn mower. And lawnmowers are not a threat to the federal government. The backbone of the constitution is the second amendment, it’s the only amendment that has any teeth to it.
The sole purpose of this latest gun grabbing attempt is to get rid of the Second Amendment all together. Because it’s impossible to control the population When they have the right to protect themselves.

Compromise is never the answer
 
A reporter asked Beto in Charlottesville how he’d reassure people afraid the gov’t would take their assault weapons away.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” he said. If you own an AK-47 or AR-15, “you’ll have to sell them to the government.”

And they call Trump Hitler.

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Can I keep my pump action shotgun that can fire six rounds of buck shot?

You get where I am going with this, right?

If not a shotgun with a short barrel in legal length can do a hell of a lot damage if used properly and yet the left will ignore that and worry about a sporting semi-automatic rifle instead...

I bet Beto think the Ar-15 is fully automatic...
The left worries about the gun, because they can't stop the monsters they are creating. Their embarrassment is overwhelming these days. They either create these monsters from the left or create them on the right, but one thing they both right and left have at the core of their issues, and that is the left as the instigator's.

Banning firearms will never stop criminals but hell they know this and just want you and I to have no firearm when they tell us who we will vote for or be killed for resisting...

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I doubt that people would resist tanks, helicopters, with their arms. The government can do what they like if they have support from the military masses.
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First of all the federal government would not use the military, that’s not the way it works they would use that FBI, federal marshals, ATF etc.
Second of all the military is overwhelmingly pro second amendment they would not go against their own you stupid ass motherfucker
With all the dumbfuck Millenials and foreigners in the military, dont be so sure. We always hear the same about how police wont be confiscating guns but they are doing it in many places.
 
A reporter asked Beto in Charlottesville how he’d reassure people afraid the gov’t would take their assault weapons away.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” he said. If you own an AK-47 or AR-15, “you’ll have to sell them to the government.”

And they call Trump Hitler.

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Idiots like you should never own a weapon

^^Authoritarian**. This is a prime example of how an oppressive govt works. Boot on the neck and tell YOU how to live your life. This is the danger that is transpiring.
 
Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.


The only reason to register guns is to confiscate them...there is no other reason to do it. If your gun is in your home, no one else has the right to tell you what else to do with that gun....
All my guns are registered, and they have been registered for years. Don't see a problem with it myself. Sure would help if one was stolen, and it was used in a crime. Would at least help in the investigation by being registered.


No...it doesn't help solve crimes......they have gun registration around the country in various places and they don't solve crimes.....the only reason to register guns is for later confiscation.....we know this from Britain, France, Germany, Australia, Canada, New York, California......

Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up

15 million guns.....1 billion dollars...and it didn't work....



The law passed and starting in 1998 Canadians were required to have a license to own firearms and register their weapons with the government. According to Canadian researcher (and gun enthusiast) Gary Mauser, the Canada Firearms Center quickly rose to 600 employees and the cost of the effort climbed past $600 million. In 2002 Canada’s auditor general released a report saying initial cost estimates of $2 million (Canadian) had increased to $1 billion as the government tried to register the estimated 15 million guns owned by Canada’s 34 million residents.

The registry was plagued with complications like duplicate serial numbers and millions of incomplete records, Mauser reports. One person managed to register a soldering gun, demonstrating the lack of precise standards. And overshadowing the effort was the suspicion of misplaced effort: Pistols were used in 66% of gun homicides in 2011, yet they represent about 6% of the guns in Canada. Legal long guns were used in 11% of killings that year, according to Statistics Canada, while illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, which by definition cannot be registered, were used in another 12%.

So the government was spending the bulk of its money — about $17 million of the Firearms Center’s $82 million annual budget — trying to register long guns when the statistics showed they weren’t the problem.

There was also the question of how registering guns was supposed to reduce crime and suicide in the first place. From 1997 to 2005, only 13% of the guns used in homicides were registered. Police studies in Canada estimated that 2-16% of guns used in crimes were stolen from legal owners and thus potentially in the registry. The bulk of the guns, Canadian officials concluded, were unregistered weapons imported illegally from the U.S. by criminal gangs.

Finally in 2011, conservatives led by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper voted to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all its records. Liberals argued the law had contributed to the decline in gun homicides since it was passed. But Mauser notes that gun homicides have actually been rising in recent years, from 151 in 1999 to 173 in 2009, as violent criminal gangs use guns in their drug turf wars and other disputes. As in the U.S., most gun homicides in Canada are committed by young males, many of them with criminal records. In the majority of homicides involving young males, the victim and the killer are know each other.



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Ten Myths Of The Long Gun Registry | Canadian Shooting Sports Association


Myth #4: Police investigations are aided by the registry.
Doubtful. Information contained in the registry is incomplete and unreliable. Due to the inaccuracy of the information, it cannot be used as evidence in court and the government has yet to prove that it has been a contributing factor in any investigation. Another factor is the dismal compliance rate (estimated at only 50%) for licensing and registration which further renders the registry useless. Some senior police officers have stated as such: “The law registering firearms has neither deterred these crimes nor helped us solve any of them. None of the guns we know to have been used were registered ... the money could be more effectively used for security against terrorism as well as a host of other public safety initiatives.” Former Toronto Police Chief Julian Fantino, January 2003.




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https://www.quora.com/In-countries-...olved-at-least-in-part-by-use-of-the-registry



Tracking physical objects that are easily transferred with a database is non-trivial problem. Guns that are stolen, loaned, or lost disappear from the registry. The data is has to be manually entered and input mistakes will both leak guns and generate false positive results.

Registries don’t solve straw-purchases. If someone goes through all of the steps to register a gun and simply gives it to a criminal that gun becomes unregistered. Assuming the gun is ever recovered you could theoretically try and prosecute the person who transferred the gun to the criminal, but you aren’t solving the crime you were trying to. Remember that people will prostitute themselves or even their children for drugs, so how much deterrence is there in a maybe-get-a-few-years for straw purchasing?

Registries are expensive. Canada’s registry was pitched as costing the taxpayer $2 million and the rest of the costs were to be payed for with registration fees. It was subject to massive cost overruns that were not being met by registrations fees. When the program was audited in 2002 the program was expected to cost over $1 billion and that the fee revenue was only expected to be $140 million.

No gun recovered. If no gun was recovered at the scene of the crime then your registry isn’t even theoretically helping, let alone providing a practical tool. You need a world where criminals meticulously register their guns and leave them at the crime scene for a registry to start to become useful.

Say I have a registered gun, and a known associate of mine was shot and killed. Ballistics is able to determine that my known associate was killed with the same make and model as the gun I registered. A registry doesn’t prove that my gun was used, or that I was the one doing the shooting. I was a suspect as soon as we said “known associate” and the police will then being looking for motive and checking for my alibi.
 
Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.

Registration? Are you serious?

Registration is the first step to confiscation.
Still got my registered guns, and they have been registered for years.


It took the Germans 20 years to confiscate the guns they registered, and in Britain it took far longer, but eventually, they confiscated guns.......
 
Registration, safe keeping, and responsibility should be the only burdens placed upon legal gun owners, but never confiscation.

The problem in this country, is that we have two totally opposed parties attempting to beat up on each other every election now, and dpending on who gets control, then of course we end up suffering the consequences of it all. It's time for the majority to be recognized in this country again, and I mean the moral majority, and not these agenda driven drones that are hopeful that someday as a minority group and/or groups that they will force the majority by any means nessesary to see things in their way or else. Wake up American's.


The only reason to register guns is to confiscate them...there is no other reason to do it. If your gun is in your home, no one else has the right to tell you what else to do with that gun....
All my guns are registered, and they have been registered for years. Don't see a problem with it myself. Sure would help if one was stolen, and it was used in a crime. Would at least help in the investigation by being registered.
:fu:
Got a point or is this a sign of losing the debate ? Don't fear these things, because that is exactly what the left wants you to do. It just sweetens their victory when they come for your weapon's due your loss for words. Best to beat them at the game instead of getting angry about it. Keeping our weapon's at this point is the only agreement we all have, and letting the left get there way due to our rigid stance in the face of these shootings is what we don't want, but anger is not the debate device to be used against the situation. Hey if I can think of these things, then surely they can. Best to get to the line before they do, and get it done before they do. I'm not thinking of anything they aren't, so it best to cut them off at the pass by closing their lanes of travel to our privacy down fast . Right now we are under a republican administration, so if we are to give on anything, now is the time to do it if we have to do it. Would you agree ??

Under a Democrat administration I cringe to think of what's coming. We must keep Trump in office. Trust me I agree with you that enough is enough on the attacks on us and our privacy, but they won't stop.


Wrong..... the only end point is banning private ownership of guns...that is what they want and they will fight that battle in inches and yards until they win. If you give them something now, thinking they will be appeased, you are fooling yourself. Each ban leads to the next one when the last ban or confiscation didn't stop gun crime or mass shootings.....so no, we have to fight each and every step....
 
A reporter asked Beto in Charlottesville how he’d reassure people afraid the gov’t would take their assault weapons away.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” he said. If you own an AK-47 or AR-15, “you’ll have to sell them to the government.”

And they call Trump Hitler.

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Pretty sure they'll never do a confiscation, but if you get caught with one after a certain amount of time, there will probably be hell to pay. If you can't play with it, why have it? Oh, never mind....I know. In case you need to fight the government or a gang of a dozen criminals bursts into your home.
 
A reporter asked Beto in Charlottesville how he’d reassure people afraid the gov’t would take their assault weapons away.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” he said. If you own an AK-47 or AR-15, “you’ll have to sell them to the government.”

And they call Trump Hitler.

Twitter
Don't see that is will happen. Why? City's are not going to enforce Federal law. The people will not give them up. So many guns have been traded and sold to people who have died that there is not a way to find them. I bet I have own and gotten rid of over fifty guns long and short in the last 50 years. So good luck Feds.

This is an excellent point. Local jurisdictions aren’t enforcing Federal Immigration Laws. How and why are they going to enforce Beto Law?
 
A reporter asked Beto in Charlottesville how he’d reassure people afraid the gov’t would take their assault weapons away.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” he said. If you own an AK-47 or AR-15, “you’ll have to sell them to the government.”

And they call Trump Hitler.

Twitter
Pretty sure they'll never do a confiscation, but if you get caught with one after a certain amount of time, there will probably be hell to pay. If you can't play with it, why have it? Oh, never mind....I know. In case you need to fight the government or a gang of a dozen criminals bursts into your home.


What you have failed to understand is that it isn't just about the AR-15. The AR-15s operating system is the same system as every other semi-auto rifle, pistol and shotgun, and essentially every revolver as well. When they get the AR-15 banned, they will not simply say that that is enough, we got that evil gun, they will come back and say, if the AR-15 can be banned because of the way it operates, then no one can own any other semi-automatic rifle, pistol, shotgun or revolver. That is the issue.

Then, when they get those, they will come back for the bolt action rifles...because they actually are military weapons. They will come for the pump action shotgun, because they actually are military weapons.......so you simply do not understand the issue.
 
Yes MAGA
The FBI used Oregon’s new “red flag” law to seize guns from a former Marine who allegedly threatened to “slaughter” antifa demonstrators at a Portland rally earlier this month, The Oregonian reported Friday.

The statute allows law enforcement to take proactive action to stop violence before any crime has been committed. Such laws are being advanced in various states as a way to begin to deal more effectively with America’s burgeoning mass shooting toll.

Former Marine Shane Kohfield — in a red MAGA hat with a knife strapped to his shoulder at the time — allegedly made the threat on a loudspeaker outside the home of Portland’s mayor in July.

Within days agents seized Kohfield’s weapons. They relied on the red flag law that went into effect early this year that allowed them to temporarily take possession of the guns even though Kohfield hadn’t committed a crime, the newspaper reported. The statute allows law enforcement, family members or roommates to petition a judge for an “extreme risk protection order” that bars a targeted individual from gun possession.

Phil Lemman, Oregon’s acting deputy state court administrator, said Kohfield surrendered five guns, including an AR-15.

Kohfield, who served two tours of duty in Iran, was also taken to a veterans hospital in Portland, where he spent 20 days. He was not charged with a crime — but he was also not allowed to attend the August demonstration staged by the white nationalist Proud Boys, which drew antifa counter-protesters.
Making threats against anyone should of course disqualify one's right to be armed until an evaluation is done on the individual.

I have to agree that anyone threatening others should be investigated as to their mental state of mind in which caused the person to make threats against another.

There are ways to defeat political opponents, and it is called the ballot box. People must get out and vote to get change. No more sitting around thinking it's other people's duty to vote, and not theirs.
And stop suppressing the vote The idea is to get as many legal voters voting not the least like one party wants
 
A reporter asked Beto in Charlottesville how he’d reassure people afraid the gov’t would take their assault weapons away.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” he said. If you own an AK-47 or AR-15, “you’ll have to sell them to the government.”

And they call Trump Hitler.

Twitter
Don't see that is will happen. Why? City's are not going to enforce Federal law. The people will not give them up. So many guns have been traded and sold to people who have died that there is not a way to find them. I bet I have own and gotten rid of over fifty guns long and short in the last 50 years. So good luck Feds.

This is an excellent point. Local jurisdictions aren’t enforcing Federal Immigration Laws. How and why are they going to enforce Beto Law?


They need illegal immigrants for more power. They need to ban guns for more power.

Besides...all they have to do is get the law in place...they don't have to go door to door to get the guns. All they have to do is wait......you have a problem with the neighbors loud music, you call the police and they come to your house to file the report....oh, by the way, we see that you have a rifle and you didn't turn it in...you are now under arrest and are charged with a felony gun violation.

You are driving 40 in a 30mph zone..... the officer asks for license and registration....when he comes back to your car he states that you have a gun that wasn't turned in, please step out of the car he is placing you under arrest for felony gun violations.....

That is how they will make it work......no door to door, you will just be afraid to have any interaction with the police....

It is also why they want gun registration so bad.....
 

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