Out like Flynn - National Security Advisor countdown

[Auld Phart]

They could certainly talk about what the next administration would do.

NOPE.

lol Of course they could.

§953. Private correspondence with foreign governments
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Flynn told the Russian ambassador to calm down, that the sanctions would be lifted once Trump got into office. That's nearly word for word, what a private citizen can't do.

Flynn told the Russian ambassador to calm down, that the sanctions would be lifted once Trump got into office.

 

[toomuchtime_]

They could certainly talk about what the next administration would do.

NOPE.

lol Of course they could.

§953. Private correspondence with foreign governments
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Flynn told the Russian ambassador to calm down, that the sanctions would be lifted once Trump got into office.

The Logan Act doesn't apply since they were talking about the next US government, not the present (Obama's) one, and no one takes the Logan Act seriously. In over 200 years since it passed as an act of political vindictiveness only one person has ever been indicted under it and no one has ever been prosecuted under it because no one takes it seriously.

 

[rat pack]

I got tired of anonymous sources decades ago

Like Mark Felt?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

BOY HOWDY! Neither Flynn or Trump could do anything about the sanctions any more than Reagan could free our hostages in Iran before he took office.....just more butt-sore belly-aching by you losers.

That's the reason it's illegal. You can't represent the USA, until you represent the USA. Private citizens are not allowed to negotiate with foreign governments on behalf of the US. There's laws against it.

Obumble's NWO Violated Russia's Monroe Doctrine

There weren't any negotiations. Flynn advised the Russians not to retaliate against Obama's provocations because Trump would take a new attitude if he gets elected. Trump didn't want to inherit an angry Russia, just a wait-and-see one.

 

[rat pack]

The Logan Act doesn't apply since they were talking about the next US government, not the present (Obama's) one, and no one takes the Logan Act seriously. In over 200 years since it passed as an act of political vindictiveness only one person has ever been indicted under it and no one has ever been prosecuted under it because no one takes it seriously.

The logan act applies, and that it hasn't been used is based on the burden of proof. When two people hold a private conversation that violates the act, the only people who can testify to it, are the people in the room, so getting evidence was an almost impossible burden.

Now bring in modern technology and the NSA. In this case they were the fly on the wall, recording every word of what went on between Flynn and the Russian ambassador. The witness in this case is the SIGNIT data of the phone call.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

How much longer for General Flynn

Four years at least.

Not a chance. He will be out within weeks if not sooner.

 

[rat pack]

There weren't any negotiations. Flynn advised the Russians not to retaliate against Obama's provocations because Trump would take a new attitude if he gets elected. Trump didn't want to inherit an angry Russia, just a wait-and-see one.

You just made the case: ... carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government

1. The phone call was the intercourse
2. The conduct influenced was not to retaliate.

Any first year law student could successfully prosecute the case based on your version.

 

[yiostheoy]

if Flynn only lied to the American people and only lied to the Vice President of the USA but was told to do such by the President, then the president will keep him.

I think DJT will be loyal to the man.

But on the other hand Schumer may call for impeachment hearings.

But he probably won't get them.

The GOP is in a strong position to circle their wagons on any issue.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The Logan Act doesn't apply since they were talking about the next US government, not the present (Obama's) one, and no one takes the Logan Act seriously. In over 200 years since it passed as an act of political vindictiveness only one person has ever been indicted under it and no one has ever been prosecuted under it because no one takes it seriously.

The logan act applies, and that it hasn't been used is based on the burden of proof. When two people hold a private conversation that violates the act, the only people who can testify to it, are the people in the room, so getting evidence was an almost impossible burden.

Now bring in modern technology and the NSA. In this case they were the fly on the wall, recording every word of what went on between Flynn and the Russian ambassador. The witness in this case is the SIGNIT data of the phone call.

The Logan Act hasn't been used because no one ever took it seriously. It wasn't taken seriously at the time it was passed.

 

[toomuchtime_]

How much longer for General Flynn

Four years at least.

Not a chance. He will be out within weeks if not sooner.

If he is it will be because he acted without Trump's approval, not because there was anything wrong with talking to the Russian ambassador.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I got it. But like the British dossier, or any other classified information, the public will only get the declassified version.

Soros paying you a dime a word for this horseshit?

"Soros" is alt-right code for "Jews".

No, Soros is code for traitor. He is not a Progressive, but seeks to tap into the Progressive Movement to achieve his revolution.

Preppy Progressives

No, he's a political pedophile. He gets all his ideas from the loudest, most conceited. and most influential brats of the youngest generation, whom he is smitten by. His idolized boytoys have a Born to Rule attitude, which suckers him into believing they are natural leaders.

 

[rat pack]

The Logan Act hasn't been used because no one ever took it seriously. It wasn't taken seriously at the time it was passed.

There was an outrage over Logans behavior. And as often follows somebody screaming "there ought to be a law." there was. And it continues on the books to this day. You also can't hitch a mule outside the governors mansion in California.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The Logan Act hasn't been used because no one ever took it seriously. It wasn't taken seriously at the time it was passed.

There was an outrage over Logans behavior. And as often follows somebody screaming "there ought to be a law." there was. And it continues on the books to this day. You also can't hitch a mule outside the governors mansion in California.

So your point is only a jackass would take the Logan Act seriously?

 

[rat pack]

If he is it will be because he acted without Trump's approval, not because there was anything wrong with talking to the Russian ambassador.

In this case Trumps approval would make Trump a co-conspirator to commit a federal felony. And as was often talked about when it came to Bill Clinton, the president can't pardon himself.

 

[rat pack]

So your point is only a jackass would take the Logan Act seriously?

It was last amended in 1994.

 

[Auld Phart]

I got tired of anonymous sources decades ago

Like Mark Felt?

Mark Felt released the information on Flynn?

how did he do it?

Crystal Ball?

Séance?

 

[toomuchtime_]

If he is it will be because he acted without Trump's approval, not because there was anything wrong with talking to the Russian ambassador.

In this case Trumps approval would make Trump a co-conspirator to commit a federal felony. And as was often talked about when it came to Bill Clinton, the president can't pardon himself.

lol If you're not trying to be funny, get some help, quick!

 

[rat pack]

I got tired of anonymous sources decades ago

Like Mark Felt?

Mark Felt released the information on Flynn?

how did he do it?

Crystal Ball?

Séance?

Change your name to Alicia Silverstone. You're clueless.

 

[Auld Phart]

I got tired of anonymous sources decades ago

Like Mark Felt?

Mark Felt released the information on Flynn?

how did he do it?

Crystal Ball?

Séance?

Change your name to Alicia Silverstone. You're clueless.

Won't it get confusing with both of us using the same name?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Logan Act doesn't apply since they were talking about the next US government, not the present (Obama's) one, and no one takes the Logan Act seriously. In over 200 years since it passed as an act of political vindictiveness only one person has ever been indicted under it and no one has ever been prosecuted under it because no one takes it seriously.

The logan act applies, and that it hasn't been used is based on the burden of proof. When two people hold a private conversation that violates the act, the only people who can testify to it, are the people in the room, so getting evidence was an almost impossible burden.

Now bring in modern technology and the NSA. In this case they were the fly on the wall, recording every word of what went on between Flynn and the Russian ambassador. The witness in this case is the SIGNIT data of the phone call.

Spooks in the Closet

The Dhimmicrats' NSA wants to blackmail the America First Administration into going back to its failed and corrupt NWO policies.