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The need for voter id laws are based more illusion than fact.
IF that were true, you wouldn't fight them.
democrats fight voter ID because you rely on fraud. If there truly were no fraud, you wouldn't bother objecting, as ID would be irrelevant. But you know the requirement for ID will stop impersonation fraud and multiple precinct votes. Fraud is a huge part of the election strategy of democrats - perhaps a fundamental aspect, without which democrats could not win elections.
When they take off dead people? No.
When they take off people "because they moved apartments" or "because they're in a different precinct now"? Yes.
When you change adresses you may change voter districts. Its your responsibility to correct this. If you are at an improper address and the rolls note that, you should be removed. Its not that hard to get back on.
I think the proper thing to do would be remove them immediately following the next election. Doing it 1-2 months prior is BS.
The need for voter id laws are based more illusion than fact.
IF that were true, you wouldn't fight them.
democrats fight voter ID because you rely on fraud. If there truly were no fraud, you wouldn't bother objecting, as ID would be irrelevant. But you know the requirement for ID will stop impersonation fraud and multiple precinct votes. Fraud is a huge part of the election strategy of democrats - perhaps a fundamental aspect, without which democrats could not win elections.
How does voter ID stop multiple precinct votes? And democrats fight voter ID laws because they target minorities and lower income people specifically, while actually accomplishing little else. Voter fraud is not an issue because there isn't enough voter fraud to begin with.
IF that were true, you wouldn't fight them.
democrats fight voter ID because you rely on fraud. If there truly were no fraud, you wouldn't bother objecting, as ID would be irrelevant. But you know the requirement for ID will stop impersonation fraud and multiple precinct votes. Fraud is a huge part of the election strategy of democrats - perhaps a fundamental aspect, without which democrats could not win elections.
How does voter ID stop multiple precinct votes? And democrats fight voter ID laws because they target minorities and lower income people specifically, while actually accomplishing little else. Voter fraud is not an issue because there isn't enough voter fraud to begin with.
It forces a person who wants to vote in multiple places to use a fake ID, which is another crime, and easier to track than simple voter fraud where no ID is used.
Photo id should be required and absentee ballots must be banned. Vote fraud and vote selling is everywhere.
Commonwealth Court Judge Bernard L. McGinley, a Democrat, said the law would unreasonably burden the fundamental right to vote, and the state had been unable to convincingly explain why it was necessary.
So by the judge's logic, having to show an ID and have a background check run also unreasonably burdens the fundamental right to bear arms, yes?
How does voter ID stop multiple precinct votes? And democrats fight voter ID laws because they target minorities and lower income people specifically, while actually accomplishing little else. Voter fraud is not an issue because there isn't enough voter fraud to begin with.
It forces a person who wants to vote in multiple places to use a fake ID, which is another crime, and easier to track than simple voter fraud where no ID is used.
Okay, think about this...if they have a fake ID and they go to another precinct...how are they registered for that other precinct? On top of that wtf exactly did the voter ID law do to stop it??? THEY HAVE A FAKE ID!!
Commonwealth Court Judge Bernard L. McGinley, a Democrat, said the law would unreasonably burden the fundamental right to vote, and the state had been unable to convincingly explain why it was necessary.
So by the judge's logic, having to show an ID and have a background check run also unreasonably burdens the fundamental right to bear arms, yes?
Guns and votes have two different purposes
Judge spikes photo ID requirement for Pa. voters
Funny how libs don't object to photo is requirements to get married
It forces a person who wants to vote in multiple places to use a fake ID, which is another crime, and easier to track than simple voter fraud where no ID is used.
Okay, think about this...if they have a fake ID and they go to another precinct...how are they registered for that other precinct? On top of that wtf exactly did the voter ID law do to stop it??? THEY HAVE A FAKE ID!!
and if you maintain your voter rolls properly said fake ID should be notable as being a fake.
Making ID a requirement is not the be all end all, its a step to assure one person, one vote, and that said voters are elligible.
Do you know what the largest source of Voter Fraud was in 2012??
It was old elderly people (a lot of whom vote republican) who voted twice unknowingly, and when questioned about it later turned themselves in to correct the problem.
Voter ID laws do "nothing" to stop this.
Okay, think about this...if they have a fake ID and they go to another precinct...how are they registered for that other precinct? On top of that wtf exactly did the voter ID law do to stop it??? THEY HAVE A FAKE ID!!
and if you maintain your voter rolls properly said fake ID should be notable as being a fake.
Making ID a requirement is not the be all end all, its a step to assure one person, one vote, and that said voters are elligible.
If they're on both voter rolls then they don't need a fake ID at all...they just show their regular ID at both stations. Voter ID laws do not stop people from voting in multiple precincts.
So by the judge's logic, having to show an ID and have a background check run also unreasonably burdens the fundamental right to bear arms, yes?
Guns and votes have two different purposes
Purpose has not meaing when it comes to something that is a right.
How does voter ID stop multiple precinct votes?
And democrats fight voter ID laws because they target minorities and lower income people specifically, while actually accomplishing little else.
Voter fraud is not an issue because there isn't enough voter fraud to begin with.
and if you maintain your voter rolls properly said fake ID should be notable as being a fake.
Making ID a requirement is not the be all end all, its a step to assure one person, one vote, and that said voters are elligible.
If they're on both voter rolls then they don't need a fake ID at all...they just show their regular ID at both stations. Voter ID laws do not stop people from voting in multiple precincts.
If the rolls are properly maintained it would require them to have a fake one, because the ID's unique number would show up twice on a check of the rolls.
Right now you can have a John Smith vote as two different John smiths as long as he uses two different addresses. With a proper ID law and proper rolls, this would be flagged because Smith would have to aquire a 2nd valid State ID to vote in the 2nd place.
Ask yourself what type of voter fraud Voter ID would stop.
Seriously. Do it.
Absentee ballot fraud? Nope.
A poll worker altering ballots? Nope.
Someone voting in more than one precinct or state? Nope.
Those are the most common types of fraud which occur, and Voter ID is completely ineffective against all of them.
I have shown in other topics that those states which have enacted Voter ID, including those states which have the strictest Voter ID laws, still have the same old fraud occurring.
Hmmm...
So what kind of fraud would Voter ID stop?
It would stop someone else showing up at the voting booth on Election Day and voting in your name. This is the imaginary fantasy Voter ID proponents have in their heads. But spend ten seconds actually thinking about that kind of fraud, and see if you are intelligent enough to figure out why that is an extremely rare type of fraud.
Think for another ten seconds and see if you are intelligent enough to figure out why it would be impossible to commit this kind of fraud on a scale large enough to swing an election undetected.
Hmmm...
How about dead people voting? That is easily solved by making sure when someone dies their name is removed from the voter registration rolls. Done!
So you finally, finally, finally have to ask yourself, "What is the REAL reason my puppet masters want Voter ID?"
And when local election boards try to do this progressive howl about voter suppression and the wrong people being taken off the list.
