Palestine deniers

[irosie91]

Roudy---when Islamo nazis want to cite POPULATION
figures for jews vs muslims in "palestine"-----they include
transjordan------or when they want to discuss that bizarre
lie that "ARABS OWNED 93% of PALESTINE" that includes
trans jordan too------you have to get used to isalmo nazi
manipulations after 1948 TRANSJORDAN suddenly
becomes THE MOON

 

[sealadaigh]

For years zionist has had the luxury in arguments to point out palestine isn't a state as its not recognised by the U.N as one.
Things have changed now and Its Is a State as voted by the U.N. the same proccess by which Isreal Wrongly or rightly was voted in as a state.
But still they try to argue its not a state.
There is a new Zionist state, the state of DENIAL, and I proclaim you Palestine deniers.
accept it and get over it!

Since May 14, 1948 Anti Semites which include the Arab World and many others have either denied Israel's right to exist or proclaimed that the U.N. didn't have the " right" to vote in Israel as a State.

Right now, while they enjoy a certain " status" they didn't have before they don't have full " statehood" that the other Countries have.

However, there is a new Palestinian State also called the State of DE- NIAL ( Which is NOT the River). It is the State without the 67 Borders that were NEVER accepted or respected by the Arab World in the first place, NO leaving E. Jerusalem, and NO " Right of Return".

I hate to ruin your day, but no Pro- Israeli objects to the " Palestinian State" . Accept it and GET OVER IT !

the only thing i really learned from this post is that, if any country engaged in any conflict with israel, that they should show none of them any quarter and israelis should be pushed into the sea.

 

[Billo_Really]

the only thing i really learned from this post is that, if any country engaged in any conflict with israel, that they should show none of them any quarter and israelis should be pushed into the sea.

Wouldn't that pollute local fisheries like what the BP oil spill did to the Gulf?

 

[Billo_Really]

How many times do you repeat the same crap? Arab Palestine is Jordan, and Jewish Palestine was first supposed to include Jordan as well, but was later reduced. The fact that the Arabs accepted all those newly formed Arab / Muslim states and refused to accept the one Jewish state is irrelevant. They never owned nor did they control the land. It belonged to the Ottomans for 600 years and after its collapse was controlled by the British.

And the people creating the Mandate, did so with this caveat...

Balfour Declaration of 1917, in which Lord Balfour said in a letter to Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a representative of the Zionist movement:

"His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine…. "​

The only thing that was clearly understood, was that you had no intention of doing that.

 

[Saigon]

If they don't accept our state, why the obligation of us to accept theirs?

how is THAT fair?

There needs to be mutual recognition, but this could be negotiated.

 

[irosie91]

If they don't accept our state, why the obligation of us to accept theirs?

how is THAT fair?

There needs to be mutual recognition, but this could be negotiated.

are you really that stupid---or just pretending? THE 'ummah' exploded
simply because someone did a line drawing muhummad----in the form
of a generic arab-------you expect that same ummah to SUDDENLY
give up MAWT AL YAHUD????? half a million Imams would have
to devise a KHUTBAH JUMAAT delaring "WE LIED ---ISRAEL IS
NOT "MUSLIM LAND" " Muslims from far flung lands virtually 'CHOKE'
when they say the word "ISRAEL" you expect them to get over it?

 

[Saigon]

iRosie -

I will only respond to comments that are literate.

 

[proudveteran06]

For years zionist has had the luxury in arguments to point out palestine isn't a state as its not recognised by the U.N as one.
Things have changed now and Its Is a State as voted by the U.N. the same proccess by which Isreal Wrongly or rightly was voted in as a state.
But still they try to argue its not a state.
There is a new Zionist state, the state of DENIAL, and I proclaim you Palestine deniers.
accept it and get over it!

Since May 14, 1948 Anti Semites which include the Arab World and many others have either denied Israel's right to exist or proclaimed that the U.N. didn't have the " right" to vote in Israel as a State.

Right now, while they enjoy a certain " status" they didn't have before they don't have full " statehood" that the other Countries have.

However, there is a new Palestinian State also called the State of DE- NIAL ( Which is NOT the River). It is the State without the 67 Borders that were NEVER accepted or respected by the Arab World in the first place, NO leaving E. Jerusalem, and NO " Right of Return".

I hate to ruin your day, but no Pro- Israeli objects to the " Palestinian State" . Accept it and GET OVER IT !

the only thing i really learned from this post is that, if any country engaged in any conflict with israel, that they should show none of them any quarter and israelis should be pushed into the sea.

If I am not mistaken, this is from the " CATHOLIC" who proclaims that the Jews hate Christians yet denies how the Church has felt about Jews and still feels today!!! The above is from the " CATHOLIC" who says NOTHING about the Anti- Christian things the Quran says; Even worse then that is they act on it .

The " CATHOLIC" just proves my point. No matter what Israel does they will NEVER accept Israel and their goal will ALWAYS be to destroy it. Just ONE more reason why there will never be " Right of Return". Such a good " CATHOLIC" boy! His " church" and PARENTS are SOOOOOOO PROUD OF HIM! HE WAS TAUGHT WELL !!!!

 

[P F Tinmore]

jodylee, et al,

Yes, interesting.


(COMMENT)

Just as Palestine refuses to this day to recognize Israel, Palestine doesn't have to be recognized by Israel.

Indeed, recognition is merely a political step that is not necessary.



All during the mandate period the Palestinians fought to defend its integrity and independence.





The UN does not create states. Just recently the UN recognized the already existing Palestine. The question is at what point in time did Palestine become a state?

The Palestinians fought for the independence of their country all during the mandate period.

There is a photo of the Al Hambra Theatre in Jaffa in 1937 flying the Palestinian flag.

Palestinians declared their independence, inside their international borders, in September of 1948. Five countries recognized the state of Palestine at that time. On September 9, 1976 the Arab League accepted the state of Palestine as a member state.

An entity does not necessarily cease to be a state even if all of its territory has been occupied by a foreign power.

Statehood is all about recognition. But it is a double edged sword. Once you are a state, new principles kick-in.

But now:

• What are the borders of this new Palestine?
• What do they claim as sovereign territory?
• Is there a Constitution that outlines fundamental principles or established precedents according to which a state or other organization is acknowledged to be governed?

Now they seem to need some luck. I think they made history. They are the only territory ever to Declare Independence while under active occupation that is not released.

I wonder if this means they need to negotiate a peace treaty.

Most Respectfully,
R

How many times do you repeat the same crap? Arab Palestine is Jordan, and Jewish Palestine was first supposed to include Jordan as well, but was later reduced. The fact that the Arabs accepted all those newly formed Arab / Muslim states and refused to accept the one Jewish state is irrelevant. They never owned nor did they control the land. It belonged to the Ottomans for 600 years and after its collapse was controlled by the British.

Too bad none of that crap worked out for you.

They never owned nor did they control the land.

When the UN passed resolution 181 the Palestinians rejected it. Since Palestine was their country and they had the final say the UN could not implement it. Resolution 181 died right there.

 

[irosie91]

When the UN passed resolution 181 the Palestinians rejected it. Since Palestine was their country and they had the final say the UN could not implement it. Resolution 181 died right there.

that's fine tinnie 181 is dead in the water----and the jews of palestine---aka --
the palestinians -----representing an oppressed minority in the MIDDLE EAST ---fought
against their oppressors and managed to assert their INDEPENDENCE FROM their
oppressors and declared their country JEWISH ISRAEL what point are you struggling
to make------the arab/muslims of PALESTINE declared the name of their
country JORDAN ---since it was the ERSTWHILE transjordan.

The fact that the TRANSJORDANIANS and the "palestinian" arab muslims on
the west side of the jordan river do not get along ----is not surprising-----the arab
sunnis of the north in Iraq do not get along with the arab shiiites of the south ---
in Iraq the people of north sudan and south sudan---had problems too.

so now there is ISRAEL (borders never established----not even by 181) and
there is Jordan and there are lots of arab muslims here and there despised
by both JORDANIANS and EGYPTIANS ----etc etc

 

[jodylee]

the islamo nazi pigs are playing word games again Nothing new----it was the best tool
of their FOREMOST SAINT adolf abu ali whose ass they continue to lick in the
name of ISAHU AKBARRRR Nothing new---the way to win the hearts of the scum of
the gutter-----invent jingles

just using your jingles back at ya, Who could forget the classic jingle anti-semite, which is intirely inacurate. self hating jew, isreal is the king if jingles

Is english your mother-tongue? No matter how poorly educated you are---
if you grew up in an english speaking nation----you would probably know how
to spell ENTIRELY. 'inacurate" is also incorrect----the correct spelling
is INACCURATE (notice the two C's) you also have a problem spelling
ISRAEL

Your comment about the word "anti-semite" is silly. Israel did not invent it.
The arab muslims did invent the idea that some of them MAGICALLY
became "palestinians" some time in the 1960s. "self-hating jew" ???
It is a phrase you picked up from reading some nonsensical garbage. Why
are you so eager to demonstrate stupidity?

Picking up on spelling shows a lack of argument, you got nothin'

 

[Roudy]

Indeed, recognition is merely a political step that is not necessary.



All during the mandate period the Palestinians fought to defend its integrity and independence.





The UN does not create states. Just recently the UN recognized the already existing Palestine. The question is at what point in time did Palestine become a state?

The Palestinians fought for the independence of their country all during the mandate period.

There is a photo of the Al Hambra Theatre in Jaffa in 1937 flying the Palestinian flag.

Palestinians declared their independence, inside their international borders, in September of 1948. Five countries recognized the state of Palestine at that time. On September 9, 1976 the Arab League accepted the state of Palestine as a member state.

An entity does not necessarily cease to be a state even if all of its territory has been occupied by a foreign power.

How many times do you repeat the same crap? Arab Palestine is Jordan, and Jewish Palestine was first supposed to include Jordan as well, but was later reduced. The fact that the Arabs accepted all those newly formed Arab / Muslim states and refused to accept the one Jewish state is irrelevant. They never owned nor did they control the land. It belonged to the Ottomans for 600 years and after its collapse was controlled by the British.

Too bad none of that crap worked out for you.

They never owned nor did they control the land.

When the UN passed resolution 181 the Palestinians rejected it. Since Palestine was their country and they had the final say the UN could not implement it. Resolution 181 died right there.

There were no "Palestinians" then to reject it, you lying fool. The ARABS rejected it, attacked Israel to destroy it, and it wasn't to create this fictional Palestine.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy---when Islamo nazis want to cite POPULATION
figures for jews vs muslims in "palestine"-----they include
transjordan------or when they want to discuss that bizarre
lie that "ARABS OWNED 93% of PALESTINE" that includes
trans jordan too------you have to get used to isalmo nazi
manipulations after 1948 TRANSJORDAN suddenly
becomes THE MOON

Yup. All those displaced Arabs got displaced to their own country. LOL

 

[Roudy]

How many times do you repeat the same crap? Arab Palestine is Jordan, and Jewish Palestine was first supposed to include Jordan as well, but was later reduced. The fact that the Arabs accepted all those newly formed Arab / Muslim states and refused to accept the one Jewish state is irrelevant. They never owned nor did they control the land. It belonged to the Ottomans for 600 years and after its collapse was controlled by the British.

And the people creating the Mandate, did so with this caveat...

Balfour Declaration of 1917, in which Lord Balfour said in a letter to Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a representative of the Zionist movement:

"His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine…. "​

The only thing that was clearly understood, was that you had no intention of doing that.

National home for the Jewish people is exactly what Arabs refuse to accept.

Currently there are about two million Arab Israelis living with the same exact rights as other Israelis in Israel, not to mention Israel is known to be a great host and safe keeper of religious sites.

So I'd say it's the Arabs that did not honor any of what was agreed to in 1917.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many times do you repeat the same crap? Arab Palestine is Jordan, and Jewish Palestine was first supposed to include Jordan as well, but was later reduced. The fact that the Arabs accepted all those newly formed Arab / Muslim states and refused to accept the one Jewish state is irrelevant. They never owned nor did they control the land. It belonged to the Ottomans for 600 years and after its collapse was controlled by the British.

Too bad none of that crap worked out for you.

They never owned nor did they control the land.

When the UN passed resolution 181 the Palestinians rejected it. Since Palestine was their country and they had the final say the UN could not implement it. Resolution 181 died right there.

There were no "Palestinians" then to reject it, you lying fool. The ARABS rejected it, attacked Israel to destroy it, and it wasn't to create this fictional Palestine.

There were no "Palestinians"

Yeah, yeah, heard it all before a million times from Israeli propagandists.

 

[irosie91]

just using your jingles back at ya, Who could forget the classic jingle anti-semite, which is intirely inacurate. self hating jew, isreal is the king if jingles

Is english your mother-tongue? No matter how poorly educated you are---
if you grew up in an english speaking nation----you would probably know how
to spell ENTIRELY. 'inacurate" is also incorrect----the correct spelling
is INACCURATE (notice the two C's) you also have a problem spelling
ISRAEL

Your comment about the word "anti-semite" is silly. Israel did not invent it.
The arab muslims did invent the idea that some of them MAGICALLY
became "palestinians" some time in the 1960s. "self-hating jew" ???
It is a phrase you picked up from reading some nonsensical garbage. Why
are you so eager to demonstrate stupidity?

Picking up on spelling shows a lack of argument, you got nothin'

sweetums your post is not a topic for arguement ----your post is a fart.

 

[Roudy]

Too bad none of that crap worked out for you.



When the UN passed resolution 181 the Palestinians rejected it. Since Palestine was their country and they had the final say the UN could not implement it. Resolution 181 died right there.

There were no "Palestinians" then to reject it, you lying fool. The ARABS rejected it, attacked Israel to destroy it, and it wasn't to create this fictional Palestine.

There were no "Palestinians"

Yeah, yeah, heard it all before a million times from Israeli propagandists.

The "Palestinians" at that time were considered to be Jews only. The Arabs made that very clear. You have a problem with the truth and anything that contradicts IslamoNazi propaganda and lies.

 

[Saigon]

Is english your mother-tongue? No matter how poorly educated you are---
if you grew up in an english speaking nation----you would probably know how
to spell ENTIRELY. 'inacurate" is also incorrect----the correct spelling
is INACCURATE (notice the two C's) you also have a problem spelling
ISRAEL

Watching Rosie attack another person's English is like watching Palestinians complain about Israeli violence.

 

[Billo_Really]

National home for the Jewish people is exactly what Arabs refuse to accept.

They weren't asked! And by the time they were presented with a deal, they were asked to give up 70% of the land to 10% of the population. Who would accept a bullshit deal like that?

Currently there are about two million Arab Israelis living with the same exact rights as other Israelis in Israel, not to mention Israel is known to be a great host and safe keeper of religious sites.

What about the Nakba Law? That specifically targets arab-Israeli's.

But what do I know? I live in Long Beach. So here's what a former member of the Knesset had to say about your "same exact rights" rap...

Yossi Paritzky, former Knesset and Cabinet minister, writing about the systematic institutionalization and legalization of racial and religious discrimination in Israel, stated that Israel does not act like a democracy in which “all citizens regardless of race, religious, gender or origin are entitled to equality.” Rather, by implementing more and more discriminatory laws that treat Palestinians as second-class citizens, “Israel decided to be like apartheid‑era South Africa, and some will say even worse countries that no longer exist.”

BTW, I need to thank you for the 20 second belly laugh I had when reading these two statements of yours:

National home for the Jewish people

Currently there are about two million Arab Israelis living with the same exact rights as other Israelis in Israel​

The timing was perfect! One right after the other, 180 degrees apart. Or should I say, apartheid. If it arabs did have the same rights, you wouldn't be calling it a "jewish state".

So I'd say it's the Arabs that did not honor any of what was agreed to in 1917.

You either have comprehension issues, or no intention to debate honestly. That statement has nothing to do with Lord Balfour's letter to the zionist representative telling him they can create their "jewish state", but they must respect the rights of the indigenous arabs who are native to that area.

"...nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine."

The "letter" was specifically addressed to the zionists, not the arabs. There is no obligation to "honor" something, that doesn't involve you. But I do love counting all the hoops you people jump through, to avoid taking responsibility for anything you've done. Psychologists should add "realityphobes" to their curriculum of mental disorders.

 

[irosie91]

do any of your islamo nazi pigs ever wonder why 99% of jews living in
what is NOW arab countries ----LEFT? whilst---so MANY muslims
not only stayed in Israel but still FIGHT TO GET IN?