Palestine Today

[rylah]

She should stop acting as if everyone owes something to the PLO,
this really isn't helping their cause, isolation from the Arab world is their biggest mistake.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

Yes, it is hard to believe that the Arab Palestinian is not involved in the Generational Transfer of hatred. After all, violence is the prefered method for Arab Palestinian negotiation.

Gee-had for 5th Graders

(COMMENT)

Of all the sociopaths seen and cataloged since 911, the Arab Palestinians may not be at the top of the ranking, but they would have to be in the top 10 cultures that are epidemically afflicted with a contagious mental disorder exhibiting extreme hostile attitudes, criminal behaviors and a general lack of conscience.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

Yes, it is hard to believe that the Arab Palestinian is not involved in the Generational Transfer of hatred. After all, violence is the prefered method for Arab Palestinian negotiation.

Gee-had for 5th Graders

(COMMENT)

Of all the sociopaths seen and cataloged since 911, the Arab Palestinians may not be at the top of the ranking, but they would have to be in the top 10 cultures that are epidemically afflicted with a contagious mental disorder exhibiting extreme hostile attitudes, criminal behaviors and a general lack of conscience.

Most Respectfully,
R

Very true, Rocco.

Just think.
If the Arab people (or their leaders) had chosen peaceful coexistence with the Jewish people back in 1948, we might now be recognizing, 70 years later, a Palestinian State.


Or maybe not.


The territory assigned to the Arab people in the UN Partition of 1947 more likely would have become part of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. But in either case, there would have been mutual acceptance and opportunity for mutual growth and prosperity. The forced expulsion and mass exodus of ~850,000 Arab Jews from the new Arab States would have not occurred--though naturally many may have emigrated to live their lives freely as Jews (and not as dhimmis) with full respect and equality under Israeli Law.

What energies and dedication could have been placed by the Arab people for betterment of their lives and those of their children if their focus had been on their own growth as modern nationstates and not on scapegoating hatred and bigotry toward Israel specifically and Jews in general?


Choices were made.
And we can only dream of what could have been if peaceful co-existence was the path chosen by Arabs-Moslems as opposed to choosing the path of hate-mongers such as Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini and the roll call of Arab-Moslem dictators, terrorists, misfits and gee-had wannabes who have replaced him.

"Arabs, arise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you."
--The Mufti and the Fuehrer, Joseph Schechtman,1965


...and Arab League leader Azaam Paasha:

"This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades"
--Righteous Victims: A History of the Zionist-Arab Conflict, 1881-2001. p.219

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian freedom fighter Leila Khaled speaks at anti-APEC protest in Manila

 

[rylah]

The women's Jihad army of the Palestinian Caliphate

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine: United We Stand. United We Dream

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Hamas: The Iranian Shia Lackeys

 

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[P F Tinmore]

 

[toobfreak]

Palestine Today Who are the Palestinians? What are they doing? How do they live?

The real question OUGHT to be Palestine about 60 years ago, who they'd be now, and what the hell were they doing passing up that SWELL deal offered them by the UN to take a BUNCH of land, SETTLE, and live happy and peacefully.

I guess common sense just isn't in the muslim heart.

 

[Hollie]

Islamic Terrorist Cultural Event

 

[ding]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ ding, et al,

Let's try this just: One - More - Time!
Just a refresher here. See if you can follow this...

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So basically what you are saying is that if you steal something and can hold onto long enough because the officials look the other way you can legally own it?

(KEY FACTORS)

In the case of the West Bank and Jerusalem...

• Treaty of Alliance between HM in respect of the UK and HH the Amir of Trans-Jordan, 22 March 1946 •

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• Unification of the Two Banks

◈ On April 11, 1950, elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine from further Zionist expansion.
SOURCE: History Website: kinghussein.gov → Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
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• Disengagement from the West Bank •

◈ On July 28, 1988, King Hussein announced the cessation of a $1.3 billion development program for the West Bank, explaining that the measure was designed to allow the PLO more responsibility for the area. Two days later, he formally dissolved Parliament, ending West Bank representation in the legislature. Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.
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• Convention on Rights and Duties of States (inter-American); December 26, 1933 •

◈ ARTICLE 3

The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states. Even before recognition the state has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its conservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate upon its interests, administer its services, and to define the jurisdiction and competence of its courts.

The exercise of these rights has no other limitation than the exercise of the rights of other states according to international law.​

(COMMENT)

Prior to the Annexation of the West Bank by Jordanian parliament in which of the MPs were Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank (this would be by the Right of independence and Sovereignty). the Government of Palestine (the UK) maintained effective control by Mandate. In 1950 the King of Jordan incorporated the West Bank into the greater Sovereignty of Jordan. In 1967, the State of Israel, in pursuit of retreating Jordanian military forces, assume effective control of the West Bank. This made the West Bank Jordanian territory under Israeli occupation. On 31 July 1988, The Kingdom of Jordan cut all administrative and legal ties with the West Bank, leaving the West Bank in the hands of Israel without protest or other contest by the original sovereign → HM King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

Let me say this again.

On 31 July 1988, The Kingdom of Jordan cut all administrative and legal ties with the West Bank, leaving the West Bank in the hands of Israel without protest or other contest by the original sovereign → HM King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.
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This nonsense you spout: "because the officials look the other way" is absolutely incorrect and unsubstantiated in any fashion. The King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan did not look the other way, he even made a radio address to the citizens of his nation and the world at large.

If the Arab Palestinians had any control at all in the West Bank or Jerusalem, it is only because the Israelis allow it. Currently, because of the very poor diplomacy on the part of the Arab Palestinians, the only territory the Arab Palestinians have full civil and security control is in Area "A" through the Palestinian Authority; and the Gaza Strip because of the unilateral withdraw by the Israelis.

Any questions?

Most Respectfully,
R

Yes, was it contested in the first place?

 

[ding]

Israel ... (has) no valid claim to the land.

Defend this claim. You will have to outline how you think claims to sovereignty become valid and then show that the Jewish claim to some territory does not meet that criteria.

Israel's claim to the land is based upon a fairy tale.

 

[ding]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ ding, et al,

This is not an applicable case for the concept of the "Fruit of the PosionousTree."

Everything which proceeds from bad fruit is bad. If the initial claim is bad fruit everything which proceeds from it is bad too. No matter how lipstick or fancy dresses one puts on a pig, at the end of the day it is still a pig.

(COMMENT)

The "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" is a phrase coined to describe tainted or compromised evidence. It is not applicable to either national or international decision-making processes.

The analogous criticism in the various decision-making processes is "competency" (an ability to perform) and "capacity," (fundamental action that supports of nullifies the element of intent).

(PROCESS)

Whether or not the "pig" went to the Royal Fancy Dress Ball is NOT the issue. The decision to go leads to the consequence of the action. IF the prince is deeply affected (holding a strong attraction) for the "pig" THEN the decision however good or bad the "lipstick" had the desired cosmetic effect. You cannot go to Divorce Court years later on the grounds that the princess is a "pig."

(EXCEPTION)

Well, you might get away with it IF the "pig" was wearing a niqab (leaves only the eyes uncovered) or especially a burka (everything covered). You might get a little T 'n' A (that would be - toes and ankles) but that would be all. THEN that might be used as an extenuating circumstance.

Most Respectfully,
R

The international decision-making processes is responsible for the bad fruit. What basis did it have for granting Israel any land?

 

[P F Tinmore]

How to be a Palestinian supermom

 

[Hollie]

How to be an Arab-Moslem supercultist

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinians: Is it your right to throw stones?

 

[Hollie]

Arabs-Moslems, it your your right to be arrested, or worse, for assault.

But don’t mind PF Tinmore, your arrest will net him a YouTube video.