Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[Hollie]

Seems like you’re just desperate to make excuses for an islamic societal milieu defined by misfit behavior.

You're constantly trying to hijack the thread topic and make it about the other poster.

This thread is not about your hurt feelings.

 

[Billo_Really]

Peaceful Protests

Do you realize you represent yourself as rather, how shall we say, ignorant and an apologist for Islamist terrorists with such nonsense?

I'm not the topic of the thread.

 

[Billo_Really]

This thread is not about your hurt feelings.

Your Honor, the prosecution rests.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel announced from the beginning that it would not permit violation of its border or attacks on its forces or installations. I heard those announcements repeatedly, on radio and TV, by the IDF Chief of Staff and by the politicians who lead the government of Israel. The Israel Air Force dropped thousands of leaflets over Gaza to that effect, as well. Nothing in Israel’s record could have led anyone to expect anything but this policy.

But of course, Hamas knew and knows all this. A controlled, staged conflict between desperate civilians in Gaza and the Goliath, Israel, was and is the point, since obviously, Gazans will not be “returning” to Israel via marches or any other means. It was a perfect set up for Israel to be portrayed, as indeed, has played out, as needlessly, wantonly, violent, leading to UN resolutions and hoped for commissions of inquiry, etc. Certainly, a lot of bad press for Israel. But not enough provocation for all-out war, which a weakened Hamas does not wish at the present.

In any crime, investigators since the Romans have asked, “cui bono,” or “whose benefit,” as an obvious starting point. In the case of the “march of return,” which side benefits from scenes of violent clashes, casualties, fatalities? Israel’s military is many things, including fallible; but patently stupid, not. The standing orders were clear: no one penetrates the border; anyone approaching it in the context of the announced goal of penetrating it; anyone hurling projectiles at IDF soldiers, let alone Molotov cocktails, will be stopped, by tear gas if possible; by bullets if necessary. In the climate of cooked media reporting about Israel, Israel has no benefit, only harm, in Gazan casualties, let alone deaths. Hamas, on the other hand, glories in every such instance.

And hurls its valiant action and heroic leadership (not that Hamas’ leaders are anywhere to be found at the border fence), in the face of the PA.

As the weeks have passed, the silence from the PA and in the West Bank about this “march of return” has been deafening. But silence speaks. This is a Hamas show, manufactured in large part as a tactic against the PA since the collapse of the latest efforts at Palestinian political unity and the ensuing war the PA has declared against Gaza, cutting off support for electricity, water, to the Strip’s, residents– to fellow Palestinians. The war of words between PA President Abbas and Hamas’ leadership has been as incendiary as the burning projectiles hurled at Israeli soldiers and flown by kite over the border.

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Gaza and us

You're basically saying, it is okay for you to tell your neighbor, you will shoot him dead if he walks to the edge of "his" front lawn. And if he does and you do shoot him while he is standing on his own property, you think you had a right to do that?

The Egyptians seem to think so, too.

 

[Billo_Really]

The Egyptians seem to think so, too.

So you do think you can shoot people on their own property?

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Egyptians seem to think so, too.

So you do think you can shoot people on their own property?

ANY country WILL and DOES shoot people who attempt to invade their country from outside its borders.

These are not "neighbors" having issues.

Your word game is very cute, but it will get you nowhere.

These are not two neighbors who live in houses next to each other.

These is the issue of one terrorist organization trying to invade the borders of a sovereign country it has sworn to destroy, as it is written in its charters.

HUGE difference you simply do not care about.

 

[Billo_Really]

ANY country WILL and DOES shoot people who attempt to invade their country from outside its borders.

These are not "neighbors" having issues.

Your word game is very cute, but it will get you nowhere.

These are not two neighbors who live in houses next to each other.

These is the issue of one terrorist organization trying to invade the borders of a sovereign country it has sworn to destroy, as it is written in its charters.

HUGE difference you simply do not care about.

There was no invasion and they have a right to protest the inhuman conditions Israel is forcing on them.

 

[Sixties Fan]

ANY country WILL and DOES shoot people who attempt to invade their country from outside its borders.

These are not "neighbors" having issues.

Your word game is very cute, but it will get you nowhere.

These are not two neighbors who live in houses next to each other.

These is the issue of one terrorist organization trying to invade the borders of a sovereign country it has sworn to destroy, as it is written in its charters.

HUGE difference you simply do not care about.

There was no invasion and they have a right to protest the inhuman conditions Israel is forcing on them.

You are really Billo O'Reilly. From Fake News. The best news agency in the world.

Great to know you Billo. Keep up the good job, if you still have that job, as real Bill lost his some time ago.

 

[Hollie]

ANY country WILL and DOES shoot people who attempt to invade their country from outside its borders.

These are not "neighbors" having issues.

Your word game is very cute, but it will get you nowhere.

These are not two neighbors who live in houses next to each other.

These is the issue of one terrorist organization trying to invade the borders of a sovereign country it has sworn to destroy, as it is written in its charters.

HUGE difference you simply do not care about.

There was no invasion and they have a right to protest the inhuman conditions Israel is forcing on them.

Who, exactly, is forcing the various Islamic terrorist franchises to devote their energies and welfare fraud money toward actions contrary to building a workable society?

It is Arabs-Moslems who are “forcing” Arabs-Moslems to live under the environment of incompetence and ineptitude they create.

 

[Hollie]

Arab-Islamics. Never failing to fail.

Twitter

Breaking news: Palestinian rioters are now sacking the ONLY humanitarian crossing, through which Israel provides food, fuel and all other goods to the people in Gaza. Peaceful protest?

1:19 PM - May 4, 2018

 

[Sixties Fan]

Watch: IDF releases footage showing how Hamas uses children as cannon fodder during the recent border riots.

IDF: This is how the terrorist use children as human shields

 

[Sixties Fan]

In new videos, IDF accuses Gazans of faking injury, taking small kids to riots

 

[Billo_Really]

You are really Billo O'Reilly. From Fake News. The best news agency in the world.

Great to know you Billo. Keep up the good job, if you still have that job, as real Bill lost his some time ago.

I'm the antithesis to Bill O'Reilly. And you're right, Fox News is a joke!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gaza: Palestinians Hit by Israeli Bullets as Mass Protests Continue

In the Gaza Strip, Israeli forces opened fire with tear gas and live bullets today, as Palestinians continued mass protests against Israel’s occupation. The Haaretz newspaper reports at least three people were injured by live fire.

Medics say 19-year-old Anas Abu Aser is the 49th Palestinian killed by Israeli fire since mass protests began in late March. At least two journalists are among the dead; more than a thousand protesters have been injured. Palestinian medics told Al Jazeera at least 24 people have had their limbs amputated after they were hit by a new kind of ammunition—so-called butterfly bullets, which explode on impact, shattering bones and shredding internal organs.

Gaza: Palestinians Hit by Israeli Bullets as Mass Protests Continue | Democracy Now!

 

[Hollie]

Gaza: Palestinians Hit by Israeli Bullets as Mass Protests Continue

In the Gaza Strip, Israeli forces opened fire with tear gas and live bullets today, as Palestinians continued mass protests against Israel’s occupation. The Haaretz newspaper reports at least three people were injured by live fire.

Medics say 19-year-old Anas Abu Aser is the 49th Palestinian killed by Israeli fire since mass protests began in late March. At least two journalists are among the dead; more than a thousand protesters have been injured. Palestinian medics told Al Jazeera at least 24 people have had their limbs amputated after they were hit by a new kind of ammunition—so-called butterfly bullets, which explode on impact, shattering bones and shredding internal organs.

Gaza: Palestinians Hit by Israeli Bullets as Mass Protests Continue | Democracy Now!

Such nonsense about "butterfly bullets" is not surprising coming from an internet tabloid.

 

[Hollie]

WATCH: Hamas fakes injuries, uses children in Gaza border protests

IDF video from Gaza border protests shows supposed casualty stand upright under cover of smoke, multiple children present, ushered by adults to shield them from IDF fire; Hamas 'creating false pretense, misleading international public opinion,' army accuses.
Yoav ZItun|Published: 05.05.18 , 22:36

WATCH: Hamas fakes injuries, uses children in Gaza border protests

The IDF Spokesperson's Unit published a video Saturday evening showing Hamas faking injuries and using women and children to mask its terror activities during the weekly border protests, intentionally making it harder for the IDF to retaliate while "creating a false pretense and misleading international public opinion."

 

[Sixties Fan]

Meanwhile, no one will pay attention to what is happening on the Gaza Strip’s other border with Egypt, which has been closed for most of the past 10 years.

There are, of course, no demonstrations planned along Gaza’s border with Egypt to protest the continued closure of Gaza’s better-known border crossing, Rafah — its crossing to Egypt.

The Palestinians do not feel comfortable talking about Egypt’s blockade of the Gaza Strip. They prefer to turn a blind eye to the severe travel restrictions imposed by Egypt on the residents of Gaza and instead put all the blame on Israel. Currently, Hamas leaders cannot leave the Gaza Strip without Egypt’s permission. They are afraid to embarrass the Egyptians lest they be banned from leaving the Gaza Strip completely.

Some Palestinians have argued that the “March of Return” is also aimed at ending the blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s violent takeover of the coastal enclave in the summer of 2007.

Despite the blockade, however, Israel has kept its border crossing with the Gaza Strip open, except for times when Hamas and other armed groups carry out terror attacks against Israelis. Even then, Israel closes the border crossings only for a few hours or days.

The civilian and commercial border crossings have also been open to some Palestinians and foreign nationals who enter and leave the Gaza Strip on an almost daily basis.

All eyes, then, are set on the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel — but what about Gaza’s other border crossing, the one with Egypt?

(full article online)

Palestinians: The Real Gaza Blockade

 

[P F Tinmore]

Meanwhile, no one will pay attention to what is happening on the Gaza Strip’s other border with Egypt, which has been closed for most of the past 10 years.

There are, of course, no demonstrations planned along Gaza’s border with Egypt to protest the continued closure of Gaza’s better-known border crossing, Rafah — its crossing to Egypt.

The Palestinians do not feel comfortable talking about Egypt’s blockade of the Gaza Strip. They prefer to turn a blind eye to the severe travel restrictions imposed by Egypt on the residents of Gaza and instead put all the blame on Israel. Currently, Hamas leaders cannot leave the Gaza Strip without Egypt’s permission. They are afraid to embarrass the Egyptians lest they be banned from leaving the Gaza Strip completely.

Some Palestinians have argued that the “March of Return” is also aimed at ending the blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s violent takeover of the coastal enclave in the summer of 2007.

Despite the blockade, however, Israel has kept its border crossing with the Gaza Strip open, except for times when Hamas and other armed groups carry out terror attacks against Israelis. Even then, Israel closes the border crossings only for a few hours or days.

The civilian and commercial border crossings have also been open to some Palestinians and foreign nationals who enter and leave the Gaza Strip on an almost daily basis.

All eyes, then, are set on the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel — but what about Gaza’s other border crossing, the one with Egypt?

(full article online)

Palestinians: The Real Gaza Blockade

Egypt gets its marching orders and a couple billion a year from the US.

since Hamas’s violent takeover of the coastal enclave in the summer of 2007.

Hamas was the elected government in Palestine.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Meanwhile, no one will pay attention to what is happening on the Gaza Strip’s other border with Egypt, which has been closed for most of the past 10 years.

There are, of course, no demonstrations planned along Gaza’s border with Egypt to protest the continued closure of Gaza’s better-known border crossing, Rafah — its crossing to Egypt.

The Palestinians do not feel comfortable talking about Egypt’s blockade of the Gaza Strip. They prefer to turn a blind eye to the severe travel restrictions imposed by Egypt on the residents of Gaza and instead put all the blame on Israel. Currently, Hamas leaders cannot leave the Gaza Strip without Egypt’s permission. They are afraid to embarrass the Egyptians lest they be banned from leaving the Gaza Strip completely.

Some Palestinians have argued that the “March of Return” is also aimed at ending the blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s violent takeover of the coastal enclave in the summer of 2007.

Despite the blockade, however, Israel has kept its border crossing with the Gaza Strip open, except for times when Hamas and other armed groups carry out terror attacks against Israelis. Even then, Israel closes the border crossings only for a few hours or days.

The civilian and commercial border crossings have also been open to some Palestinians and foreign nationals who enter and leave the Gaza Strip on an almost daily basis.

All eyes, then, are set on the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel — but what about Gaza’s other border crossing, the one with Egypt?

(full article online)

Palestinians: The Real Gaza Blockade

Egypt gets its marching orders and a couple billion a year from the US.

since Hamas’s violent takeover of the coastal enclave in the summer of 2007.

Hamas was the elected government in Palestine.

Hamas' own Pom Pom boy.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The IDF bombed a Hamas position in Gaza on Sunday morning that was responsible for launching burning kites into Israel.

"We will continue to act against terrorist acts above and below ground, and we see the Hamas terrorist organization as solely responsible for what is going on in and out of the Gaza Strip," said the IDF.

The bombing comes as the military attempts to contend with the phenomenon of Gazans launching burning kites into Israel. In recent weeks, during the violent riots by Gazans along the border, the rioters have flown kites with firebombs attached to them into Israeli territory with the purpose of burning down fields belonging to Israeli farmers.


(full article and video online)

IDF bombs Hamas position that launched burning kites into Israel