parents say good by to baby charlie

There is something grotesque about having the money to pay for treatment and being prohibited by law from receiving that treatment.

That is what makes socialized medicine so reprehensible.
 
Very sad news. :(


Why not let that baby have a chance?

Why??

Human stupidity knows no bounds.
 
More than just Charlie, this was an experimental treatment. Volumes could have been learned that would benefit the next baby down the line.

Why is the left so anti science?
 
Very sad news. :(


Why not let that baby have a chance?

Why??

Human stupidity knows no bounds.

Was that baby suffering? A lot, and getting worse? I don't know, but I can see why a loving parent would not want their baby to continue suffering, especially if there is no positive news on the horizon. What have they been told in the last few days, either by the Brits or the American doctor who I believe went over there to consult? They said the window has closed, which sounds like the baby's chances were heading south. What I'm saying is, I'm not sure the worst option for the baby was death, sad as that is.
 
Very sad news. :(


Why not let that baby have a chance?

Why??

Human stupidity knows no bounds.

Was that baby suffering? A lot, and getting worse? I don't know, but I can see why a loving parent would not want their baby to continue suffering, especially if there is no positive news on the horizon. What have they been told in the last few days, either by the Brits or the American doctor who I believe went over there to consult? They said the window has closed, which sounds like the baby's chances were heading south. What I'm saying is, I'm not sure the worst option for the baby was death, sad as that is.


-"The lawyers said if Charlie had been able to have the treatment they had suggested earlier, then there might have been hope."-

I guess is too late now. Sad.
 
Very sad news. :(


Why not let that baby have a chance?

Why??

Human stupidity knows no bounds.

Was that baby suffering? A lot, and getting worse? I don't know, but I can see why a loving parent would not want their baby to continue suffering, especially if there is no positive news on the horizon. What have they been told in the last few days, either by the Brits or the American doctor who I believe went over there to consult? They said the window has closed, which sounds like the baby's chances were heading south. What I'm saying is, I'm not sure the worst option for the baby was death, sad as that is.


-"The lawyers said if Charlie had been able to have the treatment they had suggested earlier, then there might have been hope."-

I guess is too late now. Sad.

Definitely sad, it's hard to see any justification for not allowing that baby to get treatment that might have saved his life. I can however see the possibility that some parents might want to keep their child alive no matter how much he or she is suffering, possibly for religious reasons. So maybe there could be cases where the court has to step in and say enough is enough. There has to be an independent advocate for the child IMHO; there isn't going to be a perfect system that always arrives at the best answer. Going against the parents wishes though should be a tough sell, who's going to love that child and want what's best for him/her than they are.
 
There is something grotesque about having the money to pay for treatment and being prohibited by law from receiving that treatment.

That is what makes socialized medicine so reprehensible.
This is where we're headed. It was Obama/Hillarys plan for the country
 
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The parents didn't merely want to keep the child alive needlessly but to give a new form of treatment a chance to work. Treatment that they intended to pay for. There is no justification for ordering the baby's death, none.

At another time, these are the same people who would have denied antibiotics to a child with pneumonia.
 
"The lawyers said if Charlie had been able to have the treatment they had suggested earlier, then there might have been hope."-

I guess is too late now. Sad.

We'll never know since, the State decided the child was the State's/village and not the parent's child
 
What a beautiful baby. Prayers for the family. May they heal knowing they went the distance.

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seems the parents are letting go of baby charlie...they have fought the government and tried to get experimental treatment to no avail....i will admit my reaction to this at first was wtf? why did you keep the child alive this long...then sorrow that perhaps had the child had the oral treatments sooner he may have made it....

it is a great sorrow to see a wanted child die
I wonder if the American Doctor Who went there to examine baby Charlie determined that there is nothing he could do for him either?
 
the one question i have...why not just send the meds over there...what excuse was there for not doing that? and what is so rare about this oral med that it cant be compounded overseas
You don't know what the treatment is, do you, or how the care is monitored?

Doctors from the provider went to England and even they could not provide the treatment there. The child had to be brought here, the same way child cancer patients are taken to St. Jude and St. Jude is not taken to child cancer patients.

The lesson learned is under socialized medicine, medical care will be prohibited even if you can pay for it yourself.
That's right. Otherwise it would be unfair to the poor...
Unfair to the poor? Are you nuts? The whole point of being rich is to be able to pay for your own survival. Why should the rich die because the poor cant afford the same healthcare?
 
There is only one truth. There was a treatment available. The parents could afford to pay for the treatment. The government prohibited the treatment. That's the only truth. Whether this experimental treatment would work has nothing to do with whether it should have been given. No one knew what penicillin would do either.

That the doctor has a financial interest in the company is hogwash. So he believed in the treatment enough to invest in it. Big deal. In socialism making a profit is always bad. It's part of socialism. It's the reason why innovation never comes out of socialist countries.

This was a travesty.
 
Baby Charlie Gard passes away...
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Charlie Gard dies in hospice care
July 28, 2017 -- Charlie Gard, the terminally ill 11-month-old at the center of a high-profile court case, has died in hospice care, his parents announced Friday.
The baby, who died days shy of his first birthday, had a rare genetic disease that left him unable to move or breathe. "Our beautiful little boy has gone, we are so proud of you Charlie," his mother, Connie Yates said in a statement. On Monday, the parents ended a months-long legal battle to take him to the United States for experimental therapy with an American neurologist. The child's parents raised nearly $2 million in the failed bid to take him to the United States for treatment.

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Charlie Gard, the 11-month-old baby whose parents battled the courts to take him to the United States for treatment, has died, his family said Friday​

In Britain, courts make right-to-life decisions, not patients or families. Doctors in Britain said the experimental theory had little chance of success and said it was in Charlie's best interests to shut off life support. The American doctor who offered the treatment flew to Britain to examine Charlie and determined the therapy would fail. "The window of opportunity no longer exists," the parents' lawyer, Grant Armstrong, told the British High Court in London on Monday. "For Charlie, it is too late ... treatment cannot offer a chance of success."

Thursday, High Court Judge Nicholas Francis had given Charlie's parents until noon to come up with a plan with the hospital treating him to put him in hospice care. He was moved to hospice, where his ventilator was shut off.

Charlie Gard dies in hospice care

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Charlie Gard parents announce death of 'beautiful boy'
Fri, 28 Jul 2017 - The baby's parents, who fought a court battle over his treatment, say they are "so proud of him".
Charlie Gard, the baby at the centre of a legal row over his treatment, has died, a family spokesman has confirmed. The 11-month-old was moved to a hospice following a High Court ruling. He suffered from an extremely rare genetic condition causing progressive brain damage and muscle weakness. His parents, Connie Yates and Chris Gard, fought a lengthy legal battle with Great Ormond Street Hospital (GOSH) to allow him to be taken to the US for treatment. But on Monday they dropped their legal battle after Prof Michio Hirano, the American neurologist who had offered to treat him, said it was too late for it to work.

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Chris Gard and Connie Yates fought a five-month legal battle on behalf of their son​

In a statement issued on Friday evening, Ms Yates said: "Our beautiful little boy has gone, we are so proud of you Charlie." Prime Minister Theresa May said: "I am deeply saddened by the death of Charlie Gard. My thoughts and prayers are with Charlie's parents Chris and Connie at this difficult time." Pope Francis tweeted: "I entrust little Charlie to the Father and pray for his parents and all those who loved him." GOSH said it sent its "heartfelt condolences" to Charlie's parents and loved ones. US Vice-President Mike Pence tweeted: "Saddened to hear of the passing of Charlie Gard. Karen & I offer our prayers & condolences to his loving parents during this difficult time."

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Charlie has been in intensive care since October​

On Thursday, Ms Yates said the couple had been denied their "final wish" to have more time with him after a High Court judge ruled that he would be moved to a hospice and have his life support withdrawn soon after. The couple had wanted to take their son to the US for nucleoside bypass therapy, but specialists at GOSH said the treatment was experimental and that Charlie had irreversible brain damage. Hundreds of people - called Charlie's Army - lent their support to his parents, who raised £1.35m to take him to the US for treatment.

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HIs parents have described him as an "absolute warrior"​

The couple fought a legal battle for five months, in which judges from the High Court, Supreme Court and the European Court all agreed with doctors that the treatment would not benefit Charlie. Charlie's plight attracted the attention of Pope Francis and US president Donald Trump. Following the European Court ruling, the Pope said he was following the case "with affection and sadness". In a statement released earlier this month, the Vatican said: "For them he prays, hoping that their desire to accompany and care for their own child to the end is not ignored." The US president then offered his support, tweeting: "If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so."

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