Pelosi already wanting more gun laws

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Background checks for individual sales.

You mean requiring person A to do a background check on person B before he sells a gun to person B?

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[BULLDOG]

It will work exactly like background checks from gun dealers do. An individual sells a gun, a small fee is charged for the purchaser's background check. Will some ignore the law? yep. Will most responsible gun sellers follow the law? yep. No, it's not 100% effective, but it will make it much harder for a thug to get a gun. Our laws against robbing banks aren't 100% effective either, but they are still worthwhile.

Laws against thugs getting a gun are unconstitutional. Unless you remove their constitutional rights for being law offenders first.

Don't be silly. Background checks are done by registered gun dealers every day, and thugs with a criminal record are denied on a regular basis.

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

 

[BULLDOG]

Background checks for individual sales.

You mean requiring person A to do a background check on person B before he sells a gun to person B?

.

Yes, only Person A wouldn't actually do the check. He would have it done just like licensed dealers do.

 

[Slyhunter]

Laws against thugs getting a gun are unconstitutional. Unless you remove their constitutional rights for being law offenders first.

Don't be silly. Background checks are done by registered gun dealers every day, and thugs with a criminal record are denied on a regular basis.

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Republicans need to push for a Voting Registry UBC

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

We need a mental health question for buying a gun. Did you voter for Obammy twice?

 

[Crixus]

Laws against thugs getting a gun are unconstitutional. Unless you remove their constitutional rights for being law offenders first.

Don't be silly. Background checks are done by registered gun dealers every day, and thugs with a criminal record are denied on a regular basis.

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

They don’t prevent common gun crimes either. All those folks who got turned away, you think they stopped trying to get a gun? Think none of them got a gun? So making it illegal to sell a gun to another guy with out a background check really is pointless.

 

[BULLDOG]

Don't be silly. Background checks are done by registered gun dealers every day, and thugs with a criminal record are denied on a regular basis.

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

 

[BULLDOG]

Don't be silly. Background checks are done by registered gun dealers every day, and thugs with a criminal record are denied on a regular basis.

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

They don’t prevent common gun crimes either. All those folks who got turned away, you think they stopped trying to get a gun? Think none of them got a gun? So making it illegal to sell a gun to another guy with out a background check really is pointless.

Reducing the available guns they can buy by half or more is not pointless. I strongly believe it would be quite a bit more than half.

 

[Slyhunter]

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

All laws that restrict guns from law abiding citizens, regardless of their history, are unconstitutional.
You can't force them to restrict their use of free speech nor can you restrict their ability to buy weapons.
Not if you abide by the constitution.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The asshole Democrats are hell bent to destroy our Civil Rights by having a UBC for firearms.

Despicable.

Not only do the assholes want UBC but also a gun registry.

The men that stood their ground at Lexington when the fucking government wanted to take away their arms would be turning over in their graves, wouldn't they?

House Democrats' Gun Control Unenforceable Without Firearm Registry

House Democrats’ Gun Control Unenforceable Without Firearm Registry

The gun control currently being pushed by House Democrats is unenforceable without a national firearm registry.

On January 8, 2019, Breitbart News reported that House Democrats introduced legislation to criminalize private gun sales. They are using universal background checks as a means of criminalizing the sales, and they do not mention such checks are unenforceable without firearm registration.

Instead, the Democrats keep talking of how their bill will “prevent” or reduce “gun violence.”

Politico quoted Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA) saying:

Since the shooting at Sandy Hook, the Gun Violence Prevention Task Force has been fighting for a chance to pass legislation that will help save lives. Finally, with our new majority that ran on helping to prevent gun violence, we will introduce a bipartisan, universal background checks bill. We will hold hearings, we will have a vote, and this legislation will finally pass the House.

But the reality is that universal background checks open the door to a gun registry inasmuch as the government has to know every gun owners’ name and the guns he or she owns in order for the checks to work.

Think about it — universal background checks require that Americans get permission from the government before buying a gun in any setting, retail or private. This means the government knows every time a gun changes hands, and this includes knowing the name of the buyer and the seller, of the make and caliber of the gun, etc. But the only way the government can know these things is to know exactly who owns guns — and what guns he or she owns — at every moment of every day.

Excellent. We need a national database and universal background checks. And every transaction registered.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Much easier to start with a Voter UBC first, as there's no "right to Vote" in the Constitution

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The asshole Democrats are hell bent to destroy our Civil Rights by having a UBC for firearms.

Despicable.

Not only do the assholes want UBC but also a gun registry.

The men that stood their ground at Lexington when the fucking government wanted to take away their arms would be turning over in their graves, wouldn't they?

House Democrats' Gun Control Unenforceable Without Firearm Registry

House Democrats’ Gun Control Unenforceable Without Firearm Registry

The gun control currently being pushed by House Democrats is unenforceable without a national firearm registry.

On January 8, 2019, Breitbart News reported that House Democrats introduced legislation to criminalize private gun sales. They are using universal background checks as a means of criminalizing the sales, and they do not mention such checks are unenforceable without firearm registration.

Instead, the Democrats keep talking of how their bill will “prevent” or reduce “gun violence.”

Politico quoted Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA) saying:

Since the shooting at Sandy Hook, the Gun Violence Prevention Task Force has been fighting for a chance to pass legislation that will help save lives. Finally, with our new majority that ran on helping to prevent gun violence, we will introduce a bipartisan, universal background checks bill. We will hold hearings, we will have a vote, and this legislation will finally pass the House.

But the reality is that universal background checks open the door to a gun registry inasmuch as the government has to know every gun owners’ name and the guns he or she owns in order for the checks to work.

Think about it — universal background checks require that Americans get permission from the government before buying a gun in any setting, retail or private. This means the government knows every time a gun changes hands, and this includes knowing the name of the buyer and the seller, of the make and caliber of the gun, etc. But the only way the government can know these things is to know exactly who owns guns — and what guns he or she owns — at every moment of every day.

Excellent. We need a national database and universal background checks. And every transaction registered.

We need a national database and universal background checks. And every voter registered

 

[BULLDOG]

Don't be silly. Background checks are done by registered gun dealers every day, and thugs with a criminal record are denied on a regular basis.

unconstitutional.
Where does it say in the constitution "except for those with criminal backgrounds"?

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

They don’t prevent common gun crimes either. All those folks who got turned away, you think they stopped trying to get a gun? Think none of them got a gun? So making it illegal to sell a gun to another guy with out a background check really is pointless.

Got it. The old "It's not 100% effective, so it's useless" claim. People who want drugs are going to get them anyway, so don't worry about that drug dealer at the park where your kid plays. Same thing, right?

 

[BULLDOG]

Are background checks at licensed dealers limited to only those with criminal backgrounds, or do they check everybody?

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

All laws that restrict guns from law abiding citizens, regardless of their history, are unconstitutional.
You can't force them to restrict their use of free speech nor can you restrict their ability to buy weapons.
Not if you abide by the constitution.

The Supreme Court said gun regulation is not restricting gun rights.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

All laws that restrict guns from law abiding citizens, regardless of their history, are unconstitutional.
You can't force them to restrict their use of free speech nor can you restrict their ability to buy weapons.
Not if you abide by the constitution.

The Supreme Court said gun regulation is not restricting gun rights.

Same thing with Voters

UBC Questions the democrat Party adamantly opposes as an "existential threat"

1. Are you alive
2. Are you a Citizen
3. Are you a real person
4. How many times have you voted so far today

Voter UBC

 

[Slyhunter]

They check everyone, but no background check stopped say, plus night club, or the Vegas thing. Nothing in the “universal background” check did anything there to stop any high profile shooting since the Guy in the clock tower in Austin, Hell, even back to the Lincoln assassination of you want. So the background check aspect has failed miserably. So what else in the “universal background check” thing will curb gun violence as they promos it will?

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

All laws that restrict guns from law abiding citizens, regardless of their history, are unconstitutional.
You can't force them to restrict their use of free speech nor can you restrict their ability to buy weapons.
Not if you abide by the constitution.

The Supreme Court said gun regulation is not restricting gun rights.

If someone can't legally hold a loaded gun in their possession then their gun rights are being restricted.

 

[BULLDOG]

Mass shootings are a different subject that will require different solutions, but we can discuss that later if you want to. I doubt anyone ever told you background checks would stop all mass shootings, even if that is one of the gun nuts favorite sayings. Perhaps you could point to a credible specific quote to document that?

I know that reducing available guns to those that shouldn't have them by half or more is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

All laws that restrict guns from law abiding citizens, regardless of their history, are unconstitutional.
You can't force them to restrict their use of free speech nor can you restrict their ability to buy weapons.
Not if you abide by the constitution.

The Supreme Court said gun regulation is not restricting gun rights.

If someone can't legally hold a loaded gun in their possession then their gun rights are being restricted.

If he can't legally hold a gun, he has no gun rights.

 

[Anathema]

You know we will eventually have universal background checks. You can fight it if you want, but we both know that in the end you will lose.

But who/what is going to force the gun owners to comply? My guns will never be registered. If this passes, I will make all future sales and purchases through the black market.

 

[Slyhunter]

reducing a persons rights that shouldn't have rights, according to whom?

Wanna try that again? Try to make sense this time.

All laws that restrict guns from law abiding citizens, regardless of their history, are unconstitutional.
You can't force them to restrict their use of free speech nor can you restrict their ability to buy weapons.
Not if you abide by the constitution.

The Supreme Court said gun regulation is not restricting gun rights.

If someone can't legally hold a loaded gun in their possession then their gun rights are being restricted.

If he can't legally hold a gun, he has no gun rights.

Because you stripped them of his rights? What authority do you have to strip him of his rights? Where in the constitution does it say you can do that? If he paid his debt to society and is a free man he's free to vote and carry weapons.