Pelosi and House Democrats Screw Up Everything Again

[evenflow1969]

Pelosi says House will draft its own coronavirus funding bill
Senate Republicans and OUR President are trying to help the situation during this time of crisis, but House Democrats throw a monkey wrench into the motor again. Great job Pelosi on wasting precious time and resources trying to overturn election 2016 with your dumbassed impeachment. Bunch of buffoons.

yep,they are just supposed to bend over and do what ever the retards,I mean repugs want. maybe next time do a littlle better job with the bill so there is enough support.dumbass

 

[beagle9]

Can you tell us what Pelosi added to the bill?

No I couldn’t because it was all fluff. If she had good ideas she’d be on tv right now trying to make the GOP look bad. Problem is, this was a bipartisan bill, and the GOP caved on a lot to get it passed. She came in with a list of demands, last minute, that weren’t going to pass. Like I said, if she had something of substance, she’d be on tv right now telling us. Or she would’ve not waited until the last fucking minute. All weekend senate dems and GOP have been putting this thing together. No, this was a clear block to tank the already tanking markets. She’s fucking over our 401Ks right now, hard. But it’s going to also tank the states who are going to be shelling out unemployment to 30% of the people. The same states that are gonna be on the frontlines fighting the virus. This is all about the politics, and the upcoming election. This is a new low.

Pelosi just can't do this. Surely her sheep won't follow her on this block. Partisan politics has to stop NOW!! Is there nothing that woman wouldn't do to get Trump...even sink this country into depression.

Woman ? Don't forget about all the other demoncrats that are with her all the way. I said it before, and I'll say it again, "they will stoop to any level to get Trump". They are unhinged.

 

[colfax_m]

Nancy Pelosi has blood on her hands. There's a special place in hell reserved for her.

For what now?

Obstruction.

Of what?

Read the news.

I assume you are accusing Pelosi of murder for not allowing a massive taxpayer wealth redistribution bill?

Seems pretty hyperbolic you me.

I'm accusing Pelosi of obstructing a bill that would help the American people. Everything was going along fine until she stuck her nose in it to fund Democrat pet projects. You know that, so don't insult the People's intelligence

Pelosi is on a power trip, still butthurt over the failed impeachment and Trump calling her a third rate politician.

Pelosi is standing up for working Americans

Right, by denying them immediate financial assistance she's helping them. What are you smoking lib??

Isn’t that what she already did by extending paid sick leave to American workers.

Most Americans don't get paid sick leave, only union members.

They do now thanks to Pelosi.

 

[CowboyTed]

The bill created with bipartisan support in the senate, with many concessions made by the GOP, was shot down as Nancy Pelosi (a congresswoman not a senator) stepped in last minute with a list of demands. The bill promised 1.8 trillion in relief to individual families with a 3,000$ check, 500 billion to financially aid states and cities in need, and support for business loosing money that have been forced to shut down.

Markets crashing is "good news" for the Democrat Party. They think that it will get their god, Biden, the Presidency. But what they are failing to realize is that people don't blame President Trump for the coronavirus and want this matter resolved. Not extended for politics. I was talking to an African American broad on Facebook today, absolutely livid that the nail salons are closed.

Right it is congress that writes law, what fucking schools did you go to?

Pelosi was faithfully negotiating with GOP congress while Mitch went around her back to put in a crony friendly bill... Why didn't join the negotiations? Why did he undermine the process...

Even Trump asked why the $500bn is been given to Corporations with no oversight...

Finally, the GOP are the guys who FUCKED this up... Played down response, rem the HOAX,..... And you want to put them in charge now... They have shown to be incompetent from the start... Fauci spends his day correcting the bumbling President...

Democrats would rather invest the money in the people... The GOP only want socialism for corporations, people can go fuck themselves...

The GOP bill is nothing but Porkulus to Corporate America while it ignores the plight of working Americans

Corporate America provides JOBS for working Americans. If Corporate America is flat on its back, they can't do that. If the government sends Welfare Checks to working Americans, they may have money , but they don't have jobs. So, as a result, the government has to continue sending them money. I suppose that President Trump could send the Middle Class "Trump Money" and provide them with Trump Phones, but really that kind of arrangement in unsustainable.

Its better to try and get people working.

Great, you believe in Corporate Cronyism rather than Social Democracy...

GOP are the ones that went behind Dems back and introducing a bill while in negotiations with Dems. It is a political stunt in a crisis...

This is $500bn with no oversight... Trump has already expressed views to give money to Hotel and Oil industry...

This all while Hospitals are not getting the money they asked for...

GOP are using there mishandling of a health crisis as a reason for crony corporate handout.

 

[colfax_m]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

 

[BrokeLoser]

One of the provisions Trump tried to sneak into the corporate bailout slush fund was allowing Treasury to delay disclosing for six months who gets these funds.

So much for transparency, folks.

Should we go on 'because you said so' or do you have a link to your source?

 

[BS Filter]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

Nope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.

 

[colfax_m]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

Nope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.

Hells bells man, 34,000 people died of Influenza last year and Trump did nothing, so he’s responsible for way worse, then isn’t he?

 

[Polishprince]

The bill created with bipartisan support in the senate, with many concessions made by the GOP, was shot down as Nancy Pelosi (a congresswoman not a senator) stepped in last minute with a list of demands. The bill promised 1.8 trillion in relief to individual families with a 3,000$ check, 500 billion to financially aid states and cities in need, and support for business loosing money that have been forced to shut down.

Markets crashing is "good news" for the Democrat Party. They think that it will get their god, Biden, the Presidency. But what they are failing to realize is that people don't blame President Trump for the coronavirus and want this matter resolved. Not extended for politics. I was talking to an African American broad on Facebook today, absolutely livid that the nail salons are closed.

Right it is congress that writes law, what fucking schools did you go to?

Pelosi was faithfully negotiating with GOP congress while Mitch went around her back to put in a crony friendly bill... Why didn't join the negotiations? Why did he undermine the process...

Even Trump asked why the $500bn is been given to Corporations with no oversight...

Finally, the GOP are the guys who FUCKED this up... Played down response, rem the HOAX,..... And you want to put them in charge now... They have shown to be incompetent from the start... Fauci spends his day correcting the bumbling President...

Democrats would rather invest the money in the people... The GOP only want socialism for corporations, people can go fuck themselves...

The GOP bill is nothing but Porkulus to Corporate America while it ignores the plight of working Americans

Corporate America provides JOBS for working Americans. If Corporate America is flat on its back, they can't do that. If the government sends Welfare Checks to working Americans, they may have money , but they don't have jobs. So, as a result, the government has to continue sending them money. I suppose that President Trump could send the Middle Class "Trump Money" and provide them with Trump Phones, but really that kind of arrangement in unsustainable.

Its better to try and get people working.

Great, you believe in Corporate Cronyism rather than Social Democracy...

GOP are the ones that went behind Dems back and introducing a bill while in negotiations with Dems. It is a political stunt in a crisis...

This is $500bn with no oversight... Trump has already expressed views to give money to Hotel and Oil industry...

This all while Hospitals are not getting the money they asked for...

GOP are using there mishandling of a health crisis as a reason for crony corporate handout.

The hotel biz is really suffering as people aren't traveling. Guys like the tremendous Sheldon Adelson are taking it on the chin big time.

Mr. Adelson didn't start the coronavirus thing, but he is really suffering hugely. Shouldn't this proud senior citizen, and his old lady who is the proud recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom, be reduced to poverty?

 

[SweetSue92]

Nancy Pelosi has blood on her hands. There's a special place in hell reserved for her.

For what now?

Obstruction.

Of what?

Read the news.

I assume you are accusing Pelosi of murder for not allowing a massive taxpayer wealth redistribution bill?

Seems pretty hyperbolic you me.

I'm accusing Pelosi of obstructing a bill that would help the American people. Everything was going along fine until she stuck her nose in it to fund Democrat pet projects. You know that, so don't insult the People's intelligence

Pelosi is on a power trip, still butthurt over the failed impeachment and Trump calling her a third rate politician.

Pelosi is standing up for working Americans

How much do the Democrats pay you to post here?

If they don't I'm going to start laughing

 

[BS Filter]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

Nope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.

Hells bells man, 34,000 people died of Influenza last year and Trump did nothing, so he’s responsible for way worse, then isn’t he?

More than that died from the flu when Obungo was President. You're hilarious

 

[colfax_m]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

Nope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.

Hells bells man, 34,000 people died of Influenza last year and Trump did nothing, so he’s responsible for way worse, then isn’t he?

More than that died from the flu when Obungo was President. You're hilarious

34000 > 12000 is it not?

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[SmokeALib]

Most middle class Americans need relief from their two largest monthly bills - mortgage and car payments. I'd take that for a couple months over a 1000 check.

 

[BS Filter]

They discovered who the Chinese guy was that started the coronavirus. His name was Aou Chu.

 

[BS Filter]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

Nope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.

Hells bells man, 34,000 people died of Influenza last year and Trump did nothing, so he’s responsible for way worse, then isn’t he?

More than that died from the flu when Obungo was President. You're hilarious

34000 > 12000 is it not?

You're confused.

 

[colfax_m]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.

I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?

Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.

Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?

Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?

I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?

Nope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.

Hells bells man, 34,000 people died of Influenza last year and Trump did nothing, so he’s responsible for way worse, then isn’t he?

More than that died from the flu when Obungo was President. You're hilarious

34000 > 12000 is it not?

You're confused.

Not really. You’re saying Obama failed to do anything about 12000 flu deaths in 2009 but can’t seem to say the same about 34000 flu deaths in 2018.

Why don’t you care?

 

[Mike473]

Most middle class Americans need relief from their two largest monthly bills - mortgage and car payments. I'd take that for a couple months over a 1000 check.

You are in luck, because they are going to give you something even better. Solar panels and the knowledge those jet airliners are going to be much more fuel efficient. They are going big here.

 

[eagle1462010]

The bill created with bipartisan support in the senate, with many concessions made by the GOP, was shot down as Nancy Pelosi (a congresswoman not a senator) stepped in last minute with a list of demands. The bill promised 1.8 trillion in relief to individual families with a 3,000$ check, 500 billion to financially aid states and cities in need, and support for business loosing money that have been forced to shut down.

Markets crashing is "good news" for the Democrat Party. They think that it will get their god, Biden, the Presidency. But what they are failing to realize is that people don't blame President Trump for the coronavirus and want this matter resolved. Not extended for politics. I was talking to an African American broad on Facebook today, absolutely livid that the nail salons are closed.

Right it is congress that writes law, what fucking schools did you go to?

Pelosi was faithfully negotiating with GOP congress while Mitch went around her back to put in a crony friendly bill... Why didn't join the negotiations? Why did he undermine the process...

Even Trump asked why the $500bn is been given to Corporations with no oversight...

Finally, the GOP are the guys who FUCKED this up... Played down response, rem the HOAX,..... And you want to put them in charge now... They have shown to be incompetent from the start... Fauci spends his day correcting the bumbling President...

Democrats would rather invest the money in the people... The GOP only want socialism for corporations, people can go fuck themselves...

The GOP bill is nothing but Porkulus to Corporate America while it ignores the plight of working Americans

One liner troll machine at work here........please be quiet while the man keeps working........LOL

 

[CowboyTed]

The bill created with bipartisan support in the senate, with many concessions made by the GOP, was shot down as Nancy Pelosi (a congresswoman not a senator) stepped in last minute with a list of demands. The bill promised 1.8 trillion in relief to individual families with a 3,000$ check, 500 billion to financially aid states and cities in need, and support for business loosing money that have been forced to shut down.

Markets crashing is "good news" for the Democrat Party. They think that it will get their god, Biden, the Presidency. But what they are failing to realize is that people don't blame President Trump for the coronavirus and want this matter resolved. Not extended for politics. I was talking to an African American broad on Facebook today, absolutely livid that the nail salons are closed.

Right it is congress that writes law, what fucking schools did you go to?

Pelosi was faithfully negotiating with GOP congress while Mitch went around her back to put in a crony friendly bill... Why didn't join the negotiations? Why did he undermine the process...

Even Trump asked why the $500bn is been given to Corporations with no oversight...

Finally, the GOP are the guys who FUCKED this up... Played down response, rem the HOAX,..... And you want to put them in charge now... They have shown to be incompetent from the start... Fauci spends his day correcting the bumbling President...

Democrats would rather invest the money in the people... The GOP only want socialism for corporations, people can go fuck themselves...

The GOP bill is nothing but Porkulus to Corporate America while it ignores the plight of working Americans

Corporate America provides JOBS for working Americans. If Corporate America is flat on its back, they can't do that. If the government sends Welfare Checks to working Americans, they may have money , but they don't have jobs. So, as a result, the government has to continue sending them money. I suppose that President Trump could send the Middle Class "Trump Money" and provide them with Trump Phones, but really that kind of arrangement in unsustainable.

Its better to try and get people working.

Great, you believe in Corporate Cronyism rather than Social Democracy...

GOP are the ones that went behind Dems back and introducing a bill while in negotiations with Dems. It is a political stunt in a crisis...

This is $500bn with no oversight... Trump has already expressed views to give money to Hotel and Oil industry...

This all while Hospitals are not getting the money they asked for...

GOP are using there mishandling of a health crisis as a reason for crony corporate handout.

The hotel biz is really suffering as people aren't traveling. Guys like the tremendous Sheldon Adelson are taking it on the chin big time.

Mr. Adelson didn't start the coronavirus thing, but he is really suffering hugely. Shouldn't this proud senior citizen, and his old lady who is the proud recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom, be reduced to poverty?

Well he did give $112m to the GOP and Trump.. Crony Capitalism, paying him back with Taxpayers money...
Sheldon is worth $14bn, this crisis could cost him a billion dollars... How could he survive...

When does it just become bribery?