Pelosi and House Democrats Screw Up Everything Again

[colfax_m]

I think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.

The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....

Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysis

Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.

You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.

Not exactly.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.

Flights continued between the two countries.

You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.

For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.

COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.

No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.

Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.

The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.

Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.

Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.

If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.

Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.

What more could he have done? give us specific actions and times that could have been done. You said he was racist when he banned travel from China, BTW, chinese is not a race.

You said banning travel from China would prevent any outbreak in the US.

No one ever said it would prevent any outbreak. Trump and everyone else who knows anything said that banning travel from China would limit the impact on the US and it did.

Nancy Pelosi has blood on her hands. There's a special place in hell reserved for her.

For what now?

Obstruction.

Of what?

Read the news.

I assume you are accusing Pelosi of murder for not allowing a massive taxpayer wealth redistribution bill?

Seems pretty hyperbolic you me.

I'm accusing Pelosi of obstructing a bill that would help the American people. Everything was going along fine until she stuck her nose in it to fund Democrat pet projects. You know that, so don't insult the People's intelligence

But those are NOT the reasons the bill is being held up.

The biggest sticking point is the $500bn that Trump wants to control..

$500 billion of Corporate Porkulus

Sadly. Like

Go Nancy Go Nancy Go Nancy.

March 13, 2020 Pelosi and Mnuckin crafted a bill that Trump’s is willing to sign. Sent to Mitch it was totally overhauled.

Trump Says He Supports Pelosi Virus Bill, Urges GOP to Vote Yes

President Donald Trump said he supports the bill negotiated by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and his Treasury secretary to help Americans deal with the spreading coronavirus outbreak, and the House plans to vote on the measure as early as Friday night.

“I fully support H.R. 6201: Families First CoronaVirus Response Act, which will be voted on in the House this evening,” Trump tweeted. “I encourage all Republicans and Democrats to come together and VOTE YES! I will always put the health and well-being of American families FIRST. Look forward to signing the final Bill, ASAP!“

He did, as negotuated originally. Here is the Date of your source kid,
"March 13, 2020, 6:10 PM EDTUpdated on March 13, 2020, 10:33 PM EDT "

Dems killed it on purpose.

Dates? What does it mean? Linky Linky?

Why shoulda/woulda Democrats killed it?

.

they killed it because they saw an opportunity for ram some of their leftist agenda items into it. They don't give a shit about the american people who are hurting, its all about their fricken agenda and power. Wake up america, the dem party is out to destroy this nation.

I don’t expect Trump supporters like you knows or even understand the bill or what is going on. I’m not surprised. Let me update your ignorance. Pay attention. ALL OF YOU.

1. Pelosi & Mnuckin crafted a bill that Trump is willing to sign. March 13/20.
2. McConnell created his own bill while the rest of his goons are still on recess less Democrats. Bill consist of Republicans pet projects. And the $500bn for the large corporations. This is the bill they are fighting.
3. Now Pelosi added Democrats pet projects. But this is not the sticking point. It’s the $500bn for the large corporations that corrupt Trump wants to control.

You got that?

McConnel and the rest of senate can go to hell.

Sory kid, no. They had an agreement Nancy flew back to DC and made Chuck R Cheese stall it out. It IS about all of that pork trash she tried to slide by, of course a hack like you will defend her to the deah.

Wrong kid.
Go back and read the sequence how this pet projects came up.
Here’s the problem. You and your buddies here are not paying attention or following the bill who, what why is being presented or created.
Now there’s a held up. SUDDENLY you and the rest of ignorant Americans become an expert. In reality you and the rest here don’t know anything but pure false accusations.

You do know that senate republicans has their own pet projects. You do know that right?

The bill they are fighting was created by McConnell without the Democrats Schumer involvements. With the $500bn sticking point. How do you expect that to pass?

Status:
1. $500bn sticking point. Not Pelosi added projects.
2. Currently Schumer & Mnuckin are negotiating without impotent McConnell.

You are a rookie.

Nope, you're a liar. I've been watching the entie thing, I have no doubt you are cheering Ole nancy on, but she is the one killing it. You're in the wrong sandbox kid. Everyone here is eating your lunch. Like I said all you say is "Nuh-Uh".
You are an easy one to peg.

Youve been watching? Hannity, Fox & Friends? This is hilarious.
If I’m lying why don’t you prove it instead of giving me your usual nonsense rebuttal.
maybe if you try to watch other channels rather than stuck on faux trump news media you might learn something new..

(smile) No, I don't watch Hannity. I have posted several sources, you've posted none. Why? Because you are a liar and a hack, nothing more. Like I said honey, you're in the wrong sand box.

The McConnell bill was released less than a week ago, written by Republicans without input from Democrats, supposedly as a “starting point” for negotiations. That’s what’s occurring right now. Negotiations. Democrats objected immediately to a number of components. They should have a deal sometime soon.

Pelosi released an alternative. She didn’t “put” anything into the Senate bill because that’s not how the government works. She released an alternative proposal that appears at most aspirational.

In the end, the Senate will pass a compromise bill which will be passed unaltered by the House.

(sigh) They were near an agreement.

"
WASHINGTON — The Treasury secretary and the top Senate Democrat said late Monday that they were on the brink of a deal on a nearly $2 trillion emergency economic aid measure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic, after a marathon day of talks as Democrats demanded stronger protections for workers and restrictions for bailed-out businesses.

Hours after Democrats voted to block action on the plan until they secured concessions and the Senate dissolved into partisan sniping, Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the minority leader, and Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary, signaled that their private negotiations had yielded important breakthroughs that could clear the way for enactment of the plan within days.

Top Senate Democrat and Treasury Secretary Say They Are Near a Stimulus Deal (Published 2020)

Hours after Democrats blocked the nearly $2 trillion package, a marathon set of private negotiations appeared to have yielded important compromises.

www.nytimes.com

They are near agreement.

They were close yesterday. They’re closer today. That’s how these things work.

Negotiators Nearing Accord on U.S. Stimulus Package to Combat Coronavirus

Top lawmakers and the Trump administration worked to clear the remaining hurdles for a deal on an estimated $2 trillion stimulus package, a massive bill designed to shield the U.S. economy from the most drastic consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.wsj.com

What’s your point? Pelosi didn’t torpedo anything.

She sure did. Anybody who believes Schmer does anything without her permission has a screw loose. He follows her around like a puppy dog.

So you’re just making that up, right?

 

[bripat9643]

They will most likely give grants to the governors to distribute.

Nope. They’re giving Mnuchin a checkbook to hand money to whoedwe

Most of it will be to the hospital groups direct from the fed for aid.

Not the half trillion we are discussing

Democrats want to call them "corporate America." Also, big companies like Boeing provide thousands of jobs. Do want them to fail?

Nope. I just want accountability.

There will be restrictions on how the money is spent.

That’s what Dems are fighting for. Restrictions on how the money is spent. That’s not what Trump wants. He wants us to “trust him”.

Bullshit. We all know that the controverial stuff has nothing to do with the virus. It has to do with the Dims using this crisis to get an agenda passed that would never pass any other way.

 

[BS Filter]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

 

[BS Filter]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

And again you have no link to back up your claim.

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

And again you have no link to back up your claim.

of course I do. I always do.

Fight over $500 billion corporate loan funding holds up coronavirus stimulus

Democratic leaders are objecting to an ambitious Republican proposal to spend up to $500 billion to leverage loans to a variety of industries, ranging from airlines and energy companies to car…

thehill.com

 

[BS Filter]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

And again you have no link to back up your claim.

of course I do. I always do.

Fight over $500 billion corporate loan funding holds up coronavirus stimulus

Democratic leaders are objecting to an ambitious Republican proposal to spend up to $500 billion to leverage loans to a variety of industries, ranging from airlines and energy companies to car…

thehill.com

Loans. Do you know what loans are?

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

And again you have no link to back up your claim.

of course I do. I always do.

Fight over $500 billion corporate loan funding holds up coronavirus stimulus

Democratic leaders are objecting to an ambitious Republican proposal to spend up to $500 billion to leverage loans to a variety of industries, ranging from airlines and energy companies to car…

thehill.com

Loans. Do you know what loans are?

Yes, I do.

 

[iceberg]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

 

[BS Filter]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

And again you have no link to back up your claim.

of course I do. I always do.

Fight over $500 billion corporate loan funding holds up coronavirus stimulus

Democratic leaders are objecting to an ambitious Republican proposal to spend up to $500 billion to leverage loans to a variety of industries, ranging from airlines and energy companies to car…

thehill.com

Loans. Do you know what loans are?

Yes, I do.

Then try again because you once again are confused. I've pretty much given up on you.

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

And again you have no link to back up your claim.

of course I do. I always do.

Fight over $500 billion corporate loan funding holds up coronavirus stimulus

Democratic leaders are objecting to an ambitious Republican proposal to spend up to $500 billion to leverage loans to a variety of industries, ranging from airlines and energy companies to car…

thehill.com

Loans. Do you know what loans are?

Yes, I do.

Then try again because you once again are confused. I've pretty much given up on you.

Then why am I spending so much time getting you up to speed?

 

[DOTR]

I don't know if you realize this or not. But corporations have been really fucked over by the virus. And many joints may not be reopening if this last much longer. Unless help is provided to corporations, these people will lose their jobs permanently and become permanent wards of the state.

Workers must be protected in the meantime! That's who the Democrats are trying to protect. Trump and McConnell don't really give a shit about them.

How does not sending the checks protect workers?

Lol. Did you get an answer to that?

of course not

Trumps original idea was aimed *only* at helping workers..a payroll tax holiday. Non-workers would not have benefited. Their caterwauling about it makes it obvious what the real agenda is.

 

[bripat9643]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

Link?

 

[DOTR]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

So it doesn't have to satisfy the House. Is that what you are claiming?

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

So it doesn't have to satisfy the House. Is that what you are claiming?

I’m saying that the bill Pelosi introduced that has some people’s panties in a bunch is not a part of the Senate negotiations and is basically meaningless.

 

[iceberg]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

so you're saying she refuses to act in a bipartisan manner and must do her own thing, fuck everyone else. ie - what she is doing is "meaningless" - so in a time like this, why is she doing "meaningless" shit and why are you defending it?

got it.

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

so you're saying she refuses to act in a bipartisan manner and must do her own thing, fuck everyone else.

got it.

Pelosi hasn’t done shit yet. The bill hasn’t passed the Senate and is currently in negotiation to reach a compromise, you know, the thing that makes it bipartisan.

You don’t even know what the hell your screaming bloody murder over.

 

[iceberg]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

So it doesn't have to satisfy the House. Is that what you are claiming?

I’m saying that the bill Pelosi introduced that has some people’s panties in a bunch is not a part of the Senate negotiations and is basically meaningless.

then we do agree that pelosi's efforts are in fact, meaingless.

the question then is, why is she doing them when "meaningless" activities from our Gov is the last thing we need?

have fun with that grenade you created.

 

[colfax_m]

The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.

Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?

They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.

Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?

Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"

And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.

Again, do you have a link to that claim?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/why-we-cant-trust-trump-big-bailout-slush-fund/

Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.

Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?

It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.

Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.

Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?

Where's your link to that information?

McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill

Read the text here.

www.axios.com

Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.

That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.

meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.

what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?

She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.

Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?

So it doesn't have to satisfy the House. Is that what you are claiming?

I’m saying that the bill Pelosi introduced that has some people’s panties in a bunch is not a part of the Senate negotiations and is basically meaningless.

then we do agree that pelosi's efforts are in fact, meaingless.

the question then is, why is she doing them when "meaningless" activities from our Gov is the last thing we need?

have fun with that grenade you created.

Yes, they’re meaningless. So what? Why are you freaking out?