Pelosi, Democrats 'Beg' GOP To Fund 'Won't Cost A Dime' Obamacare

[Eaglewings]

Also...

Better save your money folks if they screw up Obamacare... You are a $$$ once you get cancer, heart attack or some other catastrophic illness..

The people who paid your congressmen off to get you sick by poisons and then steal your life savings worked out well for them...

So you agree Obama care is only for catastrophic illness and is not health care because the premiums and deductibles are to high.... Check


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With the high deductibles I would say yes...but Also insurance companies were really ripping people off before Obamacare..

So this rise in healthcare was going to happen anyway..

The Big Pharma , and Medical scams were worse than ever.. they still are and are the big voices behind how horrible Obamacare is..

.

Yes it would have risen regardless, but a liberal posted the facts on here a few days ago by accident..


In just a few years the rates rised faster then the past 10 years combined.


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I am not sure about that...

They got rid of the fines to make people buy insurance so why is there such a big huff from people like Bripat..lol..

Why, because they listened to Fox News all day

 

[AntonToo]

Well then you are clearly a wealthy asshole who doesn't care about his fellow man.

You're half right. I'm not a wealthy arsehole.

Trump thinks himself a decent guy too. He isn't.

 

[Eaglewings]

Also...

Better save your money folks if they screw up Obamacare... You are a $$$ once you get cancer, heart attack or some other catastrophic illness..

The people who paid your congressmen off to get you sick by poisons and then steal your life savings worked out well for them...

So you agree Obama care is only for catastrophic illness and is not health care because the premiums and deductibles are to high.... Check


.

With the high deductibles I would say yes...but Also insurance companies were really ripping people off before Obamacare..

So this rise in healthcare was going to happen anyway..

The Big Pharma , and Medical scams were worse than ever.. they still are and are the big voices behind how horrible Obamacare is..

.

Yes it would have risen regardless, but a liberal posted the facts on here a few days ago by accident..


In just a few years the rates rised faster then the past 10 years combined.


.

Also...these damn people in congress bitch about obamacare but let these F-king Big Pharma and Medical Scammers Rip off Americans and don't say a word.

Things used to be affordable without insurance...but not for years

 

[BuckToothMoron]

It pays out less because they don't pay what the provider charges. So many people don't have a choice for providers because the number of providers accepting Medicare is decreasing. As my MD put it, he's got to pay his bills to keep the lights on.

Moot point as to the discussion.

Ahh, gotcha. Moot because it's true and it demonstrates how poorly conceived any national healthcare scheme will be.

no, moot because MOOT dummy. We are discussing in this thread the financing of ACA provisions. Your post DOES NOT.

want to discuss something else? Go start another thread instead of diluting this one.

Very sensitive when your beloved socialized medicine scam begins to unravel, aren't you?

Very moron, aren't you?

Hahaha......it never gets old when you clever Libs use that slam. BTW tennis boi, you're the one who said medicare will be paying out less as a result of BOcare, and then got your g- string wedged when I explained what was occurring because of that fact.

 

[Eaglewings]

Fuck them and fuck obamacare! Time to give shit stain a parting gift

Write your congressman who care more for his re-election than what you think Fury..

Trump is going to try and do it on his own...I can feel it..

 

[AntonToo]

Moot point as to the discussion.

Ahh, gotcha. Moot because it's true and it demonstrates how poorly conceived any national healthcare scheme will be.

no, moot because MOOT dummy. We are discussing in this thread the financing of ACA provisions. Your post DOES NOT.

want to discuss something else? Go start another thread instead of diluting this one.

Very sensitive when your beloved socialized medicine scam begins to unravel, aren't you?

Very moron, aren't you?

Hahaha......it never gets old when you clever Libs use that slam. BTW tennis boi, you're the one who said medicare will be paying out less as a result of BOcare, and then got your g- string wedged when I explained what was occurring because of that fact.

Why would it get old now? You self-slam it on the daily mr.Moron.

BTW, ACA is paid for, not free

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[JimBowie1958]

Fuck them and fuck obamacare! Time to give shit stain a parting gift

At the cost of untold number of lives?

Can you be serious for a moment on the topic?

 

[FA_Q2]

If you thought the exodus of democrats out of Washington was huge - the Republicans would pay a far higher price than they did should they not address the problems that are coming out of Obamacare or try and simply take away the entitlements.

Sounds like you want to put party over country. If republicans really believe repealing the ACA is good for the country, why don't they do it? 8 years ago, Democrats did what they thought was best for the country, and passed a national healthcare bill at great political expense. Why did republicans counter with... a national healthcare bill, since national healthcare is so bad for America?

What in my statement makes you think that I put 'party over country.'

 

[FA_Q2]

Easy solution for the one party in charge... repeal and replace it!

Don't fund it - they said it would pay for itself - and let it collapse into the ground.

Sure do it! Let millions lose their healthcare and own credit for it happening!

Millions have already lost their healthcare, dumbass. Obamacare is utterly useless to any working American.

Really? Then how is it that more Americans have healthcare right now than in all of American history?

Insurance does not equal healthcare.

 

[DarkFury]

Fuck them and fuck obamacare! Time to give shit stain a parting gift

At the cost of untold number of lives?

Can you be serious for a moment on the topic?

No to socialized medicine period

 

[Wyatt earp]

Also...

Better save your money folks if they screw up Obamacare... You are a $$$ once you get cancer, heart attack or some other catastrophic illness..

The people who paid your congressmen off to get you sick by poisons and then steal your life savings worked out well for them...

So you agree Obama care is only for catastrophic illness and is not health care because the premiums and deductibles are to high.... Check


.

With the high deductibles I would say yes...but Also insurance companies were really ripping people off before Obamacare..

So this rise in healthcare was going to happen anyway..

The Big Pharma , and Medical scams were worse than ever.. they still are and are the big voices behind how horrible Obamacare is..

.

Yes it would have risen regardless, but a liberal posted the facts on here a few days ago by accident..


In just a few years the rates rised faster then the past 10 years combined.


.

Also...these damn people in congress bitch about obamacare but let these F-king Big Pharma and Medical Scammers Rip off Americans and don't say a word.

Things used to be affordable without insurance...but not for years

Trump has been attacking them

 

[bripat9643]

Also...

Better save your money folks if they screw up Obamacare... You are a $$$ once you get cancer, heart attack or some other catastrophic illness..

The people who paid your congressmen off to get you sick by poisons and then steal your life savings worked out well for them...

So you agree Obama care is only for catastrophic illness and is not health care because the premiums and deductibles are to high.... Check


.

With the high deductibles I would say yes...but Also insurance companies were really ripping people off before Obamacare..

So this rise in healthcare was going to happen anyway..

The Big Pharma , and Medical scams were worse than ever.. they still are and are the big voices behind how horrible Obamacare is..

.

Yes it would have risen regardless, but a liberal posted the facts on here a few days ago by accident..


In just a few years the rates rised faster then the past 10 years combined.


.

I am not sure about that...

They got rid of the fines to make people buy insurance so why is there such a big huff from people like Bripat..lol..

Why, because they listened to Fox News all day

Because the insurance is worthless and it costs a fortune. Obamacare regulations make it impossible to buy insurance that's affordable and actually provides something worthwhile.

 

[easyt65]

No dumbass, not like that at all, there is no connection between the facts I stated and a falsehood that everyone can somehow be guaranteed to keep a doctor in the history of the world.

The ACA is extremely short on FACTS. Obama said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself. Those subsidies are part of that price tag Pelosi is asking the tax payers to pay, a price tag Obama promised would not exist.

Nice try, but FAIL!

No dumbass, Obama certainly has never said that subsidies would somehow be free. That government can give money to insurance companies and not draw that money from general fund.

You are clearly WAAAAYYY over your head to understand that just because spending is paid-for, it still remains spending and requires budgeting for.

Obama declared the ACA would not cost a dime...as in tax payers would not have to pay a dime in tax dollars to fund the ACA. Those subsidies are now part of the ACA. Pelosi is begging for tax dollars for the ACA. Fail - you lose.

 

[easyt65]

I'm almost positive that Obama and Pelosi never warned the American people that the ACA was going to suck so badly that he and Democrats would be threatening to shut down the government in the future in order to force the GOP to spend tax dollars to keep it alive, as they are doing now.

 

[gipper]

Obama, Reid, and Pelosi promised Obamacare will not cost a dime.
Obama, Reid, and Pelosi promised Obamacare will pay for itself.

NOW?

Pelosi is begging the GOP to fund Obamacare...



Democrats say spending bill must fund Obamacare payments


Democrats say spending bill must fund Obamacare payments
Democrats say spending bill must fund Obamacare payments

"Democrats say they will make funding for a key Obamacare program a top priority in the next spending bill after President Donald Trump on Wednesday threatened to stop it, raising the possibility of a government shutdown threat over the health care law."


So not only did the Democrats LIE about the ACA not costing a dime and paying for itself, NOW they are threatening to SHUT DOWN THE GOVT if the GOP / American people fund their LIE / POS!

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The lies spoken by Obama and his cabal of fellow Ds about Ocare, could fill a book. The MSM is silent about exposing their lies, so many average D voters and the usual uninformed Americans don't know of the lies.

I can see the MSM reporting on this....Rs Shut Down Government...Millions Lose Healthcare Coverage!!!! Not one word will be mentioned about the numerous D lies.

 

[AntonToo]

No dumbass, not like that at all, there is no connection between the facts I stated and a falsehood that everyone can somehow be guaranteed to keep a doctor in the history of the world.

The ACA is extremely short on FACTS. Obama said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself. Those subsidies are part of that price tag Pelosi is asking the tax payers to pay, a price tag Obama promised would not exist.

Nice try, but FAIL!

No dumbass, Obama certainly has never said that subsidies would somehow be free. That government can give money to insurance companies and not draw that money from general fund.

You are clearly WAAAAYYY over your head to understand that just because spending is paid-for, it still remains spending and requires budgeting for.

Obama declared the ACA would not cost a dime...as in tax payers would not have to pay a dime in tax dollars to fund the ACA. Those subsidies are now part of the ACA. Pelosi is begging for tax dollars for the ACA. Fail - you lose.

More bullshit nonsense, quote him saying that ACA, which contains a number of taxes, would not have at least some taxpayers paying the tax.

What he said was that ACA is 10 year revenue neutral, meaning it is paid for and will not add to deficit, which is exactly how CBO scored the law.

Unfortanately you rightwingers are too fucking stupid and ignorant to understand what people say and what you read.

 

[JimBowie1958]

At the cost of untold number of lives?
Can you be serious for a moment on the topic?

No to socialized medicine period

Oh, I agree, we should not have socialized medicine.

And there are many forms of socialized medicine, but I dont know of any Single payer systems that allow for competitive insurance companies.

What nation that has Single payer medicine allows for multiple insurance companies in their system? If so, how is that 'Single payer'?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Because the insurance is worthless and it costs a fortune. Obamacare regulations make it impossible to buy insurance that's affordable and actually provides something worthwhile.

I am very happy with my Aetna policy.

Our monthly rate went up a little, but it is still affordable and worth having.

 

[easyt65]

No dumbass, not like that at all, there is no connection between the facts I stated and a falsehood that everyone can somehow be guaranteed to keep a doctor in the history of the world.

The ACA is extremely short on FACTS. Obama said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself. Those subsidies are part of that price tag Pelosi is asking the tax payers to pay, a price tag Obama promised would not exist.

Nice try, but FAIL!

No dumbass, Obama certainly has never said that subsidies would somehow be free. That government can give money to insurance companies and not draw that money from general fund.

You are clearly WAAAAYYY over your head to understand that just because spending is paid-for, it still remains spending and requires budgeting for.

Obama declared the ACA would not cost a dime...as in tax payers would not have to pay a dime in tax dollars to fund the ACA. Those subsidies are now part of the ACA. Pelosi is begging for tax dollars for the ACA. Fail - you lose.

More bullshit nonsense, quote him saying that ACA, which contains a number of taxes, would not have at least some taxpayers paying the tax.

What he said was that ACA is 10 year revenue neutral, meaning it is paid for and will not add to deficit, which is exactly how CBO scored the law.

Unfortanately you rightwingers are too fucking stupid and ignorant to understand what people say and what you read.

The ACA has kept none of its promises. It has been proven to be one huge socialist-agenda-driven LIE!

The CBO has already exposed the promise that it would not add to the deficit to be a LIE.

The only way that promise would be kept is if the GOP allows it to collapse, which is what it is doing.

Giving the 'beggars' - Pelosi, Obama, and the other Democrats who rammed this disaster down the throats of the majority of Americans who opposed it - the funding they are threatening to shut down the govt over in order to get would only be putting the ACA on 'life support' and prolong Americans' suffering.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The only way that promise would be kept is if the GOP allows it to collapse, which is what it is doing.

This is political suicide for the GOP and a narcissistic means of resolving the situation that ignores the medical needs of our poor.