"personhood" idiocy in N Dakota

[paulitician]

Just a recap, this bill would

Make abortion illegal for any reason
Make certain types of birth control illegal
Make certain types of invetro illegal
Make the disposal of fertilized eggs illegal
Make the use of fertilized eggs for medical purposes illegal
Take medical decision out of the hands of pregnant women and place ultimate authority with the state.

Guess you wont be living in North Dakota huh? Somehow, i don't think that saddens the People of North Dakota. You wont be missed.

 

[AmyNation]

You want a home birth? Sorry, the state says that's too dangerous for the fetus.
You don't want to see an OBGYN? Sorry, needs of the fetus come 1st


I'm wondering if this could even extend to forcing women to have selective abortions? If you find out you're carrying triplets, and the doctor says you should abort 1, can he now force you to comply, since that's what's best for the other 2?

 

[paulitician]

You want a home birth? Sorry, the state says that's too dangerous for the fetus.
You don't want to see an OBGYN? Sorry, needs of the fetus come 1st


I'm wondering if this could even extend to forcing women to have selective abortions? If you find out you're carrying triplets, and the doctor says you should abort 1, can he now force you to comply, since that's what's best for the other 2?

Man, you're still whining about this? I already solved your problem. No one will force you to live in North Dakota. Seriously, it's true. They've decided they want out of the Baby-Killing Business. Oh well, too bad for you. Good luck.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

North Dakota Personhood Measure Passes State Senate

"These bills just open the door for every other state in the country to interject themselves into everybody's bedroom."

Which is exactly what the rw's want. The more laws and the more intrusive, the better.

Abortion care? That's an oxymoron if there ever was one.

 

[asterism]

Women don't have the right to kill human beings because they find it convenient.

That. too, is a simple concept.

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

No, the law gives the state rights to intrude also. Late term abortion bans have been upheld as Constitutional.

Justices uphold ban on abortion procedure - CNN.com

Your premise is false.

 

[asterism]

Just a recap, this bill would

Make abortion illegal for any reason
Make certain types of birth control illegal
Make certain types of invetro illegal
Make the disposal of fertilized eggs illegal
Make the use of fertilized eggs for medical purposes illegal
Take medical decision out of the hands of pregnant women and place ultimate authority with the state.

Make abortion illegal for any reason - false
Make certain types of birth control illegal - which ones?
Make certain types of invetro illegal - which ones?
Make the disposal of fertilized eggs illegal - false
Make the use of fertilized eggs for medical purposes illegal - false
Take medical decision out of the hands of pregnant women and place ultimate authority with the state. - that already exists now

 

[Crackerjaxon]

YeT
You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

The inseminator?

ROFL.

The inseminator.

Not the father, not even the baby daddy, but the inseminator.

Someone should arrest you for semantic abuse.

"Semantic abuse" is the best you've got. Pathetic.

Regards from Rosie

No, my dear, it's the best you have.

Inseminator.

That's genuinely funny.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

You want a home birth? Sorry, the state says that's too dangerous for the fetus.
You don't want to see an OBGYN? Sorry, needs of the fetus come 1st


I'm wondering if this could even extend to forcing women to have selective abortions? If you find out you're carrying triplets, and the doctor says you should abort 1, can he now force you to comply, since that's what's best for the other 2?

No one has even suggested any of the above. It's simply fear-mongering on your part.

 

[AmyNation]

You want a home birth? Sorry, the state says that's too dangerous for the fetus.
You don't want to see an OBGYN? Sorry, needs of the fetus come 1st


I'm wondering if this could even extend to forcing women to have selective abortions? If you find out you're carrying triplets, and the doctor says you should abort 1, can he now force you to comply, since that's what's best for the other 2?

No one has even suggested any of he above. It's simply fear-mongering on your part.

Except I already provided links eariler in the thread that show cases of women being forced to comply with state medical advice. A woman in labor was hand cuffed, legs strapped together and hauled off to a hospital because she attempted to have a home birth and the doctor decided it was too risky for the fetus.

 

[paulitician]

So, Abortion will not be Illegal in North Dakota. Glad we could clear that up. I don't get all the hysterical fear mongering. No one here has proven in any way that Abortion will be Illegal in North Dakota. And besides that, there are many many other States that run countless Abortion Mills. There are many to choose from. You don't have to live in North Dakota. Plenty of places to kill your baby. Time to move on.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

And that is why 66% of unmarried and 55% of married women voted against the GOP, because of your fucked up opinion.

Women would destroy the GOP if Roe were ever overturned.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Just try to stop one. Women can be impotent, too. Simple concept of keeping your fool selves a legally defined distance from abortion clinics.

The law gives only the pregnant woman and her doctor rights. Not the inseminator, not you, not anyone else.

It has only been 40 years to adjust to your roles. Get to it.

Regards from Rosie

You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

And that is why 66% of unmarried and 55% of married women voted against the GOP, because of your fucked up opinion.

Women would destroy the GOP if Roe were ever overturned.

It's no news that the Democratic Party prostitutes itself to get votes any way it can.

If Roe v. Wade was overturned it would do nothing to make abortion illegal. As usual, the party of the non-thinking caters to its empty-headed constituents.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

You want a home birth? Sorry, the state says that's too dangerous for the fetus.
You don't want to see an OBGYN? Sorry, needs of the fetus come 1st


I'm wondering if this could even extend to forcing women to have selective abortions? If you find out you're carrying triplets, and the doctor says you should abort 1, can he now force you to comply, since that's what's best for the other 2?

No one has even suggested any of he above. It's simply fear-mongering on your part.

Except I already provided links eariler in the thread that show cases of women being forced to comply with state medical advice. A woman in labor was hand cuffed, legs strapped together and hauled off to a hospital because she attempted to have a home birth and the doctor decided it was too risky for the fetus.

Yes, more fear-mongering on your part. You do realize that has nothing at all to do with the legislation, right?

 

[Erand7899]

If you don't approve of the laws of North Dakota, stay the hell out of North Dakota.

Why do left wingers continually intrude into the business of people in states that they do not reside in?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You're no martyr or hero sista. Many American Women do oppose murdering babies. The fact you don't like that, is irrelevant. They have the right to express that opinion and fight for their beliefs. They're American Citizens too. Looks like North Dakota wants out of the Baby-Murdering Business. You're just gonna have to deal with that. Good luck.

And that is why 66% of unmarried and 55% of married women voted against the GOP, because of your fucked up opinion.

Women would destroy the GOP if Roe were ever overturned.

It's no news that the Democratic Party prostitutes itself to get votes any way it can.

If Roe v. Wade was overturned it would do nothing to make abortion illegal. As usual, the party of the non-thinking caters to its empty-headed constituents.

GOP prostitutes itself to corporations, imperialists, libertarian crazies, social values religionists, and worshippers of Buddha Athena.

Overturning Roe will destroy the GOP nationally.

 

[Delia]

More huffo puffo fluffo put as 'fact' by a troll...


yawn

Here you go.

ND 4009 | 2013-2014 | 63rd Legislative Assembly | LegiScan

 

[Luddly Neddite]

So, Abortion will not be Illegal in North Dakota. Glad we could clear that up. I don't get all the hysterical fear mongering. No one here has proven in any way that Abortion will be Illegal in North Dakota. And besides that, there are many many other States that run countless Abortion Mills. There are many to choose from. You don't have to live in North Dakota. Plenty of places to kill your baby. Time to move on.

Not true but I'll give you a chance to

PROVE IT.​

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If you don't approve of the laws of North Dakota, stay the hell out of North Dakota.

Why do left wingers continually intrude into the business of people in states that they do not reside in?

Yes, silly liberals.

Unlike conservatives liberals understand that one’s civil liberties are not determined by his state of residence; unlike conservatives liberal take great offense when any American’s civil rights are threatened; unlike conservatives liberals believe in the rule of law, the right to privacy, and the importance of restricting government from violating citizens’ privacy rights.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If you don't approve of the laws of North Dakota, stay the hell out of North Dakota.

Why do left wingers continually intrude into the business of people in states that they do not reside in?

Yes, silly liberals.

Unlike conservatives liberals understand that one’s civil liberties are not determined by his state of residence; unlike conservatives liberal take great offense when any American’s civil rights are threatened; unlike conservatives liberals believe in the rule of law, the right to privacy, and the importance of restricting government from violating citizens’ privacy rights.

You are using "conservative" when you should be using "reactionary." So please don't be the lefty equivalent of an Uncensored.

 

[Avatar4321]

Personhood bills, scary stuff.

What's scary that people want to kill their offspring.