frigidweirdo
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I mean, Bush invaded and got millions killed, and will see millions more killed in the future with ISIS, Syria, etc. But yeah, the right isn't sick, the left is sick because NO ONE got killed, right?
Millions ?
There are estimates. You take the number of people killed as a result of Bush's foreign policy, you'll get millions.
I attribute most of those deaths to the people who did the actual killing. and inadvertantly Obama's foreign policy also led to deaths, don't ignore those and say its all Bushes policy. When he left things were stable.
Furthermore, this has absolutely nothing to do with whats going on today in DC and the behavior you are witnessing.
Ah, so you don't put the blame on the guy who started it? And you don't put the blame on the guy who got rid of the Iraqi police and armed forces, forcing thousands of young men to go seek work and the only place they could find it was in the insurgency? You don't blame those who fucked it up badly?
Why is that?
If you go out and murder someone of your own free will can you blame someone else? would you? when you say there are Millions of deaths, somehow placing all this on one person is BS. All along the line people have choices between right and wrong. I don't care if you don't have a job and have to join an insurgency. If you plant a bomb in a crowded marketplace it is your FAULT . Don't blame Bush for your actions. If you want to be be so technical you can say any foriegn policy causes deaths one way or another because they do. Clinton bombed Serbia and caused more people to die on both sides than had before his Nato bombing started, Obamas policy in Egypt and Libya and Syria caused people to die. Bush did screw up Iraq, we never should have gone in but the Shia and Sunnis have had Plenty of opportunity to make peace since then. Plenty. This is on them and their religious intolerence. If they want to kill their own people they should stop being snowflakes about it and blaming someone else.
The problem here is that there's more to it than just "who done it?".
You can blame individuals for things, who who set up the whole thing where individuals are likely to make one decision or another?
Do all US cities have the same violent crime rates? No, they don't. So, why are some cities worse than others? Is this all down to individuals. Do the people in charge, the govt have nothing to do with the changes?
The answer is, sure they do.
I'm blaming Bush because it was his fault. there's nothing more to it than that.
Clinton bombed Serbia. The consequences of that action were that less people died and the conflict got sorted out and the Balkans is peaceful again.
Bush invaded Iraq and the violence is still going 14 years later. It's a disaster.
Yes, Shia and Sunni are doing their thing. But again, without Bush they wouldn't have been doing their thing. Simple as.