Police on the scene of "active multiple shooting" at Buffalo supermarket, 9 people shot : Multiple people are injured & 'several dead'

[bodecea]

MAGA is not a very good debater....so you are gone.

I think that's why they go to violence......they can't debate their way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[DukeU]

Well, an adult with a functioning brain cell would see that idiotic statement and wonder if that might be a function of the country having a lot more white people in it.

While an intellectually incapable manbaby would not.

So, more white people in the country and more whites killed by the police. Less black people in the country and blacks killed less by police.

If it was because of racism, wouldn't there be more blacks being killed than whites?

It's common sense, the numbers don't lie.

 

[IM2]

There is no Xiden. You are an example of the continuing racism in America.

 

[bodecea]

welcome to xiden’s america

Look at you....denying all the right wing mass shootings that came before Biden.

 

[IM2]

CRT says all white people are racist.

Critical race theory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Do you agree?

CRT does not say that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Is it a gun free zone or state that doesn't allow concealed carry ? Makes a huge difference for sure.

Wrong.

There’s no evidence that private citizens carrying concealed firearms act as a ‘deterrent’ to crime, including stopping mass shootings.

Study: Concealed Handgun Permits Don't Affect Crime Rate

Supporters insist that allowing people to legally carry concealed handguns reduces crime, but that has not been the result in at least four states that have tried it, including Texas, according to a newly published academic study.

www.texastribune.org

 

[XponentialChaos]

So, more white people in the country and more whites killed by the police. Less black people in the country and blacks killed less by police.

If it was because of racism, wouldn't there be more blacks being killed than whites?

It's common sense, the numbers don't lie.

Racism isn’t always a reason for the killing. Most of the time it isn’t. In this case, it is.

Let’s call it what it is.

 

[bodecea]

You lying asshole......I stated exactly what he wrote...that he is a leftist authoritarian/populist and eco-fascist...that is exactly what i posted........you called me a liar, now you are covering up your bullshit......

You deny your own more than Peter denied Jesus.

 

[struth]

Look at you....denying all the right wing mass shootings that came before Biden.

this is xiden’s america

 

[2aguy]

Has nothing to do with anything and you’re only bringing it up to desperately try to pivot to somehow explain that the white supremacist who hates black people is a Democrat.

Desperation.

You or one of the other idiots claimed accused my side of hanging out with white supremacists...I showed you the democrats actually do it.....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They are telling blacks they are eternal victims and whites they are eternal racists...you doofus......the democrat party is the party of racism....in everything they do.....

The democrat party is the home of racists of all skin colors, who seek massive government to push their racism......the Congressional Black Caucus and obama hosted louis farakhan, black racist.......obama had al sharpton, black racist to the White House dozens of times, and obama went to the black racist church of jeremiah wright for 20 years and had the black racist, jeremiah wright marry him and michelle and baptiized his daughters...

The democrat party is the home of all racists in this country.

This mass shooting is yet another manifestation of rightwing racist replacement theory.

 

[bodecea]

xiden is the president of the united states and leader of the free world…he’s racial jungle thoughts apparently are what’s driving the ship now

No racism from the Righties here, folks.

 

[2aguy]

Wrong.

There’s no evidence that private citizens carrying concealed firearms act as a ‘deterrent’ to crime, including stopping mass shootings.

Study: Concealed Handgun Permits Don't Affect Crime Rate

Supporters insist that allowing people to legally carry concealed handguns reduces crime, but that has not been the result in at least four states that have tried it, including Texas, according to a newly published academic study.

www.texastribune.org

Except for these studies....

In December 2008, a Memphis, TN newspaper published a searchable online database of names, zip codes, and ages of Tennessee handgun carry permit holders. We use detailed crime and handgun carry permit data for the city of Memphis to estimate the impact of publicity about the database on burglaries. We find that burglaries increased in zip codes with fewer gun permits, and decreased in those with more gun permits, after the database was publicized.

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w29940/w29940.pdf
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Social science on the right to bear arms

Lott amicus to New York case...

https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...144549202_Amicus brief SWD 7.19.2021 2300.pdf


https://www.jstor.org/stable/1229604

1977-2000
1.5%-2.3% reductions in murder rate
2-3 billion dollars benefit in first 5 years.


Wilson....

Appendix A Dissent--James Q. Wilson | Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review |The National Academies Press

Lott argued that murder rates decline after the adoption of RTC laws even after allowing for the effect of other variables that affect crime rates. The committee has confirmed this finding as is evident in its Tables 6-1, 6-2, 6-5 (first row), 6-6 (first row), and 6-7 (first two rows). This confirmation includes both the original data period (1977-1992) used by Lott and data that run through 2000. In view of the confirmation of the findings that shall-issue laws drive down the murder rate, it is hard for me to understand why these claims are called “fragile.”
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In addition, with only a few exceptions, the studies cited in Chapter 6, including those by Lott’s critics, do not show that the passage of RTC laws drives the crime rates up (as might be the case if one supposed that newly armed people went about looking for someone to shoot). The direct evidence that such shooting sprees occur is nonexistent. The indirect evidence, as found in papers by Black and Nagin and Ayres and Donohue [cited in Chapter 6], is controversial. Indeed, the Ayres and Donohue paper shows that there was a “statistically significant downward shift in the trend” of the murder rate (Chapter 6, page 135). This suggests to me that for people interested in RTC laws, the best evidence we have is that they impose no costs but may confer benefits. That conclusion might be very useful to authorities who contemplate the enactment of RTC laws.
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In sum, I find that the evidence presented by Lott and his supporters suggests that RTC laws do in fact help drive down the murder rate, though their effect on other crimes is ambiguous.

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/323313

Abstract​

In 1997, John Lott and David Mustard published an important paper in which they found that right‐to‐carry concealed weapons laws reduce violent crime. Although Lott and Mustard appear to do all possible variations of the analysis, a closer reading reveals that the study might suffer from several possibly important errors. I reestimate the model and check for incorrect functional form, omitted variables, and possible second‐order bias in the t‐ratios. Lott and Mustard's basic conclusions are generally robust with respect to these potential econometric problems. Overall, right‐to‐carry concealed weapons laws tend to reduce violent crime. The effect on property crime is more uncertain. I find evidence that these laws also reduce burglary.

Do Right to Carry Laws Increase Violent Crime? A Comment on Donohue, Aneja, and Weber · Econ Journal Watch : shall-issue, gun control

Nevertheless, when we use the synthetic control model, we find that the claim that RTC laws increase either murder or violent crime is not supported. We find states where crime increased after the implementation of the RTC law, and we find more states in which crime decreased after the law.

Mustard, D. 2001. The impact of gun laws on police deaths. The Journal of Law & Economics, 44(S2): 635-657..

After enactment of the right-to-carry laws, states exhibit a reduced likelihood of having a felonious police death rate and slightly lower rates of police deaths.
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Allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons does not endanger the lives of officers and may help reduce their risk of being killed.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ountable_Crimes-Only_a_Count_Analysis_Can_Say
We find that the effects of such laws vary across crime categories, U.S. states, and time and that such laws appear to have statistically significant deterrent effects on the numbers of reported murders, rapes, and robberies. Copyright 2001 by the University of Chicago.

EconPapers: Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness
Overall, right-to-carry concealed weapons laws tend to reduce violent crime. The effect on property crime is more uncertain. I find evidence that these laws also reduce burglary. Copyright 2001 by the University of Chicago.

The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws · Econ Journal Watch : shall-issue, crime, handguns, concealed weapons
Our analysis, as well as Ayres and Donohue’s when projected beyond a five-year span, indicates that shall-issue laws decrease crime and the costs of crime. Purists in statistical analysis object with some cause to some of methods employed both by Ayres and Donohue and by us. But our paper upgrades Ayres and Donohue, so, until the next study comes along, our paper should neutralize Ayres and Donohue’s “more guns, more crime” conclusion.
The Impact of Right-to-Carry Laws on Crime: An Exercise in Replication
his paper reports a replication of their basic findings and some corresponding robustness checks, which reveal a serious omitted variable problem. Once corrected for omitted variables, the most robust result, confirmed using both county and state data, is that RTC laws significantly reduce murder. There is no robust, consistent evidence that RTC laws have any significant effect on other violent crimes, including assault. There is some weak evidence that RTC laws increase robbery and assault while decreasing rape. Given that the victim costs of murder and rape are much higher than the costs of robbery and assault, the evidence shows that RTC laws are socially beneficial.

 

[bodecea]

Yea, you’re full of shit and desperately trying to paint a white supremacist as a Democrat.

It’s pathetic.

At least publically. How many on the Right are secretly celebrating?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

He's a left wing eco-nut...you moron.....

Did you always hold these views?
When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology, talk to anyone from my old highschool and ask about me and you will hear that. From age 15 to 18 however, I consistently moved farther to the right.

On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist
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Are you a conservative?
No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it.
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Are you a socialist?
Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their intentions, who currently owns the means of production, their intentions and who currently owns the state, and their intentions.
----

What are your views?
I would prefer to call myself a populist. But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you.

Like the New Zealand and El Paso Shooters, the Buffalo Mass Public Shooter was another environmentalist extremist who worried about the damage that minorities did to the environment

https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/spree-killer-manifesto.pdf

The conservative shooter went out of his way to target Americans of color, motivated by rightwing racism and hate.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Except for using them to blow up Federal Buildings.

I believe that was a bomb.

 

[IM2]

So, more white people in the country and more whites killed by the police. Less black people in the country and blacks killed less by police.

If it was because of racism, wouldn't there be more blacks being killed than whites?

It's common sense, the numbers don't lie.

Actually blacks are killed at 3 times our population and are 4 times more likely to get shot by police than whites. But if you want to argue this, whites are arrested almost 3 times that of blacks, and they commit most of the violent crime. So...

Law enforcement pros state that racism is a problem. So the numbers you cherry pick do not tell the whole story, therefore they do indeed lie.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, more white people in the country and more whites killed by the police. Less black people in the country and blacks killed less by police.

Wow, you made it to thought #2! With the type of assistance we give slow kids in special Ed, but progress is progress.

 

[bodecea]

You pick now to tell us you think Black Americans are lazy and looking for handouts as victims? Jesus Christ you have no fucking shame filter.

He is a "fine" member of today's American con-servative Right.

 

[2aguy]

The conservative shooter went out of his way to target Americans of color, motivated by rightwing racism and hate.

He wasn't a conservative, stated he didn't like conservatives or libertarians......in his own manifesto he identified himself as a leftist authoritarian/populist and an eco-fascist......

Did you always hold these views?
When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology, talk to anyone from my old highschool and ask about me and you will hear that. From age 15 to 18 however, I consistently moved farther to the right.

On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist
----
Are you a conservative?
No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it.
----
Are you a socialist?
Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their intentions, who currently owns the means of production, their intentions and who currently owns the state, and their intentions.
----

What are your views?
I would prefer to call myself a populist. But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you.

Like the New Zealand and El Paso Shooters, the Buffalo Mass Public Shooter was another environmentalist extremist who worried about the damage that minorities did to the environment

https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/spree-killer-manifesto.pdf