Police shortage thanks to “woke” liberal democrat policy?

[Superbadbrutha]

Floyd qualifies as a career criminal with me

As far as the cops not knowing his past they had enough trouble dealing Floyd on the day they tried to arrest him

How is a man lying face down with his hands cuffed behind his back with 2 more officers holding his legs, trouble?

 

[Marener]

It was Floyds civic duty to submit to arrest peacefully

Nope. He was being arrested. There was no risk to anyone and kneeling on him was unnecessary use of force which resulted in his death.

Chauvin is responsible for his actions.

 

[Mac-7]

You see that as the only other alternative?

That’s absurd.

Floyd could have been arrested without killing him. Police can enforce the law without violating our civil rights.

Floyd never agreed to being arrested

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Who says it was unnecessary?

Would you have simply let Floyd go?

You are just making excuses for corrupt police, Floyd was in their control. There was no reason for Chauvin to hold him down with a knee in his neck for over 8 mins.

 

[Anomalism]

They violate civil rights FAR more than they’re accountable for it.

The system is set up to be highly skewed in their favor and they have to commit extremely serious offenses to ever face consequences.

I think that's a mighty exaggeration.

 

[Marener]

Not every situation is going to play out ideally. I think oftentimes the cops do a better job than you realize.

So it’s just an “oopsy”?

 

[Anomalism]

You are just making excuses for corrupt police, Floyd was in their control. There was no reason for Chauvin to hold him down with a knee in his neck for over 8 mins.

Didn't that dude go to prison?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Didn't that dude go to prison?

Yep, but folks like Mac 7 wants him to go free.

 

[Vastator]

It was Floyds civic duty to submit to arrest peacefully

Devils advocate here… Was Floyd allowed to participate in Civics? If not… It’s difficult to make the argument that principaly he was obliged to submit to said Civics.

BTW, he was a shit bag, and I’m glad he’s dead…

 

[Anomalism]

So it’s just an “oopsy”?

This is the real world. Bad shit happens. You're not getting a constant flow of all of the good news and good stories about cops. You don't want that.

 

[Anomalism]

Yep, but folks like Mac 7 wants him to go free.

Anybody that actually watched the video and isn't a loon saw that the cop went too far. He got what he deserved.

 

[Marener]

Floyd never agreed to being arrested

Precisely. That means Chauvin is responsible for the outcome since he did agree to arrest him.

 

[Marener]

This is the real world. Bad shit happens. You're not getting a constant flow of all of the good news and good stories about cops. You don't want that.

Bad shit does happen and the people responsible for it are held liable.

That’s the way it works for us. It should be the way it works for the police.

 

[Marener]

I think that's a mighty exaggeration.

Not at all. Police have expanded their authority dramatically and whittled down our civil rights to near non-existence.

Police can search and detain you for no reason, illegally.

 

[Anomalism]

It should be the way it works for the police.

It is.

 

[Marener]

It is.

Hardly. The police protect their own.

Take the killing of Daniel Shaver and tell me that police haven’t overstepped their bounds.

 

[Anomalism]

whittled down our civil rights to near non-existence.

 

[Marener]

Stop and frisk, for example.

What right does a cop have to detain you and pat you down because they feel like it? The constitution is a joke to these people.

 

[Anomalism]

Hardly. The police protect their own.

Sometimes. It's getting harder though. Most cops are decent people. Also I don't know about that incident and don't feel like looking it up.

 

[Marener]

Sometimes. It's getting harder though. Most cops are decent people. Also I don't know about that incident and don't feel like looking it up.

You don’t want to look it up. It’s incredibly sad and paints the police in a bad light.

Good intentions can lead to bad places. A decent person can justify violating someone’s rights if they’ve convinced themselves it’s for the greater good.