Police State: Nonviolent Offenders Obeyed State Laws, Went To Jail Anyway...

[OnePercenter]

I've lived for 56 years and have found it very easy to stay out of jail. I don't feel anything for those that haven't.

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Dumb Ass deserves compassion?

 

[OnePercenter]

Who advocates children using drugs? That would seem pretty bizarre. Look, you wanna get high or drunk, that's your call. Just don't hurt others in the process. It's your business. We don't need our Police wasting time & money hunting drug users down. We need to evolve and get past that.

That is NOT evolution. If anything, it is the complete opposite.

If you wish to advocate no standards in civilization, then by all means, show some sack and say so.

But it is an absolute lie to think that people who purchase drugs are not contributing to those drugs reaching our children, either directly or indirectly by their actions.

Of course, its non violent so we shouldn't lock these people up.....I'm all for decriminalizing pot and treating it like alcohol, but when your talking narcotics and opiate based drugs. I could care less if they have to share a cell with 8 bubba's with hard cocks.

Using drugs does not make you a criminal, anymore than drinking alcohol does. It's time to accept that.

Thank You Rush Limbaugh!!!

 

[OriginalShroom]

I've lived for 56 years and have found it very easy to stay out of jail. I don't feel anything for those that haven't.

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Dumb Ass deserves compassion?

She got compassion.

She wasn't sentenced to Death or to having limbs chopped off, or having been forced to take all the drugs she was caught with.

 

[OnePercenter]

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Dumb Ass deserves compassion?

She got compassion.

She wasn't sentenced to Death or to having limbs chopped off, or having been forced to take all the drugs she was caught with.

Exactly!

 

[freedombecki]

'Half the prison population is nonviolent drug offenders'


Sharanda Jones never considered herself a criminal mastermind. Her job was just buying the cocaine powder; other members of the organization rendered it into crack cocaine and sold it. Jones owned a gun — for self-protection — but never used it.

And yet Jones, a nonviolent drug purchaser, is serving life without parole — at a cost to the taxpayers of over a million dollars.

“She was treated as a leader, and at the time she really believed that she was minimally involved and decided to go to trial,” said Molly Gill, government affairs counsel at Families Against Mandatory Minimums, a criminal justice advocacy organization. “When you do that … if you are a leader convicted, that’s considered perjury. All of those factors bumped her sentence up and up and up.”

At issue are federal laws that compel judges to impose harsh sentences on convicted defendants. Most cover nonviolent offenses and are largely drug related.

But thanks to a growing sense among people on all sides of the political spectrum that the law should change, Congress is poised to revisit mandatory minimums. It was recently announced that the Justice Safety Valve Act, a bipartisan bill co-sponsored by Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul and Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy, will get a Senate committee hearing in September.

If approved by Congress, the act would restore some measure of discretion to judges, allowing them to impose lighter sentences on nonviolent offenders when appropriate.

Mandatory minimums are an increasing concern for Conservatives. For one thing, the cost to incarcerate nonviolent offenders is simply too high...

Read more: Nonviolent offenders obeyed state laws, went to jail anyway | The Daily Caller

This is mind-blowing, because I remember the Reagan "law and order" politicos making real political hay out of making outlandish sentencing guidelines for relatively minor offenses. Republicans just LOVED prison back in the 80's.

Are you telling me that the "law and order" crowd is finally rethinking this? It's a bit late, since much damage has already been done . . .

Going to jail is not about personality of the person who breaks the law.

It's about the law. She broke the law.

 

[S.J.]

I doubt if she was buying and selling cocaine because she believed in the cause (drug legalization). I'm sure it had something to do with making money, regardless of the lives being ruined. But if drugs were legal, she would have been out of business, and the minors would not have access to the coke.

 

[jtpr312]

I've lived for 56 years and have found it very easy to stay out of jail. I don't feel anything for those that haven't.

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Obeying the law. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

 

[paulitician]

I've lived for 56 years and have found it very easy to stay out of jail. I don't feel anything for those that haven't.

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Dumb Ass deserves compassion?

Yes. Jesus expects it of us.

 

[paulitician]

I've lived for 56 years and have found it very easy to stay out of jail. I don't feel anything for those that haven't.

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Obeying the law. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Time to get rid of these outdated barbaric laws.

 

[paulitician]

It is costly.
Lock em up, feed em nothing, let them police themselves.
If they try to escape, shoot em.
Save money, free up space in prison all good.

Prisons are bursting at the seams?
So why are liberals planning to jail tea party candidates and donors under the NDAA?

How bout we don't waste time and money locking em up at all? Using drugs is not criminal. People like to get high. That's never gonna change. Why make millions of Citizens criminals when they're not? You wanna get high, so be it. Go for it. Lets get our Police focused on the brutal violent criminals.

Currently drugs are criminalized.
A non violent drug mule, buyer or seller is a part of the violence associated with the drug trade.
As a getaway driver is just as guilty if murder as the robber who pulled the trigger!!

A bit of a stretch, but i understand the logic. In the end, people want to get high. That's never gonna change. And i don't see it as criminal behavior. Just as i don't think people who drink alcohol are engaging in criminal behavior. It's a choice. So much time & money is spent on hunting down drug users. Police resources could be managed so much better. So let the People get high. Decriminalize and release nonviolent drug offenders from our prisons. The time has come.

 

[jtpr312]

Compassion. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Obeying the law. Try it. It's what Jesus would want.

Time to get rid of these outdated barbaric laws.

Time to start executing dope dealers. They are a scourge on our society.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The so called war on drugs is an utter failure.

 

[editec]

Some people just love the idea of punishing others.

It's the authoritarian mindset.

Now this is NOT a left v right issue.

I've known as many leftist authoritarians as right wingers who were authoritarians.

Remember that the DEMS put as many (maybe even more) non-violent drug offenders as the Republicans did.

 

[jtpr312]

The so called war on drugs is an utter failure.

That's because just like all the other wars since Vietnam we are not prosecuting this war to our fullest abilities. The war on drugs could end in 6-12 months if we got serious about it and started executing dope dealers from the King pins, to the office worker moving some blow on his lunch hour down to the street level dealers, coupled with a plan to close our borders for real. Unfortunately this nation lacks the political will to do what is necessary to win this war.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Look at the right wing authoritarian statists yammering for Big Government action.

 

[paulitician]

The so called war on drugs is an utter failure.

That's because just like all the other wars since Vietnam we are not prosecuting this war to our fullest abilities. The war on drugs could end in 6-12 months if we got serious about it and started executing dope dealers from the King pins, to the office worker moving some blow on his lunch hour down to the street level dealers, coupled with a plan to close our borders for real. Unfortunately this nation lacks the political will to do what is necessary to win this war.

Lets stop fighting so many Wars against our own People. Get high or drunk if you want to. It's your call. It doesn't make you a criminal.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The so called war on drugs is an utter failure.

That's because just like all the other wars since Vietnam we are not prosecuting this war to our fullest abilities. The war on drugs could end in 6-12 months if we got serious about it and started executing dope dealers from the King pins, to the office worker moving some blow on his lunch hour down to the street level dealers, coupled with a plan to close our borders for real. Unfortunately this nation lacks the political will to do what is necessary to win this war.

People have been using drugs to alter their conscienceless since there have been people.

It's stupid to think we can put an end to that.

The only reason there is a drug problem is because they are deemed illegal.

 

[theHawk]

A lot of people would disagree with you including myself. One does not wake up one day and decide to become a drug addict. It's not a conscious choice.

You can disagree, but you're wrong. It most certainly is a conscious choice. You don't wake up one day and are just addicted to drugs. You choose to start using them. (Yes, there are isolated incidents of people becoming inadvertently addicted to stuff they had legal prescriptions for, but I'm not talking about those people) If you don't make that choice, you don't get addicted. It is not an illness. That is an attempt to excuse poor decision making.

You could say the same thing about alcohol; if you didn't take the first drink you wouldn't become an alcoholic. The first time you use drugs, take a drink, placed a bet, smoke a cigarette is a first step toward addiction but that doesn't means you are choosing a life style of addiction because most people do not become addicted and no one plans to become addicted.

Addiction is a disease according the American Medical Association and most health insurance policies. Treating drug use by addicts as a crime to be punished is about the worst way to handle drug addition. In the second half of the 20th century we got tough on drug use filling our prisons with drug users instead of treatment centers and how well has this worked? Punishment for drug abuse does not cure addiction. It never has and it never will.


http://leg.mt.gov/content/Committee...tees/jrnl-nursing-understanding-addiction.pdf

Alcohol isn't an illegal drug.

If you know something is illegal and is highly addictive, then its no one else's fault but your own when you choose to use it and end up addicted to it.

 

[jtpr312]

The so called war on drugs is an utter failure.

That's because just like all the other wars since Vietnam we are not prosecuting this war to our fullest abilities. The war on drugs could end in 6-12 months if we got serious about it and started executing dope dealers from the King pins, to the office worker moving some blow on his lunch hour down to the street level dealers, coupled with a plan to close our borders for real. Unfortunately this nation lacks the political will to do what is necessary to win this war.

Lets stop fighting so many Wars against our own People. Get high or drunk if you want to. It's your call. It doesn't make you a criminal.

Evidently you have not familiarized yourself with the crime statistics regarding drug abusers/drug dealers. Drugs are a scourge on our society and dopers cost this nation billions of dollars a year in lost wages and in crimes against people and property, not to mention hundreds of thousands killed in drug wars, millions spent on medical care for dope related injuries, sicknesses and accidents.

 

[jtpr312]

The so called war on drugs is an utter failure.

That's because just like all the other wars since Vietnam we are not prosecuting this war to our fullest abilities. The war on drugs could end in 6-12 months if we got serious about it and started executing dope dealers from the King pins, to the office worker moving some blow on his lunch hour down to the street level dealers, coupled with a plan to close our borders for real. Unfortunately this nation lacks the political will to do what is necessary to win this war.

People have been using drugs to alter their conscienceless since there have been people.

It's stupid to think we can put an end to that.

The only reason there is a drug problem is because they are deemed illegal.

People have been murdering other people since there have been people.

It's stupid to think we can put an end to that.

The only reason there is a murder problem is because murder has been deemed illegal.

See how stupid your logic is?