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Politico: Carson lied about admission to West Point.

If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.


Why bad news for Clinton? Do you think the other clown has a better chance of beating her? Actually it is good news for Clinton......so many conservatives were beginning to think that because Ben was a neurosurgeon he was their answer to prayer.
 
This right up there with NBC editing the Zimmerman 911 call to make him sound like a racist.

I love it when RWnuts defend their cultmasters by comparing their behaviors to the worst things they can think of that they believe liberals did.
Give us the exact Carson quotes where he lied.

Do it.

"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.”

Read more: Exclusive: Carson claimed West Point 'scholarship' but never applied

Hey, where's my thank you?
 
If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

After the lies Obama has told, this pales in comparison.

And after all Obama's lies you still managed to vote for him twice and after all of Clinton lies you will vote for her in 2016..

I guarantee you'll vote for a liar in 2016, if they let you out to vote.
Anyone who votes will be voting for a liar. But, Carson's whacked. LOL Sincerely Herman Cain made more sense. LOL This is like People taking Pat Paulson seriously.
i took pat paulson seriously.
 
If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

After the lies Obama has told, this pales in comparison.

And after all Obama's lies you still managed to vote for him twice and after all of Clinton lies you will vote for her in 2016..

I guarantee you'll vote for a liar in 2016, if they let you out to vote.
Anyone who votes will be voting for a liar. But, Carson's whacked. LOL Sincerely Herman Cain made more sense. LOL This is like People taking Pat Paulson seriously.
Oh. Now you're just dating yourself. :lol:

Says the irony impaired far left drone!

Obama lied and people died!
No, Bodecea's gentle jibe at me was funny, and true.
 
The rubes are still sucking up Rain Man's snake oil.

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after this come catcalls and paid hecklers, this story has lost it's legs. sorry libs, maybe try the same story with trump... might stick, who knows.
 
If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

After the lies Obama has told, this pales in comparison.

And after all Obama's lies you still managed to vote for him twice and after all of Clinton lies you will vote for her in 2016..

I guarantee you'll vote for a liar in 2016, if they let you out to vote.
Anyone who votes will be voting for a liar. But, Carson's whacked. LOL Sincerely Herman Cain made more sense. LOL This is like People taking Pat Paulson seriously.
Oh. Now you're just dating yourself. :lol:

Says the irony impaired far left drone!

Obama lied and people died!

You're really reaching now........you might want to quit digging.

:dig:
 
It's a shame in that the ammunition for satire was so strong in this one. Garrett Morris and Chevy Chase would have had field day with Ben and the Donald.
 
This right up there with NBC editing the Zimmerman 911 call to make him sound like a racist.

I love it when RWnuts defend their cultmasters by comparing their behaviors to the worst things they can think of that they believe liberals did.
Give us the exact Carson quotes where he lied.

Do it.

"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.”

Read more: Exclusive: Carson claimed West Point 'scholarship' but never applied
Shitforbrains, West Point does not give out scholarships. He was probably told they wanted him to attend and there would be no cost.

Game Over.
 
Apparently now there's some skepticism over a Carson claim in the 70's that he shot a man in Reno,

just to watch him die.
 
The rubes are still sucking up Rain Man's snake oil.

16385336237_58c6e2330e_b_d.jpg
after this come catcalls and paid hecklers, this story has lost it's legs. sorry libs, maybe try the same story with trump... might stick, who knows.

Yeah....just wait till Donald T-Chump gets ahold of this story.......it will make his day....you can transfer your loyalty to T-Chump....another conservative loser.
 
There is no such thing as a "full scholarship" to West Point.

Carson's central counter-claim is that he was given encouragement to attend West Point, but opted to not do so. And if the words "offered a full scholarship" didn't appear in his memoir, there wouldn't be a story at all. It's the repetition of a "scholarship" that was "offered" that muddies the waters for him.

Ben Carson’s West Point Claim Is Latest Controversy To Rattle His Campaign
 
If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

Politico lied.

Carson never once said he applied at West Point. He mistakenly thought he was offered a scholarship when he met with General William Westmoreland in 1969 and was told that he wouldn't have to pay for his education. For a young student planning their future, free school = full scholarship since he likely didn't understand how West Point worked. The General was inviting him to apply at West Point. Carson declined the invite to apply because he wanted to become a doctor.

Politico deliberately twisted things. Carson is doing well in the polls and that makes him a threat. That means the spin machine must spring into action and take him down. That is all this is about.

I am quite sure the folks at Politico know the difference between being invited to apply and actually applying are two different things. Many places recruit the best people and offering a free ride is a good way to do that.


"Politico began thusly:




Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

The key word here is "fabricated." Did the Carson campaign admit any such thing? Absolutely not. The facts reported by Politico don’t even support this interpretation of the Carson campaign’s response. According to Politico, Carson said in his 1992 memoir Gifted Hands that he was offered a "full scholarship" to West Point after dining with General William Westmoreland in 1969. Here’s the relevant passage from Carson’s autobiography:

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going.

That’s the entire relevant portion of Carson’s account. He reiterated that account last month in an interview with Charlie Rose, when he said, "I was offered a full scholarship at West Point, got to meet General Westmoreland and go to Congressional Medal of Honor dinners. But decided really my pathway would be medicine."

Politico followed up on this story. They reported one additional pieces of information that seem to conflict with Carson’s story: Carson never applied to West Point, and was never extended admission.

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a "full scholarship," and never applied.

In fact, that’s exactly what Carson’s campaign manager said to Politico in an email:

Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit. In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors. They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.

But here’s how Politico editorialized: "When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false."

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange."

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro#.VjzrIHREiFg.twitter
 
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This right up there with NBC editing the Zimmerman 911 call to make him sound like a racist.

I love it when RWnuts defend their cultmasters by comparing their behaviors to the worst things they can think of that they believe liberals did.
Give us the exact Carson quotes where he lied.

Do it.

"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.”

Read more: Exclusive: Carson claimed West Point 'scholarship' but never applied
Shitforbrains, West Point does not give out scholarships. He was probably told they wanted him to attend and there would be no cost.

Game Over.

There would be no cost? Isn't that the same as a full scholarship? Or, what would you call it? :eek:
 
This right up there with NBC editing the Zimmerman 911 call to make him sound like a racist.

I love it when RWnuts defend their cultmasters by comparing their behaviors to the worst things they can think of that they believe liberals did.
Give us the exact Carson quotes where he lied.

Do it.

"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.”

Read more: Exclusive: Carson claimed West Point 'scholarship' but never applied
Shitforbrains, West Point does not give out scholarships. He was probably told they wanted him to attend and there would be no cost.

Game Over.

There would be no cost? Isn't that the same as a full scholarship? Or, what would you call it? :eek:

There is a cost. When you finish your schooling, you have to serve in the military. It's not free.
 
Don't military academies require a "political" appointment/nomination?

After determining that you meet the basic requirements to become a cadet, you should begin seeking nominations. In order to be considered for admission at West Point, you need to be nominated. There are two types of nominations, the Congressional Nomination and the Service-Connected Nomination.

We understand this may be an unfamiliar process to you, so it is important you learn what to do and by when. Below is additional information on how to obtain a Congressional Nomination and/or a Service-Connected Nomination. Please read this carefully and contact an Admissions Officer for further questions. Forms are available to fill out by clicking on the links under the respective information sections.

More: Admissions - Apply_Nominations
 
Politico lied.

Carson never once said he applied at West Point. He mistakenly thought he was offered a scholarship when he met with General William Westmoreland in 1969 and was told that he wouldn't have to pay for his education. For a young student planning their future, free school = full scholarship since he likely didn't understand how West Point worked. The General was inviting him to apply at West Point. Carson declined the invite to apply because he wanted to become a doctor.

Politico deliberately twisted things. Carson is doing well in the polls and that makes him a threat. That means the spin machine must spring into action and take him down. That is all this is about.

I am quite sure the folks at Politico know the difference between being invited to apply and actually applying are two different things. Many places recruit the best people and offering a free ride is a good way to do that.


"Politico began thusly:




Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

The key word here is "fabricated." Did the Carson campaign admit any such thing? Absolutely not. The facts reported by Politico don’t even support this interpretation of the Carson campaign’s response. According to Politico, Carson said in his 1992 memoir Gifted Hands that he was offered a "full scholarship" to West Point after dining with General William Westmoreland in 1969. Here’s the relevant passage from Carson’s autobiography:

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going.

That’s the entire relevant portion of Carson’s account. He reiterated that account last month in an interview with Charlie Rose, when he said, "I was offered a full scholarship at West Point, got to meet General Westmoreland and go to Congressional Medal of Honor dinners. But decided really my pathway would be medicine."

Politico followed up on this story. They reported one additional pieces of information that seem to conflict with Carson’s story: Carson never applied to West Point, and was never extended admission.

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a "full scholarship," and never applied.



http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro#.VjzrIHREiFg.twitter
 
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If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

Politico lied.

Carson never once said he applied at West Point. He mistakenly thought he was offered a scholarship when he met with General William Westmoreland in 1969 and was told that he wouldn't have to pay for his education. For a young student planning their future, free school = full scholarship since he likely didn't understand how West Point worked. The General was inviting him to apply at West Point. Carson declined the invite to apply because he wanted to become a doctor.

Politico deliberately twisted things. Carson is doing well in the polls and that makes him a threat. That means the spin machine must spring into action and take him down. That is all this is about.

I am quite sure the folks at Politico know the difference between being invited to apply and actually applying are two different things. Many places recruit the best people and offering a free ride is a good way to do that.


"Politico began thusly:




Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

The key word here is "fabricated." Did the Carson campaign admit any such thing? Absolutely not. The facts reported by Politico don’t even support this interpretation of the Carson campaign’s response. According to Politico, Carson said in his 1992 memoir Gifted Hands that he was offered a "full scholarship" to West Point after dining with General William Westmoreland in 1969. Here’s the relevant passage from Carson’s autobiography:

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going.

That’s the entire relevant portion of Carson’s account. He reiterated that account last month in an interview with Charlie Rose, when he said, "I was offered a full scholarship at West Point, got to meet General Westmoreland and go to Congressional Medal of Honor dinners. But decided really my pathway would be medicine."

Politico followed up on this story. They reported one additional pieces of information that seem to conflict with Carson’s story: Carson never applied to West Point, and was never extended admission.

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a "full scholarship," and never applied.

In fact, that’s exactly what Carson’s campaign manager said to Politico in an email:

Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit. In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors. They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.

But here’s how Politico editorialized: "When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false."

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange."

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro#.VjzrIHREiFg.twitter

These Libs who jumped on this have egg on their faces. They should have either read the book or done some actual research. They appear as howling maniacs.
 

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