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Good Lord
whatever.Did I say I was? No, I sure didn't.
So maybe get me out of your head.
If you're one of the many (like me) who thinks that much of America's Christian population has sold its soul to a con man, here's a really interesting interview -- and one really fascinating point.
Tim Alberta is a devout Christian who has been so troubled by this that he has written a book on the topic. The interview is almost 36 minutes, but there is one moment where I think he makes a very interesting (and even fair, kind of) point. This doesn't absolve the obvious dishonesty and rank hypocrisy that we see, but at least it explains it in a way:
At 11:46: "For a lot of these people who are panicked, who are just stricken with fear about the culture changing so quickly and the country turning on Christianity, and that their faith is in the crosshairs and one day they're going to be persecuted for their faith in this country -- a lot of folks believe that -- they think the barbarians are at the gates, and so they need a barbarian to defend them. To protect them.
"And so, they look at Trump, and the behavior and the rhetoric, and in some sense, because he is not bound by biblical teachings, not bound by biblical virtues, he is free to fight for them in ways that no good Christian ever would".
Holy crap, that's interesting. MAGA followers by and large and not very good at articulating their reasoning, and he does a very good job here. Again, it doesn't explain away many of the behaviors, but at least there is some reasoning here to grab on to.
Funny that you jump on his every word. ?MC58whatever.
If you're one of the many (like me) who thinks that much of America's Christian population has sold its soul to a con man, here's a really interesting interview -- and one really fascinating point.
Tim Alberta is a devout Christian who has been so troubled by this that he has written a book on the topic. The interview is almost 36 minutes, but there is one moment where I think he makes a very interesting (and even fair, kind of) point. This doesn't absolve the obvious dishonesty and rank hypocrisy that we see, but at least it explains it in a way:
At 11:46: "For a lot of these people who are panicked, who are just stricken with fear about the culture changing so quickly and the country turning on Christianity, and that their faith is in the crosshairs and one day they're going to be persecuted for their faith in this country -- a lot of folks believe that -- they think the barbarians are at the gates, and so they need a barbarian to defend them. To protect them.
"And so, they look at Trump, and the behavior and the rhetoric, and in some sense, because he is not bound by biblical teachings, not bound by biblical virtues, he is free to fight for them in ways that no good Christian ever would".
Holy crap, that's interesting. MAGA followers by and large and not very good at articulating their reasoning, and he does a very good job here. Again, it doesn't explain away many of the behaviors, but at least there is some reasoning here to grab on to.
Has it ever occurred to you that if all these people in Washington were "sensible people," that the entire country wouldn't be so totally fucked up?
Has it occurred to you that everytime a DC politician is caught with massive corruption and incompetence yet nothing is ever done to them is because all the other people are massively corrupt and incompetent too?
Has it ever occurred to you that corrupt people like other people around them to be corrupt too? Trump doesn't fit in because he isn't massively corrupt. Honest people tend to blow the whistle on cheaters, liars and thieves.
Very, very true."Law and order" is a concept that the majority of the population has to both endorse and practice, otherwise, the social compact is broken. The one that says "everyone is treated equally under the law".
We can see the results of breaking the social compact with the high end shoplifting taking place in the cities.
Like I stated, teabaggers and evangelicals are the two most gullible groups of people on earth.We're learning, on a national basis, how powerful wanting something to be true can be.
They want to believe he's a Christian, so badly. I think the point made by the guy in the OP makes sense. Most of them know he's lying about being Christian, but they've handed to keys to him because they're desperate. They're figure this obscene child is the only thing between them and Satan, so they've made him a deputized Christian. Just for now.
Just destroy everything in sight and we'll start over, something like that.
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"As I said all in coming new administration contact Russia before the new president is sworn in".Read the source I provided.
Pretending/convincing themselves that he's a Christian gives them license to follow him as he destroys what they think is the enemy. No matter what.Like I stated, teabaggers and evangelicals are the two most gullible groups of people on earth.
They think, or wish this guy is a "christian" too.
US preacher asks followers to help buy fourth private jet
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May 30, 2018 — Jesse Duplantis, 68, said God told him to "believe" for his fourth plane, which is set to cost $54m.
1miseryindex Dec2023 Sibgip00001: {I believe God is punishing the US} “We have become a very materialistic society, We have become a very materialistic society, & have lost the Christian charity we once more or less had. It's all about ME these days. There are good people in the US still, but I speak generally. •¥• I think a good % of people watch porn. No wonder society is falling and can't get up. And Christians would rather go to a Joel Olsteen like "church" than go to the Church Christ Himself established on Earth. •¥¥• I think God is fed up. I can't say I know God extremely well. He surprises me often. But I just keep getting the thought that He is punishing us. •¥¥¥• Don't believe me? Look who controls things in this country. If you find out the details on THAT story... you will be thoroughly sickened, as those of us in the know.” •¥¥¥¥• Sibgip00001
I am a rational theist as so many revolutionary leaders were in the British Colonies in the 1770s. So I don’t speak for any particular Supernatural Being because that is not particularly a correct American thing to do,
See Aug2022 post Vcaeat00181 in thread “Conservative American Evangelicals are taking this country to task“
NotfooledbyW Vcaeat00181: “James Madison shares history on the same highly educated and European Enlightenment level with Jefferson and Adam’s and Washington and Franklin and Paine and Ethan Allen, none of whom expressed their belief that the Hebrew/Christian Bible was Holy or that it was the actual and only the Word of God speaking directly to humankind. •¥• All those highly educated peers of Madison held religious liberty in higher regard than religiosity if we read what they thought about the subject.” .•¥¥• Vcaeat00181
In response to Saint 1miseryindex‘s POST Sibgip00001
America was materialistic from day one. If God were to punish any people it will be to punish his chosen white evangelical nationalists for choosing the antiChrist heathen named Trump because he promised them “power” in Iowa 2015 and they sold him their souls just to taste it, DJT is destroying the Republic before our very eyes and the white evangelicals, with an dome assists from Vladimir Putin, want more. Well at least so far.
Vpmaez00250 to Sibgip00001
Pretending/convincing themselves that he's a Christian gives them license to follow him as he destroys what they think is the enemy. No matter what.
Who sets the time what limit means? You? As I said all in coming new administration contact Russia before the new president is sworn in.
If you're one of the many (like me) who thinks that much of America's Christian population has sold its soul to a con man, here's a really interesting interview -- and one really fascinating point.
Tim Alberta is a devout Christian who has been so troubled by this that he has written a book on the topic. The interview is almost 36 minutes, but there is one moment where I think he makes a very interesting (and even fair, kind of) point. This doesn't absolve the obvious dishonesty and rank hypocrisy that we see, but at least it explains it in a way:
At 11:46: "For a lot of these people who are panicked, who are just stricken with fear about the culture changing so quickly and the country turning on Christianity, and that their faith is in the crosshairs and one day they're going to be persecuted for their faith in this country -- a lot of folks believe that -- they think the barbarians are at the gates, and so they need a barbarian to defend them. To protect them.
"And so, they look at Trump, and the behavior and the rhetoric, and in some sense, because he is not bound by biblical teachings, not bound by biblical virtues, he is free to fight for them in ways that no good Christian ever would".
Holy crap, that's interesting. MAGA followers by and large and not very good at articulating their reasoning, and he does a very good job here. Again, it doesn't explain away many of the behaviors, but at least there is some reasoning here to grab on to.
Evangelicals don't seem bright or well educated to me.