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Fox News says the we shouldn't have bailed out Detroit Auto. That opinion seems to have no basis other than trying to drag popular opinion of our government to new lows.
In truth there is only one way to get the remaining way out of the valley of Bush. GDP. Growth. The business of business. That's what will pay the bills that his policies left in their wake.
Detroit Auto is part of that solution.
More 'news' from Fox. '' You advocate for crap like a living wage.''
How radical. Pay people enough to live on so they don't need welfare. Create jobs that put people into taxable income. How are companies going to do that and pay executives as royalty?
''Look at the mess we're already seeing with Obamacare.''
The mess? System start up problems? How many years of updates does a new windows or IOS take before they're running right?
Empowering consumers with competitive information? How radical is that? Making insurance companies compete above board. Simply communistic.
The only thing that the present GOP has to offer is very well done propaganda.
They will either dump dixiecrats and end propaganda or go extinct.
You can't have it both ways. You can't insist we stop crony capitalism and government doing favors for big business while saying the biggest favor of all was a good idea.
FOX news as nothing to do with the idea that a government mandated living wage is a bad idea. That isn't how compensation works. I've lost count how many liberals need explained to them an employer doesn't compensate you based on what you need. They compensate you based on your market value because labor is commodity like everything else, including health care.
Obamacare? Again another example of what poor problem solvers libs are. You want business to go back to doing business growing and being accountable to the customer. Look no further than Obamacare as to why government being in business doesn't work. Again the options are either you are Obama are stupid or is a liar. Because most people opposed to Obamacare saw this coming. Essentially we are lessening the cost of health care for a few at the expense of many. And if this were a business that you are so high on being about customer service, Sebelius would long since have been fired for this disastrous role out. That's why government solutions don't work. There's no accountability.
You're now the global expert on how compensation works?
You're the one that wants it both ways. You have to choose between paying all full time workers a living wage plus enough to get them on the tax roles or accept the current situation. People aren't going to voluntarily die on the street to pay for your Rolls.
What is the "current situation" you refer to, paying people according to the market value of their skills? I'm OK with that.
He thinks flipping burgers at McDonalds should pay six figures and Managers, Executives, and Company owners should be paid the same amount. And everyone will live happily ever after because we all earn the same amount.
How come you can only talk about what I think? Who speaks for what, if anything, you think?
Me?
You can't have it both ways. You can't insist we stop crony capitalism and government doing favors for big business while saying the biggest favor of all was a good idea.
FOX news as nothing to do with the idea that a government mandated living wage is a bad idea. That isn't how compensation works. I've lost count how many liberals need explained to them an employer doesn't compensate you based on what you need. They compensate you based on your market value because labor is commodity like everything else, including health care.
Obamacare? Again another example of what poor problem solvers libs are. You want business to go back to doing business growing and being accountable to the customer. Look no further than Obamacare as to why government being in business doesn't work. Again the options are either you are Obama are stupid or is a liar. Because most people opposed to Obamacare saw this coming. Essentially we are lessening the cost of health care for a few at the expense of many. And if this were a business that you are so high on being about customer service, Sebelius would long since have been fired for this disastrous role out. That's why government solutions don't work. There's no accountability.
You're now the global expert on how compensation works?
You're the one that wants it both ways. You have to choose between paying all full time workers a living wage plus enough to get them on the tax roles or accept the current situation. People aren't going to voluntarily die on the street to pay for your Rolls.
As labor is a commodity, yes, that's how it works.
And no, your narrow minded option is not the only one. It is no one's responsibility but your own to ensure you have what you need to live on. THAT is the other option. People take responsibility for themselves and if they don't we allow them to suffer the consequences. Just the same way you said a business should be run.
He thinks flipping burgers at McDonalds should pay six figures and Managers, Executives, and Company owners should be paid the same amount. And everyone will live happily ever after because we all earn the same amount.
How come you can only talk about what I think? Who speaks for what, if anything, you think?
Me?
Is that you calling for a truce on this BS "republicans/conservatives all think" you have been spewing?
The most inconvenient truth for the American aristocracy is that they have been completely victorious. They have virtually all of the wealth. What they don't have, relatively speaking are crumbs, floor sweepings.
"they " have almost all the wealth yet "they" are not stopping you from increasing your net worth or wealth are they?
No.
Adam Smith, the founder of capitalism, endorsed progressive taxation.
Obviously, he was a dirty socialist. At least the kook right says so. Which just goes to show how off-the-rails the modern right is.
They both vote don't they? They both live in the same country don't they? They both receive benefit from the money spent by the government on their behalf don't they? Then why should the guy earning $7 be slapped in the face and told he's not good enough to pay his way?
He should be payed enough to pay his way.
No he should be payed what he negotiated with his employer. Why is it to hard for you to understand that people are responsible for themselves?
They both vote don't they? They both live in the same country don't they? They both receive benefit from the money spent by the government on their behalf don't they? Then why should the guy earning $7 be slapped in the face and told he's not good enough to pay his way?
He should be payed enough to pay his way.
No he should be payed what he negotiated with his employer. Why is it to hard for you to understand that people are responsible for themselves?
You're now the global expert on how compensation works?
You're the one that wants it both ways. You have to choose between paying all full time workers a living wage plus enough to get them on the tax roles or accept the current situation. People aren't going to voluntarily die on the street to pay for your Rolls.
What is the "current situation" you refer to, paying people according to the market value of their skills? I'm OK with that.
I'm fine with workers retaining a significant % of the wealth that they create.
What is dysfunctional is to ask the wealthy to divide up the wealth that workers create.
I would take a stab at answering this OP's question, but I am aware that it is a waste of time, since the majority of people in this thread and on this site have no clue as to how the progressive tax system we have already actually works.
They actually think that your tax rate goes up on all of your income as your income goes up!
Until they actually know what they're talking about . . . well, I can't fix stupid.
When compensation gets fixed, and when we stop rewarding having wealth over creating wealth, all of these problems go away.
How do we reward "having wealth?" What wealth do burger flippers produce that makes them worth any more than $7.00/hour?
Why should the mere fact of having wealth, from any source, be rewarded by half tax rates compared to working for it, and creating it? ?
[Why are you worried about the $7.00 guy compared to the $25,000 per hour guy?
Adam Smith, the founder of capitalism, endorsed progressive taxation..
Obviously, he was a dirty socialist. At least the kook right says so. Which just goes to show how off-the-rails the modern right is.
He should be payed enough to pay his way.
No he should be payed what he negotiated with his employer. Why is it to hard for you to understand that people are responsible for themselves?
Because there's no evidence that every man for himself works. That’s been tried and abandoned. It's an extremist position.
I have been to Africa and seen tribalism first hand.
What is the "current situation" you refer to, paying people according to the market value of their skills? I'm OK with that.
I'm fine with workers retaining a significant % of the wealth that they create.
What is dysfunctional is to ask the wealthy to divide up the wealth that workers create.
It's OK with you if they retain a portion of their wealth? I've never seen such an obviously Fascist point of view posted in this forum.
The workers get all the wealth they are entitled to. The wealthy take nothing from anyone. If you don't like the pay your employer has agreed to pay you, then go somewhere else. You are insisting that you are entitled to hold a gun to someone's head for force them to give you what you think you are entitled to, not what they have agreed to give you. That's what's at the bottom of all these discussions about a so-called "living wage."
I would take a stab at answering this OP's question, but I am aware that it is a waste of time, since the majority of people in this thread and on this site have no clue as to how the progressive tax system we have already actually works.
They actually think that your tax rate goes up on all of your income as your income goes up!
Until they actually know what they're talking about . . . well, I can't fix stupid.
No one thinks that, Nimrod.
My first child started school in 1991.
This is what we saw for 2 decades as my youngest graduated high school 2011.
Parents driving new SUVs qualifying for free school lunches.
Parents that can work qualifying for social security disability and proud that they have received something for nothing with their handicapped car tags.
Parents that I would see drinking pitchers of beer at the Mexican restaurant down the street registering for their kids to play for free in the rec leagues.
Parents paying for the food with food stamps and paying cash for their Michelob Light, charcoal and Marlboro cartons of smokes.
Section 8 housing filled with parents that have money for a boat.
Redistribution of wealth has ruined this country and we need to redistribute work ethic.
If you did not earn it you are not supposed to be given it.
My first child started school in 1991.
This is what we saw for 2 decades as my youngest graduated high school 2011.
Parents driving new SUVs qualifying for free school lunches.
Parents that can work qualifying for social security disability and proud that they have received something for nothing with their handicapped car tags.
Parents that I would see drinking pitchers of beer at the Mexican restaurant down the street registering for their kids to play for free in the rec leagues.
Parents paying for the food with food stamps and paying cash for their Michelob Light, charcoal and Marlboro cartons of smokes.
Section 8 housing filled with parents that have money for a boat.
Redistribution of wealth has ruined this country and we need to redistribute work ethic.
If you did not earn it you are not supposed to be given it.
