Faun
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I don't have to prove from where it started as I never claimed to know from where it started. To prove you wrong, all I had to show is it's not proven to have been the result from gain-of-function research, as you've been falsely claiming. Best part...? I used your own links to prove you wrong.You haven't proven where Covid-19 came from, so my "likely" answer (the Wuhan Lab via GOF research) is better than your non-answer.LOLProve that my links prove me wrong. You can't.LOLOLOk, we're back to childish arguments (shame shame shame) instead of debating facts with credible links.I am not the one claiming where it came from. You are but you can't prove your claim. Your own links don't state what you are claiming. You should at least try to post a link to a verifiable source stating what you claim. And I have no doubt you would have if you could have. Obviously you can't because you are lying and you can't stop lying.Nothing is "proven", NOTHINGThe one lying is you as evidenced by your own links which highlight the fact that it's not been proven that covid is the result of gain-of-function research. And I don't have to prove shit about Fauci. I'm not the one making false claims -- you are. You're the one claiming that covid is the result of gain-of-function research even though your own links don't say that.Keep lying. That's all you know how to do.LOLOLOL1. Agreed that covid-19 was the result of gain-of-function research at the Wuhan LabLOLLOLOLOLThere is no disagreement. Read every word. There is no uncertainty in this article. You're welcome.It trumps nothing. You're literally claiming it was engineered via gain-of-function research when even your own links disagree with you.If Covid-19 most LIKELY was engineered in the Wuhan Lab, that Trumps the UNLIKELY event that it came from the Wuhan wet market, duh.LOLOMG, you are way out of your lane.Actually, Fauci played both sides of the argument...1. Your Lie#1, my point was refuted by my own links. Here is a link proving my point, NIH funded GOF research:"my post stands as correct. 1) NIH funded gain of function research"1. Your post has no content, just lies.LOLClearly you can't debate. You obfuscate. Maybe you know you are fighting the truth, so obfuscation is all you can do.You really can't stop posting bullshit, can ya, con?1. Yes there is evidence that Fauci paid China to do gain of function research. There are tons of credible sites.True, that would be a lie if Fauci actually knew the figure was $826K, but I have no evidence of that either. And your question about support paying China to do "gain of function" research is based on your falsehood that we paid China for gain-of-function research. That's never been proven either.Fauci is a liar. Rand is calling him a liar. The paper trail confirms that Fauci is lying. Do you support paying China to do "gain of function" research to make bat viruses more deadly? I don't.
Fauci claims US gave $600,000 to Wuhan lab research; documents show it was more
In a Senate hearing late last month, top doctor Anthony Fauci told lawmakers the U.S. granted $600,000 in funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology over a five year period, but documents provided by the Department of Health and Human Services Friday show otherwise.www.foxnews.com
But seeing as how you can't stop yourself from lying, I can't wholly state I expect anything different from you.
Why US outsourced bat virus research to Wuhan - Asia Times
The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded bat-coronavirus research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China to the tune of US$3.7 million, aasiatimes.com
There are a lot of unknowns, speculation and differences of opinion on these topics. But let’s start with what we do know: In 2014, the NIH awarded a grant to the U.S.-based EcoHealth Alliance to study the risk of the future emergence of coronaviruses from bats. In 2019, the project was renewed for another five years, but it was canceled in April 2020 — three months after the first case of the coronavirus was confirmed in the U.S.
The Wuhan Lab and the Gain-of-Function Disagreement - FactCheck.org
A disagreement between Republican Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci has put $600,000 of U.S. grant money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology back into the spotlight, while making "gain-of-function" research a household term -- all amid calls for more investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2.www.factcheck.org
EcoHealth ultimately received $3.7 million over six years from the NIH and distributed nearly $600,000 of that total to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology, a collaborator on the project, pre-approved by NIH.
The grant cancellation came at a time when then-President Donald Trump and others questioned the U.S. funding to a lab in Wuhan, while exaggerating the amount of federal money involved.
2. QED. You can't deny the funding.
3. My suspicion is that Dr Fauci's irresponsible research is what killed 600,000 Americans. Covid did not come directly from bats, it was enhanced via gain of function research. It will be proven.
I only got as far as this lie....
The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded bat-coronavirus research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China to the tune of US$3.7 million, a recent article in the British newspaper Daily Mail revealed.
You've now posted 2 articles on this.... one stating the NIH gave the Wuhan $826K, the other stating the NIH gave the Wuhan lab $3.7 million.
Clearly, they can't both be true. So clearly, you're posting fake news again.
So do you ever stop lying?
Ever???
This is exactly the reason you have zero cred. You say abortion is murder... then you say abortion is not murder. You say you're not pro-choice... then you say you are pro-choice. Now you say the NIH gave the Wuhan lab $826K... then you say the NIH gave the Wuhan lab $3.7 million.
You keep relying on fake news -- you keep on embarrassing yourself.
I'm retired, I have all day to post the truth.
1. NIH funded gain of function research at the Wuhan Lab to make bat viruses more deadly, the funding came from several US agencies, thru intermediaries, to cover their asses. So don't whine about the amounts and from whom.
2. The virus got out and killed 600,000 Americans, as well as hurt the US economy, and President Trump's term
US officials may have avoided the coronavirus lab-leak theory to avoid associations with controversial gain-of-function research
The US has funded labs that alter coronaviruses for research. That may have led officials to avoid investigating whether the virus leaked from a lab.www.businessinsider.com
3. Do you ever debate with facts? Ever??
4. In the US is abortion murder, y/n? So stop your stupid grade school arguments or you lose the debate, and that's all I'll put in future replies.
5. Your empty posts show how vapid your grade school arguments are.
You literally posted two different articles that contradicted each other but you project I'm the one obfuscating.
Your lies and nuttiness aside, you claim...
"NIH funded gain of function research at the Wuhan Lab to make bat viruses more deadly"
... but then you post an article that shows you're lying...
Scientists haven't ruled out the possibility that the coronavirus leaked from a lab.
... which means your claims haven't been proven to be true.
I don't even have to debate you. Your own articles do that for me.
2. Your post is contradictory, my post stands as correct. 1) NIH funded gain of function research, and 2) there is a possibility that the (deadlier) virus leaked from the lab.
3. My claims, as supported by Sen Rand Paul as well as many scientists are valid. The US paid for gain of function research, the virus then escaped from the Wuhan Lab.
4. You can't obfuscate when the truth is staring you in the face. All you have are lies and deflection.
Like I said, I have all day to keep re-posting the truth and disproving your childish unsubstantiated obfuscations.
You're still lying (surprise, surprise). Your point was refuted by your own links.
Again, your own links didn't say that. Your own links state that hasn't been confirmed.
If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.
"Dr. Anthony Fauci knew about U.S. funding for the gain of function research occurring at the Wuhan lab in China but downplayed its role in the COVID-19 pandemic, new emails show. Fauci recently denied that specific research was used by the overseas Virology Institute or funded by him.
Emails Show Fauci Downplayed Funding Gain Of Function Research At Wuhan Lab
Dr. Anthony Fauci knew about U.S. funding for the gain of function research occurring at the Wuhan lab in China but downplayed its role in the COVID-19 pandemic, new emails show.thefederalist.com
In emails acquired by Buzzfeed News, Fauci conversed with NIAID Principal Deputy Director Hugh Auchincloss in a conversation labeled “IMPORTANT” about an article detailing the gain of function research occurring in Wuhan through the Wuhan Virology Institute."
2. Here is another credible link proving my point again:
Fauci admits ‘modest’ NIH funding of Wuhan lab but denies ‘gain of function’
The country’s top infectious disease expert has long pushed back on the notion the US funded research that made coronaviruses more lethal or transmissible.nypost.com
Your unsubstantiated lies are obvious, as well as childish. Thanks for playing kid.
The voluntary moratorium on gain-of-function research related to the transmissibility of highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus should continue, pending the resolution of critical policy questions concerning the rationale for performing such experiments and how best to report their results.... the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, a component of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, strongly supports the continuation of this moratorium pending the resolution of critical policy issues related to the rationale for performing and reporting such experiments.
"1. Your Lie#1, my point was refuted by my own links. Here is a link proving my point, NIH funded GOF research:"
Do you ever stop lying? Ever???
Your lie was claiming the NIH paid the Wuhan lab to conduct gain-of-function research and every link you posted stated there was uncertainty if the Wuhan lab did that. So exactly how brain-damaged are you to claim the NIH paid for something which isn't even confirmed to exist??
1. H5N1 is the avian flu or "bird flu" of 1997, not Covid, duh.
2. Your claiming "uncertainty" is way overblown. The link said LIKELY, meaning probably. Just because something isn't confirmed does not mean its false, duh.
3. Its your turn to prove that Covid-19 came from the Wuhan "wet market". If it wasn't engineered in the Wuhan Lab, as paid for by Fauci, then it must have occurred naturally. Please prove that with credible and current links, not the old links from the deep state's cover story. I have current links saying the opposite, duh.
Coronavirus DID leak from Wuhan lab: increasing numbers of experts say
A respected author and China expert has said evidence has emerged suggesting the coronavirus must have leaked from a Wuhan laboratory.www.dailymail.co.uk
Did the coronavirus escape from a Chinese lab? Here's what we know
Experts say animal-to-human transmission is far more likely, but some circumstantial evidence suggests it's possible it was accidentally released by a lab.www.nbcnews.com
I never said Swine Flu is covid. Who knows what I said that triggered that misfiring in your head?
And "likely" is still not certainly, which you continue to claim despite every link you've posted showing you're wrong.
While speaking to co-host Bill Hemmer, Paul elaborated on his allegation and claimed that Dr. Shi Zhengli, the Wuhan-based ‘bat woman’ virologist who researched coronavirus variants in animals, wrote a paper that MIT scientists surmised was referencing gain-of-function research (making pathogens deadlier or more easily transmissible).
Rand Paul: Dr. Fauci lied to Congress about Wuhan lab research funding
Senator Rand Paul, R-Ky., claimed that Dr, Fauci lied to Congress when he denied that the National Institute of Health was funding research at the controversial Wuhan lab, which some allege was the source of the COVID outbreak.
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Paul claims that the paper acknowledged that their funding came from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID), a subset of the NIH where Dr. Fauci is the director.
Paul added that he has looked at the grant application for the Wuhan lab research, which he says also references gain-of-function research, based on the analysis of a Rutgers cellular biologist.
You're such a dumbfuck.
Nothing in that article states covid was the result of gain-of-function research. The claim in that article is Rand Paul accusing the NIH if funding gain-of-function research ... Fauci denying funding was for gain-of-function research ... and then Paul accusing Fauci of lying.
You're still batting 0.000.
You must be illiterate. Here is the fucking sentence you don't comprehend:
"Paul added that he has looked at the grant application for the Wuhan lab research, which he says also references gain-of-function research, based on the analysis of a Rutgers cellular biologist."
...that does say coronavirus virus was the result of gain-of-function research. Even worse for you, read your own fucking link...
"We can’t prove the virus came from the lab." ~ Rand Paul
2. Rand Paul can't prove the virus came from the lab, so what? That's why we need a thorough investigation
3. The virus did NOT come from the "wet market" as the cover story claimed, the specific bats are only found 900 miles from Wuhan, so they had to be brought to the lab for GOF research.
Not even your own links agreed with you that covid was the result of gain-of-function research.
Read post 1351.
See how it is to read unproven posts. Rand Paul proved Fauci paid for GOF research at Wuhan.
Enhanced Covid escaped containment at Wuhan. QED.
There is no other scientific explanation.
You can prove it didn't come from Fauci's gain-of-function research? Didn't think so.
Fauci's idiotic GOF research killed 600,000 Americans.
So where did Covid-19 come from? Prove it.
We're back to those two words:
It is LIKELY that covid came from the GOF research at the Wuhan Lab
It is UNLIKELY that covid went directly from bats to humans.
It is proven that Fauci paid Wuhan for GOF research, its in the Lab's report.
It is LIKELY that Fauci's GOF research killed 600,000 Americans
Fauci claims US gave $600,000 to Wuhan lab research; documents show it was more
In a Senate hearing late last month, top doctor Anthony Fauci told lawmakers the U.S. granted $600,000 in funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology over a five year period, but documents provided by the Department of Health and Human Services Friday show otherwise.Fauci admits ‘modest’ NIH funding of Wuhan lab but denies ‘gain of function’
The country’s top infectious disease expert has long pushed back on the notion the US funded research that made coronaviruses more lethal or transmissible.
Sen. Paul: Fauci emails prove he knew of Wuhan gain-of-function research
Sen. Rand Paul said in an interview with Fox News that the recently revealed emails regarding Dr. Anthony Fauci paint the official in a “disturbing” light.
Shame on you.
1. My claim is that it is LIKELY to have been developed in the Wuhan Lab under Fauci's GOF research funding
2. That is NOT a lie, but it is not a certainty either.
3. If covid didn't come from the Wuhan Lab, where did it come from...and prove it. (you can't prove it)
4. Covid killed 600,000 Americans, so where did it come from?
Debate what with links? Again, your own links prove you wrong. There's nothing else I need to prove.
Prove where Covid-19 came from if not the Wuhan Lab. You can't
So stop posting nonsense if you have no answers.
I don't do childish food fights.
You're fucking deranged, con. It's been proven repeatedly.
You've been claiming, without proof, that covid was caused by gain-of-function research -- but not a single link you posted made any such claim. They all said it's not known at this point.
"HARRIS: So we could have sent money-- through EcoHealth Alliance, money could have ended up in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which might be doing gain-of-function research, and in fact, since they sent a general of the Communist Party army to take over the lab in February 2020. It’s not out of the realm of possibility they’re doing that. Because I do know that money is somewhat fungible, once you send money to institutes, that it bothers me a little bit that we would send money to an institute that might be doing gain-of-function research, especially China. Do we send any money to any sub-agencies or sub-grantees that could be sending money to Russia?"Front Page Featured | MRCTV
cnsnews.com
That answer says it all. We sent money to Communist China to do research, and since that is so moronic, the guy asked, if we also fund Russia's germ warfare research. Perfect question.
