POLL: Who can step in and end this?

[miketx]

As I write this, here is the situation in America:

• The President is holed up in the White House, tweeting out the latest claims and conspiracy theories about America's "rigged" election system.
• The President has not been seen in public since the press conference in which he denied everything, except for a couple of golf outings.
• The President-Elect is being shut out of critical intelligence briefings and other communications, unlike any other President-Elect has been.
• The deadly global virus that the President himself admit he downplayed, is exploding and raging through the country faster than ever.
• Hospital and ICUs are reporting rapidly decreasing space in beds and available services.
• We have not yet hit the peak of this virus season.
• Very few Republican elected officials have had the nerve to even congratulate the President-Elect.
• Trump's legal actions are being regularly tossed out of court.
• Biden now has 290 electoral votes, making Georgia's recount irrelevant.
• Our biggest and most dangerous enemies, China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, are observing this with great glee.
• Our former allies -- our pre-Trump allies -- are congratulating Biden and nervously hoping for some stability from us before it's too late.

So, with that said, who can step in and put an end to this terribly dangerous farce? Please feel free to expand on your answer(s), and you can choose more than one.

I think it needs to be a combination of family and his most loyal servant: Ivanka, Melania, Junior and Pence. All at one time.

 

[DrLove]

Meet the key witness in Rump's voter fraud case!

 

[Mac1958]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

 

[otto105]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

What voting irregularities?

You got something other than blather?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

Gore didn't concede until December, due to the legal actions going on.

Welcome to that reality.

537 contested votes in one state. Lawsuit filed. Judge heard case. Ruling issued. Appeal by other side. Ruling issued by FL Supreme court. Opponent asks for SC to stay. SC hears case. Ruling issued.
No such contest here. Welcome to reality. This ain't 2000. No lawsuit sticking.

Bush v. Gore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[L.K.Eder]

Supreme court here we come---------------and I think it is going to be Thomas who leads the rebellion against Roberts and the (OTHER) Dems.

Roberts has been compromised for those that don't know----the libs have the dirt on him and his visits to Epstein.

Please present actual evidence... You are basically saying that Thomas will ignore his duties... Trump legal team has yet to present any evidence of massive voter fraud in multiple states which will change the result of the election.

No evidence that YOU have seen. That doesn't mean it does not exist, correct?

same "reasoning" applies to bigfoot.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

If Trump ends up winning, will you stop being a commie shit twinkle-toed cocksucker and go back to pretending being "reasonable" like before?

 

[L.K.Eder]

no one will step in and end this charade. the process will go on as laid out in your constitution. biden will become president, and the trumptards will remain convinced that their leader was cheated. when the republicans take the house in 2022, they will try to impeach biden because of his son's laptop, the alleged voter fraud, and because reasons. rudy giuliani might become special counsel. he is just that credible.

Man, you painted a dire picture and now I'm depressed
Just gave more money to Reverend Warnock and Jon Ossoff.
MUST HAVE SENATE!

if it helps, i was not entirely serious with regard to the level of credibility of giuliani.

 

[theHawk]

Our biggest and most dangerous enemies, China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, are observing this with great glee.

That certainly is true. The prospect of Dems winning is a huge win for the communists and Islamic terrorists.

 

[DrLove]

no one will step in and end this charade. the process will go on as laid out in your constitution. biden will become president, and the trumptards will remain convinced that their leader was cheated. when the republicans take the house in 2022, they will try to impeach biden because of his son's laptop, the alleged voter fraud, and because reasons. rudy giuliani might become special counsel. he is just that credible.

Man, you painted a dire picture and now I'm depressed
Just gave more money to Reverend Warnock and Jon Ossoff.
MUST HAVE SENATE!

if it helps, i was not entirely serious with regard to the level of credibility of giuliani.

Oh c'mon now, Rudy is credible. Here he is tucking in his shirt!

 

[mamooth]

Come on man. Does Lefty really think that thousands of people who swear under oath in these affidavits, really are committing perjury under penalty of law when reporting never before seen levels of voter fraud and election fraud?

Quite a few are. That's why religious fanatics and fascist apparatchiks are so dangerous. They literally think that all of their immoral behavior is blessed either by god or the Party, and that such a blessing justifies any and all immoral behavior on their part. Blind fanaticism destroys morality, and the Trump cult demands blind fanatacism.

The vast majority, however, are just breathtakingly stupid people. That's Trump's base. Just look at the Trump cult posters here as obvious examples. If they see an idiot conspiracy theory, they instantly believe it, no matter how reality-defying it is. Those imbeciles were told that everything they saw was election fraud, so that's what they believe.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

 

[sartre play]

Take your eyes off the election for a short while & look at some of the last minute stuff being done at the white house. not good for national security.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

Gore didn't concede until December, due to the legal actions going on.

Welcome to that reality.

537 contested votes in one state. Lawsuit filed. Judge heard case. Ruling issued. Appeal by other side. Ruling issued by FL Supreme court. Opponent asks for SC to stay. SC hears case. Ruling issued.
No such contest here. Welcome to reality. This ain't 2000. No lawsuit sticking.

Bush v. Gore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

One case, one state. you are acting like its the only case.

 

[Mac1958]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

And for the first time, we can't expect common courtesy from a President. What a shame. But not a shock in this particular case.

I think all the other Presidents knew that the incoming President had to have as much access to critical intelligence as quickly as possible, but we can't expect that here. They knew that, in the highly improbable case that he ended up NOT being President, there would be no harm, no foul. ESPECIALLY in this case, where the incoming President is familiar with the basics. But this is a big and critical process, and Trump is being a CHILD. AGAIN.

My goodness. I don't know how this awful, damaged man can be defended, but hopefully soon that won't matter. What an ugly period this has been.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

And for the first time, we can't expect common courtesy from a President. What a shame. But not a shock in this particular case.

I think all the other Presidents knew that the incoming President had to have as much access to critical intelligence as quickly as possible, but we can't expect that here. They knew that, in the highly improbable case that he ended up NOT being President, there would be no harm, no foul. ESPECIALLY in this case, where the incoming President is familiar with the basics. But this is a big and critical process, and Trump is being a CHILD. AGAIN.

My goodness. I don't know how this awful, damaged man can be defended, but hopefully soon that won't matter. What an ugly period this has been.

No, with Dems we get lied to softly, and for some reason rubes think that is better. Trump does what he says, and says what he means. You don't get the platitudes and tangible falsehoods that you get from machine politicians.

Your side treats us as the enemy for 4 years and then expect us and him to place nice. Fuck off.

 

[Mac1958]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

And for the first time, we can't expect common courtesy from a President. What a shame. But not a shock in this particular case.

I think all the other Presidents knew that the incoming President had to have as much access to critical intelligence as quickly as possible, but we can't expect that here. They knew that, in the highly improbable case that he ended up NOT being President, there would be no harm, no foul. ESPECIALLY in this case, where the incoming President is familiar with the basics. But this is a big and critical process, and Trump is being a CHILD. AGAIN.

My goodness. I don't know how this awful, damaged man can be defended, but hopefully soon that won't matter. What an ugly period this has been.

No, with Dems we get lied to softly, and for some reason rubes think that is better. Trump does what he says, and says what he means. You don't get the platitudes and tangible falsehoods that you get from machine politicians.

Your side treats us as the enemy for 4 years and then expect us and him to place nice. Fuck off.

I don't care what he does now, and I don't care what his sheep do. Play the victim, I don't care.

We have a mess to clean up. I don't even feel like gloating.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

And for the first time, we can't expect common courtesy from a President. What a shame. But not a shock in this particular case.

I think all the other Presidents knew that the incoming President had to have as much access to critical intelligence as quickly as possible, but we can't expect that here. They knew that, in the highly improbable case that he ended up NOT being President, there would be no harm, no foul. ESPECIALLY in this case, where the incoming President is familiar with the basics. But this is a big and critical process, and Trump is being a CHILD. AGAIN.

My goodness. I don't know how this awful, damaged man can be defended, but hopefully soon that won't matter. What an ugly period this has been.

No, with Dems we get lied to softly, and for some reason rubes think that is better. Trump does what he says, and says what he means. You don't get the platitudes and tangible falsehoods that you get from machine politicians.

Your side treats us as the enemy for 4 years and then expect us and him to place nice. Fuck off.

I don't care what he does now, and I don't care what his sheep do. Play the victim, I don't care.

We have a mess to clean up. I don't even feel like gloating.

Half the country is "his sheep", and yet you pretend that we can just be swept under the rug in some SJW circle jerk that will be the Biden administration (or eventually the Harris administration say in 2022).

Biden lied about trying to come together, he will continue to lie about being middle of the road, all the while putting people in place to pay back the SJW twats that think they got him elected.

I fully hope the go full nazi on gun control, that will give the GOP the House and a bigger Senate in 2022.

 

[Mac1958]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

And for the first time, we can't expect common courtesy from a President. What a shame. But not a shock in this particular case.

I think all the other Presidents knew that the incoming President had to have as much access to critical intelligence as quickly as possible, but we can't expect that here. They knew that, in the highly improbable case that he ended up NOT being President, there would be no harm, no foul. ESPECIALLY in this case, where the incoming President is familiar with the basics. But this is a big and critical process, and Trump is being a CHILD. AGAIN.

My goodness. I don't know how this awful, damaged man can be defended, but hopefully soon that won't matter. What an ugly period this has been.

No, with Dems we get lied to softly, and for some reason rubes think that is better. Trump does what he says, and says what he means. You don't get the platitudes and tangible falsehoods that you get from machine politicians.

Your side treats us as the enemy for 4 years and then expect us and him to place nice. Fuck off.

I don't care what he does now, and I don't care what his sheep do. Play the victim, I don't care.

We have a mess to clean up. I don't even feel like gloating.

Half the country is "his sheep", and yet you pretend that we can just be swept under the rug in some SJW circle jerk that will be the Biden administration (or eventually the Harris administration say in 2022).

Biden lied about trying to come together, he will continue to lie about being middle of the road, all the while putting people in place to pay back the SJW twats that think they got him elected.

I fully hope the go full nazi on gun control, that will give the GOP the House and a bigger Senate in 2022.

Great. MAGA.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder what your stance would be had Biden requested investigations into voting irregularities (fraud)?

He wouldn't have. He would have accepted the results and conceded...just like Clinton did when the vote margin was 77,000 votes across three states.
Trump has been telegraphing the whole "rigged" thing for months. His behavior was both predictable and inevitable.
My only surprise is at the number of willing sheep and Republican party officials that are playing along with it.

We assumed that he would make a mockery of the election, as he did with his presidency.

I don't think we've talked much about how the rest of the GOP would act, though. I guess if we had thought more about it, we may have concluded that they're rather save their political necks than do what's best for the country.

Kind of like proceeding with impeachment proceedings during the preliminary phases of a Pandemic?

Sure. I don't have a tribe to protect.

But what Trump is doing is far worse and far more dangerous, and any honest person can admit that.

He hasn't done anything in a legal sense yet. There is no such thing as a president-elect until the EC votes and Congress certifies it. Anything before that is courtesy and if you really expect any courtesy from Trump after how he has been treated for the past 4 years then I have a nice stone bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

And that goes for Trumps supporters as well, why should we concede to people that spent the past 4 years howling about how evil we all are?

You don't have to do anything.

And neither does Trump until Biden is selected by the EC and that is certified by congress.

everything before that is courtesy.

And for the first time, we can't expect common courtesy from a President. What a shame. But not a shock in this particular case.

I think all the other Presidents knew that the incoming President had to have as much access to critical intelligence as quickly as possible, but we can't expect that here. They knew that, in the highly improbable case that he ended up NOT being President, there would be no harm, no foul. ESPECIALLY in this case, where the incoming President is familiar with the basics. But this is a big and critical process, and Trump is being a CHILD. AGAIN.

My goodness. I don't know how this awful, damaged man can be defended, but hopefully soon that won't matter. What an ugly period this has been.

No, with Dems we get lied to softly, and for some reason rubes think that is better. Trump does what he says, and says what he means. You don't get the platitudes and tangible falsehoods that you get from machine politicians.

Your side treats us as the enemy for 4 years and then expect us and him to place nice. Fuck off.

I don't care what he does now, and I don't care what his sheep do. Play the victim, I don't care.

We have a mess to clean up. I don't even feel like gloating.

Half the country is "his sheep", and yet you pretend that we can just be swept under the rug in some SJW circle jerk that will be the Biden administration (or eventually the Harris administration say in 2022).

Biden lied about trying to come together, he will continue to lie about being middle of the road, all the while putting people in place to pay back the SJW twats that think they got him elected.

I fully hope the go full nazi on gun control, that will give the GOP the House and a bigger Senate in 2022.

Great. MAGA.

Another duck out by Mac "stand in the middle in his own mind" 1958.