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When did God lead people into temptation?
And an empty dining hall...When did God lead people into temptation?
Preacher's daughter------------In the choir robe closet-------------Christmas party-------------1968.
This is unbelievable. Who does he think he is? It's fine just the way it is. What do you think?
Pope seeks to alter Our Lord's prayer - Vanguard News
Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer
The Pope is probably right on the mistranslated text we use.... it does not fit with anything else the Bible teaches.... the bible does NOT teach that it is God that leads us in to temptation....anywhere.When did God lead people into temptation?
Question: "Why did Jesus instruct us to pray 'lead us not into temptation' when God states that He does not tempt us?"The Pope is probably right on the mistranslated text we use.... it does not fit with anything else the Bible teaches.... the bible does NOT teach that it is God that leads us in to temptation....anywhere.When did God lead people into temptation?
Thank you!Question: "Why did Jesus instruct us to pray 'lead us not into temptation' when God states that He does not tempt us?"The Pope is probably right on the mistranslated text we use.... it does not fit with anything else the Bible teaches.... the bible does NOT teach that it is God that leads us in to temptation....anywhere.When did God lead people into temptation?
Answer: We know from James 1:13 that God does not tempt us to sin. If God did tempt us to sin, He would be acting contrary to His holy nature, against His desire for us to be holy as He is holy (1 Peter 1:16), and against all other commandments in Scripture that tell us to avoid sin and flee temptation. In the Lord’s model prayer (Matthew 6:9–13), Jesus says, “Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one” (verse 13). The inclusion of a request for God not to lead us into temptation teaches us that avoiding temptation should be one of the primary concerns of the Christian life.
The idea of God leading His people is a main theme of Scripture. The book of Psalms especially is filled with pleas for God to lead us in His ways (Psalm 5:8; 27:11), by His truth and righteousness, and in “the way everlasting” (Psalm 139:24). Along with leading us toward good, we understand that we are asking God to lead us away from evil. The petition in the Lord’s Prayer not to be led into temptation reflects the believer’s desire to avoid the dangers of sin altogether. This phrase, then, must be understood in the sense of “permitting.” Jesus taught us to pray, “Do not ‘allow’ us, or ‘permit’ us, to be tempted to sin.” This request implies that God has such control over the tempter as to save us from his power if we call upon our Heavenly Father.
There is another sense in which we are to plead with God not to lead us into temptation. The word temptation can also refer to trials. We know from 1 Corinthians 10:13 that God will not test us beyond our ability in Christ to bear it and will always provide a way out. But God sometimes subjects us to trials that may expose us to Satan’s assaults for His own purposes, as in the cases of Job and Peter (Luke 22:31–32). If the temptation in the Lord’s Prayer refers to trials, then the meaning of Matthew 6:13 is, “Do not afflict or try us.” It is not wrong to pray that we may be delivered from trials and suffering, as long as we submit ourselves to the will of God, no matter what it is. The believer can rightly ask to be delivered from testing as well as ask for the strength to endure it if it does come.
We might illustrate Jesus’ words “Lead us not into temptation” like this: a mother takes her young children grocery shopping with her and comes to the candy aisle. She knows that taking her children down that aisle will only stir up greediness in their hearts and lead to bouts of whining and pouting. In wisdom, she takes another route—whatever she may have needed down the candy aisle will have to wait for another day. In this way the mother averts unpleasantness and spares her children a trial. Praying, “Lead us not into temptation,” is like praying, “God, don’t take me down the candy aisle today.” It’s recognizing that we naturally grasp for unprofitable things and that God’s wisdom can avert the unpleasantness of our bellyaching.
Whether we are asking for God to lead us away from sin or from difficult trials, our goal is found in the second part of verse 13: “Deliver us from the evil one.” A petition similar to this is offered by David in Psalm 141:4: “Do not let my heart be drawn to what is evil so that I take part in wicked deeds along with those who are evildoers; do not let me eat their delicacies.” In all things, God is our deliverer, and we are wise to seek His power over sin.
does anyone have any idea what the original Aramaic version was? Is that prayer supposed to be something Jesus actually said?
does anyone have any idea what the original Aramaic version was? Is that prayer supposed to be something Jesus actually said?
Yes, and yes. That's why the Pope wants to use a more accurate translation for that.
does anyone have any idea what the original Aramaic version was? Is that prayer supposed to be something Jesus actually said?
Yes, and yes. That's why the Pope wants to use a more accurate translation for that.
oh good-----can you give it to me in Aramaic? Hubby might be able to decipher it. uhm.........I do not trust papal translations---------too..... uhm......"goyish" If you can---give it to me in the Hebraized Aramaic that Daniel and Jesus and Ezra actually spoke----
and read and wrote.
When he gave them freewill.....When did God lead people into temptation?
When he gave them freewill.....When did God lead people into temptation?
does anyone have any idea what the original Aramaic version was? Is that prayer supposed to be something Jesus actually said?
Yes, and yes. That's why the Pope wants to use a more accurate translation for that.
oh good-----can you give it to me in Aramaic? Hubby might be able to decipher it. uhm.........I do not trust papal translations---------too..... uhm......"goyish" If you can---give it to me in the Hebraized Aramaic that Daniel and Jesus and Ezra actually spoke----
and read and wrote.
Sorry. I'm just a person on a message board just like you. I'm not an expert in ancient languages. You'll have to google that for yourself.
does anyone have any idea what the original Aramaic version was? Is that prayer supposed to be something Jesus actually said?
Yes, and yes. That's why the Pope wants to use a more accurate translation for that.
oh good-----can you give it to me in Aramaic? Hubby might be able to decipher it. uhm.........I do not trust papal translations---------too..... uhm......"goyish" If you can---give it to me in the Hebraized Aramaic that Daniel and Jesus and Ezra actually spoke----
and read and wrote.
Sorry. I'm just a person on a message board just like you. I'm not an expert in ancient languages. You'll have to google that for yourself.
thanks------maybe I can get if from the Vatican. I know I can get it in Hebrew-------Christians hand out little medals to jews
with the prayer inscribed in Hebrew in Ben Gurion airport---nice little keychain. No doubt coptics have some sort of version---<<<just a guess
