Postcards From a World on Fire

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Like most threads science related, this one is another who's who of the scientifically illiterate (with the exception of Old Rocks, of course)

 

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Like most threads science related, this one is another who's who of the scientifically illiterate (with the exception of Old Rocks, of course)

Scientists come to opposite conclusions about the causes of recent climate change depending on which datasets they consider. For instance, the panels on the left lead to the conclusion that global temperature changes since the mid-19th century have been mostly due to human-caused emissions, especially carbon dioxide (CO2), i.e., the conclusion reached by the UN IPCC reports. In contrast, the panels on the right lead to the exact opposite conclusion, i.e., that the global temperature changes since the mid-19th century have been mostly due to natural cycles, chiefly long-term changes in the energy emitted by the Sun.

Both sets of panels are based on published scientific data, but each uses different datasets and assumptions. On the left, it is assumed that the available temperature records are unaffected by the urban heat island problem, and so all stations are used, whether urban or rural. On the right, only rural stations are used. Meanwhile, on the left, solar output is modeled using the low variability dataset that has been chosen for the IPCC’s upcoming (in 2021/2022) 6th Assessment Reports. This implies zero contribution from natural factors to the long-term warming. On the right, solar output is modeled using a high variability dataset used by the team in charge of NASA’s ACRIM sun-monitoring satellites. This implies that most, if not all, of the long-term temperature changes are due to natural factors.

Here is the link to the full paper.
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[daveman]

You can have a digital subscription for $4 a month. The price of a single latte that you love so much.

Why in Gaea's name would anyone pay good money to get screeched at?

 

[odanny]

Why in Gaea's name would anyone pay good money to get screeched at?

I know you avoid facts, no need to explain yourself.

 

[daveman]

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And what is the correct temperature?

 

[daveman]

Like most threads science related, this one is another who's who of the scientifically illiterate (with the exception of Old Rocks, of course)

What makes you scientifically literate? Repeating your cult's dogma?

You believe this crap because you're told to, not because you understand it.

 

[daveman]

Scientists come to opposite conclusions about the causes of recent climate change depending on which datasets they consider. For instance, the panels on the left lead to the conclusion that global temperature changes since the mid-19th century have been mostly due to human-caused emissions, especially carbon dioxide (CO2), i.e., the conclusion reached by the UN IPCC reports. In contrast, the panels on the right lead to the exact opposite conclusion, i.e., that the global temperature changes since the mid-19th century have been mostly due to natural cycles, chiefly long-term changes in the energy emitted by the Sun.

Both sets of panels are based on published scientific data, but each uses different datasets and assumptions. On the left, it is assumed that the available temperature records are unaffected by the urban heat island problem, and so all stations are used, whether urban or rural. On the right, only rural stations are used. Meanwhile, on the left, solar output is modeled using the low variability dataset that has been chosen for the IPCC’s upcoming (in 2021/2022) 6th Assessment Reports. This implies zero contribution from natural factors to the long-term warming. On the right, solar output is modeled using a high variability dataset used by the team in charge of NASA’s ACRIM sun-monitoring satellites. This implies that most, if not all, of the long-term temperature changes are due to natural factors.

Here is the link to the full paper.
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NO NO THE 2 OCTILLIAN TONS OF SUPERHEATED FUSING HYDROGEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE EARTH'S TEMPERATURE IT'S ALL AMERICAN COAL AND SUVS OBVIOUSLY WORLD SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE US

There, covered that for you, AGW cultists.

 

[daveman]

I know you avoid facts, no need to explain yourself.

It's an opinion piece. It's a leftist opinion piece. It's based on emotion, not facts.

 

[petro]

At what point in history did we not have jackasses like you ignoring the obvious? Whenever there is a change in climate, there is a reason or driver of that change. Just so happens right now that the human race is the chief driver of the ongoing and rapid change that we are presently witnessing.

So what?

Can you describe Earth's ideal climate?

 

[fncceo]

So what?

Can you describe Earth's ideal climate?

 

[westwall]

You can have a digital subscription for $4 a month. The price of a single latte that you love so much.

Fuck the NYT, they aren't worth one thin dime of my money.

 

[petro]

And what is the correct temperature?

Apparently it must remain static since humans stupidly built megacities in flood prone areas.

Hilarious that Cult Greta ignores the elitists who lecture us about our SUV's while they consume the resources of a small town.

Perhaps Bernie, Gore or John Kerry could part with one of their mansions for the good of Mother Earth...

 

[petro]

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Warmer is definitely better.

 

[justinacolmena]

Opinion | Postcards From a World on Fire

Paywalled. People are going church there. Imagining themselves in heaven, and they get a postcard from a relative or friend who allegedly isn't going to the right church to make it to heaven. Sounds like New York Mills, Oneida County, New York.

 

[Ringel05]

Like most threads science related, this one is another who's who of the scientifically illiterate (with the exception of Old Rocks, of course)

Soooo, does that mean that since I have a problem with paywalls in this instance I'm non-science?

 

[progressive hunter]

Hopefully you won't get paywalled, but take a glimpse at how climate change is affecting 193 countries all over the world. No real reading involved, which is a bonus for science skeptics.

Opinion | Postcards From a World on Fire

please tell me you arent still taking the NYT seriously??

 

[justinacolmena]

please tell me you arent still taking the NYT seriously??

>>> New York Mills is a village in Oneida County, New York, United States. The population was 3,327 at the 2010 census. The Village of New York Mills is partly in the Town of Whitestown and partly in the Town of New Hartford. It is a western suburb of the City of Utica.<<<

 

[odanny]

It's an opinion piece. It's a leftist opinion piece. It's based on emotion, not facts.

You clown, you didn't even see it, LOL!

 

[Canon Shooter]

I find the Times to be worth every penny, but I get where you're coming from. I pay for a local subscription, $5 a month, to a newspaper that Gannett bought out and promptly fired 40 of the 50 reporters on staff. It's absolutely horrible reporting, more national than local, and it's not good for the community at all to see our local news reduced to almost nothing.

I'm sure it's a wonderful read. I just happen to get my news elsewhere, and I'll be damned if I'm going to buy the subscription just because someone posts a link which requires a person to subscribe just to read something...

 

[Canon Shooter]

I know you avoid facts, no need to explain yourself.

That's a stupid comment.

He's not "avoiding facts" inasmuch as he's avoiding paying to read someone's opinion.

Who here has ever paid to get past a paywall just to read some global warming article?

Yeah, didn't think so...