POTUS Has Cut Funding to Planned Parenthood

[Ray From Cleveland]

PP can fund themselves just fine. I hear they are having a baby parts sale in the spring.

Those baby parts can save your life

They also influence providers to encourage people to have more abortions as well.

It's like child porn. What's the harm in somebody watching a video of kids having sex? After all, they already had it. The harm is that you create a market for it and it encourages sickos to drug up more kids to make more magazines and films.

holy crap - you are outa your fucking mind....

Did you watch those undercover meetings those people had with Planned Parenthood? They talked about baby parts like they were talking about car parts. Yes, it creates a market for these things, and profit is a motive.

Thatcderbunked video??

PP gets reimbursed the costs to properly handle the fetal tissues for viability for reasearch.


They aren't selling baby parts for Chreisty's sake, Get a fucking brain,.

Reimbursement is not getting paid?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They also influence providers to encourage people to have more abortions as well.

It's like child porn. What's the harm in somebody watching a video of kids having sex? After all, they already had it. The harm is that you create a market for it and it encourages sickos to drug up more kids to make more magazines and films.

holy crap - you are outa your fucking mind....

Did you watch those undercover meetings those people had with Planned Parenthood? They talked about baby parts like they were talking about car parts. Yes, it creates a market for these things, and profit is a motive.

not one case has been found to have been the way you are claiming - where they were sold illegally, although many states investigated.

next....

I never said it was illegal, I said it creates a market for them.

that PP is not involved in.

Would you like the undercover video?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then don't take taxpayer money and they can't tell you to do anything.

So, Mr OMG OMG OMG the government, is for the idea that the government will not reimburse a health provider because they can link to a legal procedure?

Really. so you are for over stepping government if it fits your agenda.

Overstepping? Stopping government funding is taking government out of it.

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

 

[RealDave]

Those baby parts can save your life

They also influence providers to encourage people to have more abortions as well.

It's like child porn. What's the harm in somebody watching a video of kids having sex? After all, they already had it. The harm is that you create a market for it and it encourages sickos to drug up more kids to make more magazines and films.

holy crap - you are outa your fucking mind....

Did you watch those undercover meetings those people had with Planned Parenthood? They talked about baby parts like they were talking about car parts. Yes, it creates a market for these things, and profit is a motive.

Thatcderbunked video??

PP gets reimbursed the costs to properly handle the fetal tissues for viability for reasearch.


They aren't selling baby parts for Chreisty's sake, Get a fucking brain,.

Reimbursement is not getting paid?

It is not selling. It is donating them & just asking their extra costs are covered.

Where do researchers & doctors get their tissue samples?

 

[RealDave]

So, Mr OMG OMG OMG the government, is for the idea that the government will not reimburse a health provider because they can link to a legal procedure?

Really. so you are for over stepping government if it fits your agenda.

Overstepping? Stopping government funding is taking government out of it.

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide range of women health services.

 

[RealDave]

holy crap - you are outa your fucking mind....

Did you watch those undercover meetings those people had with Planned Parenthood? They talked about baby parts like they were talking about car parts. Yes, it creates a market for these things, and profit is a motive.

not one case has been found to have been the way you are claiming - where they were sold illegally, although many states investigated.

next....

I never said it was illegal, I said it creates a market for them.

that PP is not involved in.

Would you like the undercover video?

I've seen it. It's crap. It misrepresents.

 

[playtime]

holy crap - you are outa your fucking mind....

Did you watch those undercover meetings those people had with Planned Parenthood? They talked about baby parts like they were talking about car parts. Yes, it creates a market for these things, and profit is a motive.

not one case has been found to have been the way you are claiming - where they were sold illegally, although many states investigated.

next....

I never said it was illegal, I said it creates a market for them.

that PP is not involved in.

Would you like the undercover video?

saw it & know it was heavily edited as well.

next........

 

[playtime]

So, Mr OMG OMG OMG the government, is for the idea that the government will not reimburse a health provider because they can link to a legal procedure?

Really. so you are for over stepping government if it fits your agenda.

Overstepping? Stopping government funding is taking government out of it.

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide variety of services & if one only has standard medicare - that does not cover doctors... which some those seniors also get medicaid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Overstepping? Stopping government funding is taking government out of it.

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide range of women health services.

Yes they do, especially to 15 year old kids.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Overstepping? Stopping government funding is taking government out of it.

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide variety of services & if one only has standard medicare - that does not cover doctors... which some those seniors also get medicaid.

Then why do they need PP? Go to any medical clinic.

 

[playtime]

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide variety of services & if one only has standard medicare - that does not cover doctors... which some those seniors also get medicaid.

Then why do they need PP? Go to any medical clinic.

that depends on a lot of factors... including ease of access by transportation means or those that accept medicaid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide variety of services & if one only has standard medicare - that does not cover doctors... which some those seniors also get medicaid.

Then why do they need PP? Go to any medical clinic.

that depends on a lot of factors... including ease of access by transportation means or those that accept medicaid.

Well now they're going to have to go somewhere else.

 

[rightwinger]

You are picking on a private company because they do legal shit.

I would thi k even a total ass like you would get that this is not right.

PP can do whatever they want, just let them do it without our tax dollars.

They provide services to Medicaid & Medicare patients. Are they supposed to do it for free?

Really? What senior citizen is getting PP help?

PP offers a wide variety of services & if one only has standard medicare - that does not cover doctors... which some those seniors also get medicaid.

Then why do they need PP? Go to any medical clinic.

Why do patients need the President to tell them which provider they can visit?

Isn’t that what you accused Obama of?

 

[candycorn]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

 

[Lysistrata]

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

Not to go there again but I think it’s important to point something out….

The government doesn’t fund planned parent hood. Never has, never will.

What HHS does is make funding available through Title X for family planning services. It offers monies to those organizations that can provide those services. Planned Parenthood is a vendor who is awarded the grant. The county health clinic where you live is likely another. Theoretically Banner Health could qualify if it wanted to offer the services of it’s nurses, counselors, and navigators for much less than is standard and customary.

The changes to Title X, which will prohibit federal funds to any organization that helps connect women with abortion providers,

So is this wrong, Candy? It doesn't sound as if this is about the reimbursement scale.

It does involve the federal government becoming involved in a religious/ideological debate and taking one side against the other. There is at least an equal amount of Americans who are pro-choice as those who are anti-choice.

Yeah, there’s that. But more incredible along the lines of “brazenly stupid” and “unbelievably stupid” is that the family planning professionals at PP and other healthcare providers are being bypassed in favor of FBOs whose mission is voluntarily dual purpose, to prothletise and to provide healthcare. I don’t think the FBOs are aware of the clientele they are about to invite into their house. I’d like all of the decisions doctors and nurses are making about healthcare to be based 100% on medical science and not some sort of religious dogma.

All information being given to women and girls regarding any issue that involves their reproductive capacities, birth control, abortion, and related issues should be approved by the American Medical Association, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the American Psychological Association. There is much too much bogus "information" being circulated by people who are out-right lying to the public.

 

[beautress]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

 

[Geaux4it]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
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On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

I have a feeling this is not going to have the effect he's hoping for.

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

I guess we will find out. I'm sure PP has working groups formed to address the potential lack of baby body parts to sale

-Geaux

 

[Lysistrata]

Now that PP has been stripped of federal funding, let's be certain that federal funds are not being funneled to "crisis pregnancy centers," which are non-medical ideological indoctrination centers that are applying for Title X grants. We taxpayers should not have to pay for them.

We've already had milllions wasted on "abstinence only education," which did nothing but subsidize the imposition of sectarian beliefs in our schools.

 

[Geaux4it]

Abstinence

-Geaux

 

[beautress]

Now that PP has been stripped of federal funding, let's be certain that federal funds are not being funneled to "crisis pregnancy centers," which are non-medical ideological indoctrination centers that are applying for Title X grants. We taxpayers should not have to pay for them.

We've already had milllions wasted on "abstinence only education," which did nothing but subsidize the imposition of sectarian beliefs in our schools.

Apparently you are so anti-church you cannot wrap your mind around who begat the idea of education for all, and who began educating all the community's children barring none in the beginning of this country's nationhood. That was the Church, and in particular, the Christian Church. They held classes in the Minister's office, in the Social Halls, a few churches had Sunday School classrooms, and those were used in communities in which the local church had classrooms. After we became the United States, the population received a boom from countries in which people came from many countries around the globe to be in America, the land of the free, where your earned money was not stolen in the form of taxes. Men were the teachers, and women were at home taking care of children and all things domestic. Men worked, farmed, and hunted to bring home the bacon. AS America grew, so did the numbers of children, and they outgrew the Churches, so communities built special buildings just for educating children, and like a good idea, it caught on and became popular in most states. Even so, some churches continued to educate their own children. For two centuries thereafter, schools were tasked with teaching the 3 R's (reading, writing, and 'rithmetic,) girls were allowed in some, then all of the schools, but the teachers were required to set a Christian example for their children and were fired with no compensation if they failed to do that. PTA groups came later to ensure children were being appropriately instructed in good manners by godly men and women teachers.

Only recently with laws enacted to liberalize sexuality into anything goes have the schools gone atheistic in nature, and laws were passed in which the Bible could not be read, and Christian prayers were disallowed over the intercoms in classrooms. Language has devolved, immorality is expected and accepted instead of punished, and life goes on. If we are going forward in this manner, our nation has the responsibility to remove the tax burden from those who do not send their children to public schools due to the result being atheistic children who have no compunction about leaving home with hatred for parents and never coming back to take care of parents who grow old and weak.

This bad society that is being bred to instruct children to be "me" people has all but dissolved the American dream. Who wants to grow old and have no family, still required to pay disabling land taxes if they own a farm to narcissists who hate their own elderly parents, they only care to divide other people's money between themselves under the new Communistic paradise for the young, not the old who are as useless to them as their aborted fetuses?

Of course, people in Congress such as Nancy Pelosi, whose family fortune grew from two million dollars her first day of Congress to two hundred million dollars, all this does not matter to them, the laws they passed to discredit their rivals do unseen damages to middle class people whose farm and businesses cannot be supported during old age health problems. Communism will remove the American Dream from those who worked hard for their money. If the federal taxes are removed, the local taxes will glut what little is left of our elders' wealth by its expropriation by the county tax assessor. Period.