POTUS Has Cut Funding to Planned Parenthood

[Ray From Cleveland]

Now that PP has been stripped of federal funding, let's be certain that federal funds are not being funneled to "crisis pregnancy centers," which are non-medical ideological indoctrination centers that are applying for Title X grants. We taxpayers should not have to pay for them.

We've already had milllions wasted on "abstinence only education," which did nothing but subsidize the imposition of sectarian beliefs in our schools.

Does stripping federal funds affect their abortion services?

No
Since abortion services do not receive federal funds

Then you have no problem with it then, correct?

You are confusing the two. Since abortion services do not receive federal funding, as opposed to lying "pregnancy crisis centers," why would funding be taken away for PP's other services?

Because you can't reasonably be able to say X money goes here and X money goes there. Let me give you an example:

Let's say PP performs 10,000 mammograms a year, and provides 5,000 abortions a year. They say federal funds are used for the mammograms and private funding for the abortions. Okay, how do you prove such a thing? It's simply not possible. You can do it on paper of course, but you can't do it literally.

So Trump comes along and says no more funding to PP. Do you think it will only affect mammograms? If you do, you must be kidding yourself. The money they receive still gets divided by 2 mammograms for every abortion. In other words, PP abortions will not stop. They may do less of them, but not eliminate them. They will find other sources of funding for both procedures.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

You mean the same parents that give their daughters BC pills because they know they will likely be raped along the journey? Say it isn't so..........

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

The idiocy of spending dollars on public assistance and incarceration instead of spending pennies on prevention. All because the provider of the prevention is morally objectionable to you

Who's getting incarcerated and for what?

What you are saying is if taxpayers don't provide funding for birth control, people have no ability to get it on their own. Do you know how helpless that sounds?

If you want to fund your own birth control., work at McDonald's one day a week. The pay is more than enough for your pills, jells, or whatever for the month. I know it's too much to ask to not have sex until you can afford these luxuries for yourself. I feel so selfish asking people to provide for themselves. What kind of American am I anyway?

 

[Crixus]

He keeps the cud chewing Democrats busy doesn’t he?

It’s the ONLY reason I will vote for him again. I mean, no one gets them shitting them selves better then trump.

 

[Dana7360]

yeah abortions

Wrong again

Feds are prohibited from paying for abortions for thirty years

but once they give the money to PP its not the feds anymore and they can spend it as they please

would you be OK if the feds gave money to gun manufacturers???

They are reimbursed for services rendered
Those services cannot be abortion

but thats 90% of what they do,,,
youve been conned,,, they put the money in their general fund and spread it out

90 percent of what they do does not involve abortion. They get reimbursed for non abortion services

Actually it's 97%.

Only 3% of their business is abortion.

 

[candycorn]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

She's on a fishing expedition to decimate religion from the nation, Ray. All Republicans and/or conservatives are targets. That's what the paranoia that accompanies new Socialistic regime wannabes. Right now, the plan was to get as many women into murdering their own babies in order to prepare them for murdering any and all opposition to their bullying their thought police intentions on the masses. They excuse themselves and their collaborators from behaviors for which they destroy other people.

You do quite well on your own whe it comes to making a mockery of Christianity

 

[candycorn]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

Matching the criminality of the parents with intentional cruelty on our end is sick. You should stop pretending you are a Christian

 

[Coyote]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

The idiocy of spending dollars on public assistance and incarceration instead of spending pennies on prevention. All because the provider of the prevention is morally objectionable to you

Who's getting incarcerated and for what?

What you are saying is if taxpayers don't provide funding for birth control, people have no ability to get it on their own. Do you know how helpless that sounds?

If you want to fund your own birth control., work at McDonald's one day a week. The pay is more than enough for your pills, jells, or whatever for the month. I know it's too much to ask to not have sex until you can afford these luxuries for yourself. I feel so selfish asking people to provide for themselves. What kind of American am I anyway?

One that either doesn’t believe in systems that actually work. We all pay for the cost of unwanted pregnancies one way or another. Paying for B.C. is a lot cheaper than a child.

 

[Coyote]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No. The parents did not. Our elected government created a new policy that did that. A policy they and their supporters are too cowardly to own after it’s horrific results, so they blame the parents.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

The idiocy of spending dollars on public assistance and incarceration instead of spending pennies on prevention. All because the provider of the prevention is morally objectionable to you

Who's getting incarcerated and for what?

What you are saying is if taxpayers don't provide funding for birth control, people have no ability to get it on their own. Do you know how helpless that sounds?

If you want to fund your own birth control., work at McDonald's one day a week. The pay is more than enough for your pills, jells, or whatever for the month. I know it's too much to ask to not have sex until you can afford these luxuries for yourself. I feel so selfish asking people to provide for themselves. What kind of American am I anyway?

Another case of one who puts their ideology ahead of less babies being killed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

The idiocy of spending dollars on public assistance and incarceration instead of spending pennies on prevention. All because the provider of the prevention is morally objectionable to you

Who's getting incarcerated and for what?

What you are saying is if taxpayers don't provide funding for birth control, people have no ability to get it on their own. Do you know how helpless that sounds?

If you want to fund your own birth control., work at McDonald's one day a week. The pay is more than enough for your pills, jells, or whatever for the month. I know it's too much to ask to not have sex until you can afford these luxuries for yourself. I feel so selfish asking people to provide for themselves. What kind of American am I anyway?

One that either doesn’t believe in systems that actually work. We all pay for the cost of unwanted pregnancies one way or another. Paying for B.C. is a lot cheaper than a child.

And that's the system the Democrats created for this country. Be as irresponsible as you like. When you end up in trouble, we taxpayers will bail you out. And when you act irresponsible again, we taxpayers will bail you out again.

Gee, I wonder why people are becoming more and more irresponsible in this country?

 

[beautress]

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

Matching the criminality of the parents with intentional cruelty on our end is sick. You should stop pretending you are a Christian

You have nothing but conceited contempt for everybody who doesn't kiss your party ass, madam, and it has nothing to do with my belief in Jesus Christ and never will.

 

[beautress]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No. The parents did not. Our elected government created a new policy that did that. A policy they and their supporters are too cowardly to own after it’s horrific results, so they blame the parents.

The parents broke the law.

 

[beautress]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

She's on a fishing expedition to decimate religion from the nation, Ray. All Republicans and/or conservatives are targets. That's what the paranoia that accompanies new Socialistic regime wannabes. Right now, the plan was to get as many women into murdering their own babies in order to prepare them for murdering any and all opposition to their bullying their thought police intentions on the masses. They excuse themselves and their collaborators from behaviors for which they destroy other people.

You do quite well on your own whe it comes to making a mockery of Christianity

I oppose the needless taking of human life just because it's only got a few cells to start out with. I believe that the words of the Bible are true, that God knows when a human being there before its mother and assorted pregnancy tests knows it's there. Jesus Christ supported Biblical teachings and taught Christian people to love God and his kind of knowledge. If I'm guilty of believing that an unborn mass of cells is the beginning of life, take me out for that. Believing Jesus is not a mockery of him or of Christianity. It is support of my belief that human life is a beautiful thing. I cannot stop nonbelievers from hating me. Face it. Your hatred of me for this issue of calling the killing of innocent, unborn American citizens has brought out your gut to this forum, and not my belief in Christ.

 

[beautress]

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

Matching the criminality of the parents with intentional cruelty on our end is sick. You should stop pretending you are a Christian

Again, I'm not pretending.So I'll repeat this once more so that you can come to grips with your hatred of me for opposing abortion for what it is.

And I reiterate: I oppose the needless taking of human life just because it's only got a few cells to start out with. I believe that the words of the Bible are true, that God knows when a human being there before its mother and assorted pregnancy tests knows it's there. Jesus Christ supported Biblical teachings and taught Christian people to love God and his kind of knowledge. If I'm guilty of believing that an unborn mass of cells is the beginning of life, take me out for that. Believing Jesus is not a mockery of him or of Christianity. It is support of my belief that human life is a beautiful thing. I cannot stop nonbelievers from hating me. Face it. Your hatred of me for this issue of calling the killing of innocent, unborn American citizens has brought out your gut to this forum, and not my belief in Christ.
​

Please leave my first amendment rights alone.

 

[Faun]

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

Matching the criminality of the parents with intentional cruelty on our end is sick. You should stop pretending you are a Christian

Again, I'm not pretending.So I'll repeat this once more so that you can come to grips with your hatred of me for opposing abortion for what it is.

And I reiterate: I oppose the needless taking of human life just because it's only got a few cells to start out with. I believe that the words of the Bible are true, that God knows when a human being there before its mother and assorted pregnancy tests knows it's there. Jesus Christ supported Biblical teachings and taught Christian people to love God and his kind of knowledge. If I'm guilty of believing that an unborn mass of cells is the beginning of life, take me out for that. Believing Jesus is not a mockery of him or of Christianity. It is support of my belief that human life is a beautiful thing. I cannot stop nonbelievers from hating me. Face it. Your hatred of me for this issue of calling the killing of innocent, unborn American citizens has brought out your gut to this forum, and not my belief in Christ.
​

Please leave my first amendment rights alone.

You’re entitled to your rights. Just like all pregnant women are entitled to theirs.

 

[candycorn]

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

Matching the criminality of the parents with intentional cruelty on our end is sick. You should stop pretending you are a Christian

Again, I'm not pretending.So I'll repeat this once more so that you can come to grips with your hatred of me for opposing abortion for what it is.

And I reiterate: I oppose the needless taking of human life just because it's only got a few cells to start out with. I believe that the words of the Bible are true, that God knows when a human being there before its mother and assorted pregnancy tests knows it's there. Jesus Christ supported Biblical teachings and taught Christian people to love God and his kind of knowledge. If I'm guilty of believing that an unborn mass of cells is the beginning of life, take me out for that. Believing Jesus is not a mockery of him or of Christianity. It is support of my belief that human life is a beautiful thing. I cannot stop nonbelievers from hating me. Face it. Your hatred of me for this issue of calling the killing of innocent, unborn American citizens has brought out your gut to this forum, and not my belief in Christ.
​

Please leave my first amendment rights alone.

You have the right to be a hypocrite.
At this point, I think you’re a professional at it.

 

[candycorn]

Abortion and aliens are not necessarily religious arguments.

Sure they are. You love your neighbor...just not the brown ones

We have a sovereign country we need to preserve. We have people....even atheists who believe that abortion is murder. It's not divided along religious lines, and laws are not created to support religious values. They are also divided down moral lines and American values.

In one case you cry about the supposed poor economic impact and in the other case you’re fine with the poor Economic impact.

In one case you wield supposed religious objections and on the other you ignore your faith.

Your arguments are neither principled or even intelligent

When did I make a case for "my" religious argument? I don't follow any religion. What economic impact am I fine with?

She's on a fishing expedition to decimate religion from the nation, Ray. All Republicans and/or conservatives are targets. That's what the paranoia that accompanies new Socialistic regime wannabes. Right now, the plan was to get as many women into murdering their own babies in order to prepare them for murdering any and all opposition to their bullying their thought police intentions on the masses. They excuse themselves and their collaborators from behaviors for which they destroy other people.

You do quite well on your own whe it comes to making a mockery of Christianity

I oppose the needless taking of human life just because it's only got a few cells to start out with. I believe that the words of the Bible are true, that God knows when a human being there before its mother and assorted pregnancy tests knows it's there. Jesus Christ supported Biblical teachings and taught Christian people to love God and his kind of knowledge. If I'm guilty of believing that an unborn mass of cells is the beginning of life, take me out for that. Believing Jesus is not a mockery of him or of Christianity. It is support of my belief that human life is a beautiful thing. I cannot stop nonbelievers from hating me. Face it. Your hatred of me for this issue of calling the killing of innocent, unborn American citizens has brought out your gut to this forum, and not my belief in Christ.

Great, then you should be fully supportive of what the HHS has done, provide low-cost contraceptives through Title X.

Are you for HHS providing low-cost contraceptives?

 

[candycorn]

I do love the duality of the arguments being made by the conservative dumbfucks.

On one hand we have the wall. If you believe them, the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families, gunning down “invaders” when they cross into our nation, denying asylum seekers any hearing at all etc… Why? For economics. And even that is a thoroughly debunked argument. In 18 years, our GDP has doubled, The Stock Market has more than doubled, and average household income has climbed. One would think that the supposed influx of cheap labor and the much-over-hyped welfare spending on illegals would not have allowed any of that. But it has.

Then on the other hand, we have the abortion debate again for some reason. Amazingly, the arguments from the conservative dumbfucks is 180 degrees opposite and based only on fabled Christian values—one dumbass even said that sex outside of marriage was “irresponsible”. When you point out that pennies for pills (literally pennies—check out the 340B program available to HCAs) is much preferable to the dollars that we will spend in terms of public assistance and incarceration—which is where many if not most unwanted pregnancies wind up—they don’t want to her it.

So on one hand, the Economic argument overshadows their “christianity”.
On the other hand, the “christianity" argument overshadows the massive economic penalty that we all pay.

The hypocrisy has a stench you can smell, does it not?

Quote: " the Christian values are nowhere to be found when you’re talking about stripping kids away from their families"​

How you put that tells me we had different sources for our information, candy. The "parents" placed their children with other people on purpose. That way, when they decided to cross, all they would have to do is demand to see their children. So it was not a case in my mind of stripping the children away from their parents, it was just the opposite. The parents stripped their own children away from themselves. And they did not do it to insure their children would "have a better life without them." They used their children in the worst way possible, and how can you blame us for the primary evil their parents committed in order to create a false case scenario against Christian people just trying to deal with a very bad situation. Calling all of us on this item as a righteous judge pronouncing evil against us doesn't bother me, because I account my sins to my God and Lord Savior. But it might bother some people who know they did not err by placing the children in a separate facility from the caravan they came in on. Their parents were simply not present, and they were simply not present on a purpose--to hurt and humiliate, possibly in coordination with someone over here who desires evil on people who vote along conservative lines. Please tell me you did not know their parents put their children at risk, because many of the coyotes are evil people, and small children should not be under the tutelage of a drug dealer, a child molester, and when worried about being apprehended would murder each and every member of his caravan by taking them out one by one, and leaving them in a remote area that might not be found for several months or even years. Can you possibly forgive those who took those children away from such a caravan and placed them in an area away from harm? I hope that you do forgive those doing the very best they can to ensure the safe return of those children to their parents, if they can find them..

Thanks for highlighting the comical (I hope) practice of supposed Christian values.

So since the migrants were in some cases cruel to their children you think the Christian thing to do is be twice as cruel in return and separate families as a deterrent.

Clearly, God would not be pleased with you if he existed.

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No. The parents did not. Our elected government created a new policy that did that. A policy they and their supporters are too cowardly to own after it’s horrific results, so they blame the parents.

The parents broke the law.

I agree. They broke the law.

Does that force you to put the kid in a prison camp for months if not years; prohibited from having any contact with their family?

Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone

 

[22lcidw]

Separate the families? The parents did that. Are you an idiot, Madam Righteous Judge?

No...we did that

No...the criminal parents did that by putting their children in harm's way at every single level in this garbage you are intentionally creating a dumping ground on the wrong people. You are a TDS idiot.

Matching the criminality of the parents with intentional cruelty on our end is sick. You should stop pretending you are a Christian

Again, I'm not pretending.So I'll repeat this once more so that you can come to grips with your hatred of me for opposing abortion for what it is.

And I reiterate: I oppose the needless taking of human life just because it's only got a few cells to start out with. I believe that the words of the Bible are true, that God knows when a human being there before its mother and assorted pregnancy tests knows it's there. Jesus Christ supported Biblical teachings and taught Christian people to love God and his kind of knowledge. If I'm guilty of believing that an unborn mass of cells is the beginning of life, take me out for that. Believing Jesus is not a mockery of him or of Christianity. It is support of my belief that human life is a beautiful thing. I cannot stop nonbelievers from hating me. Face it. Your hatred of me for this issue of calling the killing of innocent, unborn American citizens has brought out your gut to this forum, and not my belief in Christ.
​

Please leave my first amendment rights alone.

You’re entitled to your rights. Just like all pregnant women are entitled to theirs.

You are the Exterminators! Exterminate.....exterminate...exterminate....