JakeStarkey
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It was before we came West.Most Americans recognize the value of immigration to the United States and know that it is a source of strength for a growing economy and demographically helps the United States as its population ages. There are certain sectors of the country that are against immigration, but its really more just racism and blaming others for changes in society.
Americans love Free Trade because it makes the goods Americans buy everyday cheaper. It also expands business opportunities with increasing exports. Protectionism has a poor record and is outdated in the 21st century.
The majority of the American public wants to continue to protect areas of the world that are vital to United States security and are critical to the United States economy. The Persian Gulf, Japan, South Korea, and Europe remain vital interest of the United States just as they have been for the past 70 years. Abandoning U.S. security commitments abroad will create a world where third World War would be possible. It was U.S. isolationism prior to the first World War and 2nd World War that helped create the conditions that led to those wars.
This will become perfectly clear to everyone when Trump is slaughtered in November.
Unless you're taking advantage of cheap labor in the west most people do not see low skill immigration as a boon
Yes having bodies gives us a slight geopolitical advantage. But the children of Honduran and Mexican illegals who's fathers are educated as well as our middle schoolers are not a boon
Guest workers are only a boon in Saudi Arabia because they treat them like an underclass.
Our guest workers get to go to school with our children and suck up funds for medical care
Almost no one in this country is for limited immigration. The dumbest immigrants should be last in line. That includes the poor mexicans who poor across our borders and drive the wages of poor Americans down.
You're just wrong
Being pro immigrant is a pro capital position, (being pro low skill labor immigration means you really hate poor people and don't understand the implications of having a massive brown underclass)
We want a nation of equals. Not a nation of equals plus hispanics who's majority of descendants won't be assimilated in our lifetime.
If you consider yourself a progressive you should be against low skill immigration. It's terrible for our poor.
Trading an insignificant increase in GDP for a massive loss in GDP per capita and a bigger strain on social services especially in urban areas.
Your failing to see that many wealthy educated whites are not having children. Without immigration the United States would be having a declining population which would result in all kinds of problems. We do not want to suffer the economic and demographic problems that Japan, European countries and even China will be suffering in the coming decades. U.S. immigration is the way it is today largely because that is what society has demanded. People from Latin America come to work in the United States because there are opportunities waiting for them. We need the workers and they desire the work. That is how it has worked since the United States became a country in 1776. Many o f the people who came to the United States in the 19th century would also be defined as "ILLEGAL" based on existing laws. Built up government regulation on immigration has also been a factor in making what was once legal, illegal. A good example of where government interfere's with the business interest of individuals in the United States.
Any Human Being, regardless of age, can get a better education and learn new skills. So just because someone comes to the United States under-educated or under-skilled does not mean they will stay that way.
We can have almost infinite legal immigration. And pull people who are well above the American average in education and IQ
It does not make any sense to ship in people to be our maids or pick our fruit. There is no job an American won't take. There are just wages Americans won't accept.
We had downward pressure on low skill employment for 2 generations. Continuiing to ship in idiots will not be good for poor Americans. Even if you wanted 100 million people over the next 10 years to immigrate. We could do it all legally and get very skilled individuals to come here, we are the most attractive place on the planet to immigrate to.
Hundreds of millions of people living in the third world that have already been educated by their society. We don't need mexicans educated at a 6th grade level to do anything. We are not Saudi Arabia. You're just wrong
We need educated Latinos and everyone else that wants to come. Not people to undercut poor American laborers. Not bring in people who will take 4 generations to assimilate.
Sorry, but your ignoring basic economic realities of immigration and free trade that occur because people in the United States demand it. The United States has a minimum wage, unlike most other third world countries so the idea that the current policy is driving down wages is false. Wages continue to rise or sometimes stagnate and inflation is LOW which is good. Latin American immigration to the United States has been positive for the economy and society far more than it has been negative which is why it has continued for all our countries history and should continue well into the future. It is one of the key reasons why the United States remains one of the strongest countries in the world. Trumps ideas of building a WALL and deporting people are idiotic and would hurt the country and the economy as well as drive the U.S. population towards the democraphic problems that are being suffered in Japan and Europe. U.S. economic growth for the past two centuries has been driven heavily by immigration and as the population grows older immigration will become an even more economic necessity than it has been in the past.
You think the minimum wage is an appropriate wage for an American citizen?
It's difficult to live on double minimum wage. It has not been positive for the economy unless you only look at GDP.
It has strained our system, we treat mexicans much better than the GDP they produce would make economic sense to.
Again you have not explained why we want middle shcool educated latinos as opposed to high IQ inidivudals that speak perfect English.
You stupid white trash
You're taking a pro capital position. You're on the same side as teh rich libertarians. Poor mexicans are not a boon to this country in any way. Economically and certanily not geopolticially.
Mexicans are literally colonizing the SW, New Mexico is going to be majority mexican soon.
