President Blames Boehner

[Soggy in NOLA]

Not really. Whether the issue is obamacare, or some other law that was legally enacted, is irrelevant. Cruz elevated the issue to whether 15 senators and 30-40 reps can be allowed to shut down the govt because they don't like a LAW. They left Obama no room for compromise, and are frankly surprised Obama didn't cave, like he always has before.

They miscalculated. His legacy is Obamacare, but if he caves on this, his legacy will be the potus who abandoned representative democracy.

What utter bullshit... ACA was shoved through with an eleventh hour parliamentary trick... it doesn't enjoy anywhere near majority support, it is riddled with cronyism, special deals for Obama supporters, companies are running from it, it is driving premiums up, many of the exchanges aren't even working yet, etc.

People overwhelmingly don't want this. .you and your lefty minions need to get over it.

if that's true you should be able to discuss and pass reasonable changes and amendments to the bill.

have you tried doing that?

How could I? You may not know this, but you have to be in Congress to do that.

Dumbass...

 

[iamwhatiseem]

if the shoe fits.

does anyone honestly believe that if a clean cr went to vote in the house it wouldn't pass today?

And here we have it folks....the entire left doesn't consider IF it should pass...just that, well...because Obama said so...it should pass with no questions asked.

BAA BAA Sheep.

i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't do intentional harm to the economy. call me crazy, i know.

and at least i'm not taking my marching orders from college drop out talk radio hosts.

really? intentional harm to the economy...so we should pass all bad bills no matter what?
The Democrats will not even remotely consider any changes whatsoever to the ACA, none, zip - nada. And so the Republicans thinking surely they will now, if we attach it to the spending bill - they have to at least listen...NO.
So the government shuts down, and your answer is for those questioning parts of the ACA to just keep their mouths shut and go along.
I see.

 

[Jarhead]

Not really. Whether the issue is obamacare, or some other law that was legally enacted, is irrelevant. Cruz elevated the issue to whether 15 senators and 30-40 reps can be allowed to shut down the govt because they don't like a LAW. They left Obama no room for compromise, and are frankly surprised Obama didn't cave, like he always has before.

They miscalculated. His legacy is Obamacare, but if he caves on this, his legacy will be the potus who abandoned representative democracy.

What utter bullshit... ACA was shoved through with an eleventh hour parliamentary trick... it doesn't enjoy anywhere near majority support, it is riddled with cronyism, special deals for Obama supporters, companies are running from it, it is driving premiums up, many of the exchanges aren't even working yet, etc.

People overwhelmingly don't want this. .you and your lefty minions need to get over it.

We don't need to get over it; we won.

Correction..

You didn't win. YThe people you voted for won.

And those people?

They decided NOT to ask you if they can give themselves subsidies to help curb the increase in the cost of their healthcare.

They simply gave it to themselves.

And you want to know why they knew they can do that for themselves?

Because they knew that the ones who voted for them would be so busy saying "we won" that they wouldn't question why there needed to be a special consideration for members of congress and their staffers.

But hey...you won!

Good for you.

 

[squeeze berry]

Wow... Obama blames somebody else?

Shocked I say!!!!

that's all the blamer - in - chief does

finger pointing and can't compromise or accept responsibility

can't blame Obama for doing that, it worked for him all his life

 

[Jarhead]

And here we have it folks....the entire left doesn't consider IF it should pass...just that, well...because Obama said so...it should pass with no questions asked.

BAA BAA Sheep.

i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't do intentional harm to the economy. call me crazy, i know.

and at least i'm not taking my marching orders from college drop out talk radio hosts.

really? intentional harm to the economy...so we should pass all bad bills no matter what?
The Democrats will not even remotely consider any changes whatsoever to the ACA, none, zip - nada. And so the Republicans thinking surely they will now, if we attach it to the spending bill - they have to at least listen...NO.
So the government shuts down, and your answer is for those questioning parts of the ACA to just keep their mouths shut and go along.
I see.

Correction...
The democrats DID consider certain changes to the ACA.
Such as subsidies for the President and members of congress
Special considerations for certain special interest groups


You know...changes THEY wanted....but none for the average US citizen.

 

[ogibillm]

What utter bullshit... ACA was shoved through with an eleventh hour parliamentary trick... it doesn't enjoy anywhere near majority support, it is riddled with cronyism, special deals for Obama supporters, companies are running from it, it is driving premiums up, many of the exchanges aren't even working yet, etc.

People overwhelmingly don't want this. .you and your lefty minions need to get over it.

if that's true you should be able to discuss and pass reasonable changes and amendments to the bill.

have you tried doing that?

How could I? You may not know this, but you have to be in Congress to do that.

Dumbass...

if you're going to be intentionally obtuse there's no helping you.
'you' as in the plural - 'you' your side, 'you' the destructive toddlers throwing the hissy fit.

 

[Defiant1]

if the shoe fits.

does anyone honestly believe that if a clean cr went to vote in the house it wouldn't pass today?

So you believe the president can tell the speaker how to run the house?

 

[ogibillm]

if the shoe fits.

does anyone honestly believe that if a clean cr went to vote in the house it wouldn't pass today?

So you believe the president can tell the speaker how to run the house?

i believe the president is right and that if speaker boehner allowed a vote it would pass.

 

[BDBoop]

And here we have it folks....the entire left doesn't consider IF it should pass...just that, well...because Obama said so...it should pass with no questions asked.

BAA BAA Sheep.

i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't do intentional harm to the economy. call me crazy, i know.

and at least i'm not taking my marching orders from college drop out talk radio hosts.

Yeah, only dimwitted community agitators who wouldn't know how to create a dime of wealth if their life depended on it.

Guess it's just blind luck that he's a multi-millionaire then.

 

[BDBoop]

What utter bullshit... ACA was shoved through with an eleventh hour parliamentary trick... it doesn't enjoy anywhere near majority support, it is riddled with cronyism, special deals for Obama supporters, companies are running from it, it is driving premiums up, many of the exchanges aren't even working yet, etc.

People overwhelmingly don't want this. .you and your lefty minions need to get over it.

We don't need to get over it; we won.

Correction..

You didn't win. YThe people you voted for won.

And those people?

They decided NOT to ask you if they can give themselves subsidies to help curb the increase in the cost of their healthcare.

They simply gave it to themselves.

And you want to know why they knew they can do that for themselves?

Because they knew that the ones who voted for them would be so busy saying "we won" that they wouldn't question why there needed to be a special consideration for members of congress and their staffers.

But hey...you won!

Good for you.

Thank you! I am vry happy that we won.

 

[kaz]

Oh, shit! That's gonna leave a mark

Being the target of our whiny, finger pointing holier than thou President? No shame in that.

 

[Jarhead]

i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't do intentional harm to the economy. call me crazy, i know.

and at least i'm not taking my marching orders from college drop out talk radio hosts.

Yeah, only dimwitted community agitators who wouldn't know how to create a dime of wealth if their life depended on it.

Guess it's just blind luck that he's a multi-millionaire then.

lol...

You really don't get it...do you.

 

[ogibillm]

And here we have it folks....the entire left doesn't consider IF it should pass...just that, well...because Obama said so...it should pass with no questions asked.

BAA BAA Sheep.

i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't do intentional harm to the economy. call me crazy, i know.

and at least i'm not taking my marching orders from college drop out talk radio hosts.

really? intentional harm to the economy...so we should pass all bad bills no matter what?
The Democrats will not even remotely consider any changes whatsoever to the ACA, none, zip - nada. And so the Republicans thinking surely they will now, if we attach it to the spending bill - they have to at least listen...NO.
So the government shuts down, and your answer is for those questioning parts of the ACA to just keep their mouths shut and go along.
I see.

what changes have the republicans proposed that weren't attached to the spending bill? any?

and that's why they are to blame for the shutdown - that and the fact they wouldn't negotiate on an actual budget.

 

[Jarhead]

We don't need to get over it; we won.

Correction..

You didn't win. YThe people you voted for won.

And those people?

They decided NOT to ask you if they can give themselves subsidies to help curb the increase in the cost of their healthcare.

They simply gave it to themselves.

And you want to know why they knew they can do that for themselves?

Because they knew that the ones who voted for them would be so busy saying "we won" that they wouldn't question why there needed to be a special consideration for members of congress and their staffers.

But hey...you won!

Good for you.

Thank you! I am vry happy that we won.

Ahhh..

But as I said....you did not win.

The people you voted for won.

And they got themselves subsidies to curb their increase in healthcare costs...at your expense.

And you didn't.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Oh, shit! That's gonna leave a mark.

Obama Pins Government Shutdown on Boehner - ABC News

Apparently, yesterday the President made it clear that Boehner is standing in the way of the vote that would allow this stalemate to end.

President Barack Obama says House Speaker John Boehner is the only thing standing in the way of reopening the federal government.

Obama is speaking at a small business just outside of Washington on the third day of the shutdown. He says Boehner is preventing a vote on a funding bill because he doesn't want to anger "extremists" in his party.

Well - he's right. ALL Boehner had to do was let the vote go to the floor, and he folded like a cheap suit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/opinion/john-boehners-shutdown.html

At any point, Mr. Boehner could have stopped it. Had he put on the floor a simple temporary spending resolution to keep the government open, without the outrageous demands to delay or defund the health reform law, it could easily have passed the House with a strong majority — including with sizable support from Republican members, many of whom are aware of how badly this collapse will damage their party.

But Mr. Boehner refused. He stood in the well of the House and repeated the tired falsehood that the Affordable Care Act was killing jobs. He came up with a series of increasingly ridiculous demands: defund the health law, delay it for a year, stop its requirement that employers pay for contraception, block the medical device tax, delay the individual mandate for a year, strip Congressional employees of their health subsidies. All were instantly rejected by the Senate. “They’ve lost their minds,” Senator Harry Reid, the majority leader, said of the House Republicans. “They keep trying to do the same thing over and over again.”

Finally, at the last minute, when there was still time to end the charade with a straightforward spending bill, Mr. Boehner made the most absurd demand of all: an immediate conference committee with the Senate. Suddenly, with less than an hour left, he wanted to set up formal negotiations?

For six months, the Senate has been demanding a conference with the House on the 2014 budget — talks that might have prevented the impasse in the first place. But the House leadership has adamantly refused, knowing it would not succeed in getting all the cuts to taxes and spending that it demands. For Mr. Boehner to call for a conference near midnight was the height of hypocrisy.

He deserves whatever befalls him.

John Boehner, between a rock and a hard place on shutdown and debt limit - The Washington Post

Boehner’s leadership team has on three occasions this year watched the Democrats effectively become the ruling party by passing key legislation that most Republicans opposed.

On New Year’s Day, the House approved a tax package that preserved lower rates for all workers except the rich, securing just 85 Republican votes, or 40 percent of Boehner’s caucus. A few weeks later, just 49 Republicans supported federal disaster aid for Mid-Atlantic states ravaged by Hurricane Sandy, and in late February, 87 Republicans supported a bill to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

Those votes left Boehner in as weak a position as any speaker in modern times. By August, he and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) were counseling their rank and file against trying to scuttle the government funding bill, which expired at midnight Monday, the end of the fiscal year. The leaders wanted to pivot to the fight on the debt ceiling, and they kept crafting options that would transfer some of that political energy from the government funding fight to the debt-limit clash.

“They got blown away,” said Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.), one of the agitators against Boehner who opposed the speaker’s reelection bid.

And I still can't bring myself to feel for the guy.

Boehner has only himself to blame.

 

[BDBoop]

Correction..

You didn't win. YThe people you voted for won.

And those people?

They decided NOT to ask you if they can give themselves subsidies to help curb the increase in the cost of their healthcare.

They simply gave it to themselves.

And you want to know why they knew they can do that for themselves?

Because they knew that the ones who voted for them would be so busy saying "we won" that they wouldn't question why there needed to be a special consideration for members of congress and their staffers.

But hey...you won!

Good for you.

Thank you! I am vry happy that we won.

Ahhh..

But as I said....you did not win.

The people you voted for won.

And they got themselves subsidies to curb their increase in healthcare costs...at your expense.

And you didn't.

We did.

 

[BDBoop]

Oh, shit! That's gonna leave a mark.

Obama Pins Government Shutdown on Boehner - ABC News

Apparently, yesterday the President made it clear that Boehner is standing in the way of the vote that would allow this stalemate to end.

President Barack Obama says House Speaker John Boehner is the only thing standing in the way of reopening the federal government.

Obama is speaking at a small business just outside of Washington on the third day of the shutdown. He says Boehner is preventing a vote on a funding bill because he doesn't want to anger "extremists" in his party.

Well - he's right. ALL Boehner had to do was let the vote go to the floor, and he folded like a cheap suit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/opinion/john-boehners-shutdown.html



He deserves whatever befalls him.

John Boehner, between a rock and a hard place on shutdown and debt limit - The Washington Post

Boehner’s leadership team has on three occasions this year watched the Democrats effectively become the ruling party by passing key legislation that most Republicans opposed.

On New Year’s Day, the House approved a tax package that preserved lower rates for all workers except the rich, securing just 85 Republican votes, or 40 percent of Boehner’s caucus. A few weeks later, just 49 Republicans supported federal disaster aid for Mid-Atlantic states ravaged by Hurricane Sandy, and in late February, 87 Republicans supported a bill to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

Those votes left Boehner in as weak a position as any speaker in modern times. By August, he and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) were counseling their rank and file against trying to scuttle the government funding bill, which expired at midnight Monday, the end of the fiscal year. The leaders wanted to pivot to the fight on the debt ceiling, and they kept crafting options that would transfer some of that political energy from the government funding fight to the debt-limit clash.

“They got blown away,” said Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.), one of the agitators against Boehner who opposed the speaker’s reelection bid.

And I still can't bring myself to feel for the guy.

Boehner has only himself to blame.

Yup. But he sure is trying hard to blame Obama.

 

[kaz]

Yup. But he sure is trying hard to blame Obama.

Boehner is blaming Obama for a government shutdown over Obamacare, which isn't being funded because it doesn't have the votes in congress for funding and Obama is saying he'll veto any bill without funding for Obamacare.

Obama is blaming Boehner.

Wow, Obama loses that one...

 

[kaz]

Boehner has only himself to blame.

Yes, the Republican Speaker of the House should be working for the interest of the Democratic party, what is he thinking?

 

[ogibillm]

Boehner has only himself to blame.

Yes, the Republican Speaker of the House should be working for the interest of the Democratic party, what is he thinking?

or you know, the country.