President Trump announces new tariffs: 25% for steel, 10% for aluminum

There is no evidence of that. Actually you are taking the liberal position. You are saying what liberals are saying.


Why is the US constantly having massive trade deficits, with nearly all of our partners?
Because we’re crazy rich and we want the rest of the world’s stuff


That's not why the EU subsidized Airbus, to the loss of thousands of very high tech, high paying jobs.


They couldn't compete, so they cheated and benefited their workers and their economies at the expense of ours.


I want those jobs back for America and Americans.


This was not the way Free Trade was supposed to work.

If I remember correctly Ryanair (one of Europe's largest airlines) ordered 100s of Boeings over the years which is US government backed

Ryanair orders 100 Boeing 737s
"For Boeing, in financial difficulties for the last quarter, 85% of the deal will be guaranteed by the US government."

These types of deals have continued for years... Ryanair runs an almost all new fleet.

Now here is the problem...

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That is Germany and it is high end steel US imports which it has trouble producing themselves.... Look where china is...

The Limits of 'Made in America' Economics

"The E.U. has sworn to fight back if the Trump White House goes ahead and is reportedly already preparing measures, such as levies on American whiskey, rum, orange juice, potatoes, and tomatoes."

This was just stupid...


That one deal does not change the fact of Airbus supports, nor the mindset that it reveals in their governments.


They are out to fuck US, and they have been doing so.


If their response to US refuses to be their bitch is to blow up world trade,

so much for them being the mature ones.


And what is the problem? I thought Trade Deficits didn't matter?


So what are they pissed off about?


Seems they think that trade surplus matter to them.

Free trade has made us one of the most prosperous countries in the world. In the 1980s the economy grew at 5%. Trade wars are not good for business or Americans. Why are you so eager to punish Americans?

Boeing is one of the largest recipients of government subsidies so they are not pure.
 
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President Trump announces new tariffs: 25% for steel, 10% for aluminum
Good, lord. So rather than putting a tariff on value-added products, finished goods, he taxes raw materials, thus ensuring that the economic impacts of the tariff flows through the entire supply chain. That's brilliant. NOT!!! It's flat-out stupid.

When a large importing country implements a tariff it will cause an increase in the price of the good on the domestic market and a decrease in the price in the rest of the world. But since Trump wants to impose the tariff on raw materials, it'll raise not only the price of steel and aluminum in the U.S., but also the price of everything made from that steel and aluminum.

As for who will bear the incidence of the tax/tariff, well, that depends on the elasticity of demand and the elasticity of supply for each given product class, and in some instances, each differentiable product.

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Hey pinhead.....China has been dumping below-cost steel and other metals on us for over a decade. Not only will it not raise prices, it will lower prices due to increased volume by American producers. All your charts and graphs prove is that you don't understand the impact of tariffs. China can't pay both shipping costs and a 25% duty on their items without raising their price above American steel and aluminum.
 
Why is the US constantly having massive trade deficits, with nearly all of our partners?
Because we’re crazy rich and we want the rest of the world’s stuff


That's not why the EU subsidized Airbus, to the loss of thousands of very high tech, high paying jobs.


They couldn't compete, so they cheated and benefited their workers and their economies at the expense of ours.


I want those jobs back for America and Americans.


This was not the way Free Trade was supposed to work.

If I remember correctly Ryanair (one of Europe's largest airlines) ordered 100s of Boeings over the years which is US government backed

Ryanair orders 100 Boeing 737s
"For Boeing, in financial difficulties for the last quarter, 85% of the deal will be guaranteed by the US government."

These types of deals have continued for years... Ryanair runs an almost all new fleet.

Now here is the problem...

View attachment 179771

That is Germany and it is high end steel US imports which it has trouble producing themselves.... Look where china is...

The Limits of 'Made in America' Economics

"The E.U. has sworn to fight back if the Trump White House goes ahead and is reportedly already preparing measures, such as levies on American whiskey, rum, orange juice, potatoes, and tomatoes."

This was just stupid...


That one deal does not change the fact of Airbus supports, nor the mindset that it reveals in their governments.


They are out to fuck US, and they have been doing so.


If their response to US refuses to be their bitch is to blow up world trade,

so much for them being the mature ones.


And what is the problem? I thought Trade Deficits didn't matter?


So what are they pissed off about?


Seems they think that trade surplus matter to them.

Free trade has made us one of the most prosperous countries in the world. In the 1980s the economy grew at 5%. Trade wars are not good for business or Americans. Why are you so eager to punish Americans?

Boeing is one of the largest recipients of government subsidies so they are not pure.
5%? Well you have no idea what you're talking about, super dupe. And he tripled the debt...
 
"The President is proposing a massive tax increase on American families. Protectionism is weak, not strong. You'd expect a policy this bad from a leftist administration, not a supposedly Republican one." - Supercilious Ben Sasse

"i don't know that President Trump should apologize to anyone for protecting American workers and certainly not to Senator Sasse" - Sarah Hogan Sanders
 
How would enforcing current law be "bigotry and neuroses?"

That's not what I said, pay attention! Is English your first language?

I am saying that the cost of doing what you suggest -- to all of us-- is not worth the only significant benefit, which is to cater to your bigotry and neuroses.
 
"Steel and aluminum tariffs are corporate welfare. They benefit the few through a tax imposed on all Americans." - Wacky Justin Amash
 
Same never trump cocksuckers still at it I see......Trump is shoring up the union vote you know what democrats did years ago when they actually cared about Americans
 
All these "principled" conservatives tout the very 'free' trade that has hollowed out our manufacturing jobs and created trade deficits with practically the entire planet. But we can buy cheaply made shit!
 
Should we allow other countries like communist China to dump steel in the U.S. killing jobs for American workers? That's what liberals in this thread are saying. If China dumping steel into the U.S. was hurting illegals the liberals would be in an uproar.

There is no evidence of that. Actually you are taking the liberal position. You are saying what liberals are saying.

I see I struck a nerve, not surprising.

I am a Reagan conservative. You sound like a Bernie Sanders liberal. I find it interesting when liberals like yourself claim to be a conservative.

You don't know what a conservative is, let me guess you watch Juan Williams every night /mocking sarcasm
 
All these "principled" conservatives tout the very 'free' trade that has hollowed out our manufacturing jobs and created trade deficits with practically the entire planet. But we can buy cheaply made shit!
84% of the jobs in manufacturing that have gone away are due to automation, not companies moving out. And given the hatred you Trumpanzees have for Musk, Tesla and Space X, you are total hypocrites.
 

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