President Trump Proposes The Biggest Civil Service Changes In 40 Years

[AvgGuyIA]

trump is the worst president I can remember. It'll take decades to repair the damage this stupid fuck is doing to America.

Hopefully the '18 elections will help slow the trump cancer until 2020 when we'll have a chance to elect someone with a fucking brain, common sense, basic sense of decency, etc..

Dems fell on the sword with DACA shutdown and will not take over the House. Trump will be President for 8 years.

 

[JQPublic1]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

 

[Harry Dresden]

they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

And that's the biggest problem. They can't just get rid of them. There is a process the supervisor has to go thru that can take months, depending on the employees responses to any disciplinary actions it can take years before an employee is actually terminated.

in my experience in the PO,many times supervision was the reason they lost the grievance or the termination hearing....they did not document the case like they needed too....

 

[Harry Dresden]

So what does yours (and Matthew's) posts have to do with the OP.....other than bash Trump & his supporters? Cause none of either of your ramblings have anything to do with government employees that do or don't do their jobs

And what does YOUR post have to do with the OP. Your only reason for posting was to bash ScienceRocks and me.

Aside from that, there's no way you could know which government employees do or don't do their jobs, either. So you're talking out of your ass.

Finally, we all have opinions and this is where we choose to express them. If you don't like it, eat shit.

Wrong.....go back & read thru the thread. I've made several comments that did address the OP......which had to do with government employees that don't do their jobs to be disciplined and/or terminated and those who do their jobs be rewarded.

I do know just a bit about government employees because I had been one for 14 years getting to work early, staying late, taking on extra projects,etc. I did my job and did it well, not to mention having to cover for another employee who couldn't bother to show up for work or even call to say they wouldn't make it. When she did come in, she was always late, left early and wouldn't even do the minimal duties assigned.

Our supervisor couldn't fire her outright, but had to document her for several months before being able to take it to the next step. Yet the employee would actually show up & do something right before that deadline and the supervisor had to start the whole process again........it took over 3 years before she was finally terminated.
So don't be telling me I'm talking out my ass. When you & ScienceRocks can only talk about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and it's all Trumps fault. Why don't you tell us all just how that compares to government employees that could lose employment protections because they can't be bothered to put in a little effort, huh? Or actually do the work they are getting paid for? Or why & the hell should they get the same rate of pay as the employees that do show up, do their own work and the work of those who don't.

what dept did you work in?....it sure wasnt done that way in the PO,if you did not show up for work and did not call in,that would result in disciplinary action,unless you had a good reason....do it repeatedly and you were gone....

 

[Harry Dresden]

So what does yours (and Matthew's) posts have to do with the OP.....other than bash Trump & his supporters? Cause none of either of your ramblings have anything to do with government employees that do or don't do their jobs

And what does YOUR post have to do with the OP. Your only reason for posting was to bash ScienceRocks and me.

Aside from that, there's no way you could know which government employees do or don't do their jobs, either. So you're talking out of your ass.

Finally, we all have opinions and this is where we choose to express them. If you don't like it, eat shit.

Wrong.....go back & read thru the thread. I've made several comments that did address the OP......which had to do with government employees that don't do their jobs to be disciplined and/or terminated and those who do their jobs be rewarded.

I do know just a bit about government employees because I had been one for 14 years getting to work early, staying late, taking on extra projects,etc. I did my job and did it well, not to mention having to cover for another employee who couldn't bother to show up for work or even call to say they wouldn't make it. When she did come in, she was always late, left early and wouldn't even do the minimal duties assigned.

Our supervisor couldn't fire her outright, but had to document her for several months before being able to take it to the next step. Yet the employee would actually show up & do something right before that deadline and the supervisor had to start the whole process again........it took over 3 years before she was finally terminated.
So don't be telling me I'm talking out my ass. When you & ScienceRocks can only talk about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and it's all Trumps fault. Why don't you tell us all just how that compares to government employees that could lose employment protections because they can't be bothered to put in a little effort, huh? Or actually do the work they are getting paid for? Or why & the hell should they get the same rate of pay as the employees that do show up, do their own work and the work of those who don't.

Yeah right.

So you were the one good government empoyee who "did my job and did it well..."

trump supporters strike again.

speaking for the PO carrier side,there are lots of good workers and there are a percentage of half-assed workers who just cant seem to do the job without someone helping them get their route done,just about everyday.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

 

[JQPublic1]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

 

[Harry Dresden]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

 

[JQPublic1]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

 

[Syriusly]

"Hire the best and fire the worst."s

Then why is he hiring 'the worst'

Trump's administration has been famous so far for hiring/appointing inexperienced and unqualified persons to run Federal agencies.

 

[Harry Dresden]

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

i carried mail 33 years.....you?....

 

[JQPublic1]

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

i carried mail 33 years.....you?....

MDO retired after 20 yrs.

 

[Harry Dresden]

it is still a govt owned entity that wastes a lot of money....

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

i carried mail 33 years.....you?....

MDO retired after 20 yrs.

military defense office?.......

 

[longknife]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

 

[JQPublic1]

How does the post office waste money? Besides they generate their own money so who cares?

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

i carried mail 33 years.....you?....

MDO retired after 20 yrs.

military defense office?.......

If you don't know what an MDO is you never worked for the Post Office.

 

[HenryBHough]

"Hire the best and fire the worst."

If only we could also do that with Presidents.

Would have saved us three Carter and seven Obama years - if they got a 1-year free trial.

 

[JQPublic1]

You can't hire the best unless you pay them the best.

And as anyone who has ever worked in government knows, the government certainly doesn't pay the best salaries for the best people.

they do in the post office....but they dont get rid of the shitty workers....

But the post office doesn't use one dime of taxpayer's money to pay employees or to cover operational expenses. It is self sufficient.

Post office makes a profit Congress won’t let it keep – Postal Employee Network

 

[my2¢]

"Hire the best and fire the worst."

If only we could also do that with Presidents.

Would have saved us three Carter and seven Obama years - if they got a 1-year free trial.

Being a fiscal conservative I didn't mind Jimmy too much. Obama was far too lenient with extending folks ability to live off the government dime. Trump? I've not reached a decision on yet. Not convinced he's a leader others will follow, definitely think he'd make for a better king than a president. Plus I sure wish he use his venom more against the bureaucracy and the lack of its oversight than against the media and those not even worth bothering about.

 

[Harry Dresden]

who cares?.....well then i guess i dont need to tell you...

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

i carried mail 33 years.....you?....

MDO retired after 20 yrs.

military defense office?.......

If you don't know what an MDO is you never worked for the Post Office.

i carried mail in anaheim ca from 1979 to 2013....member of the NALC branch 1100...if you were management yea i may not know your little abbreviation,you fuckers all sucked,and if you dont think the PO wasted many a dollar then you may not have worked there yourself,because they wasted plenty of money...

 

[JQPublic1]

You don't know anything about the post office...except it provides good service.

i carried mail 33 years.....you?....

MDO retired after 20 yrs.

military defense office?.......

If you don't know what an MDO is you never worked for the Post Office.

i carried mail in anaheim ca from 1979 to 2013....member of the NALC branch 1100...if you were management yea i may not know your little abbreviation,you fuckers all sucked,and if you dont think the PO wasted many a dollar then you may not have worked there yourself,because they wasted plenty of money...

The money wasn't wasted on personnel. Automation updates and new technology took the lionshare of the annual budget. But I do agree that the big annual bonuses we managers got were not always warranted.