Prison walls are 20 or 30 foot tall. Elite estates have 10 to 15 foot walls.

[beagle9]

But walls to protect America are unacceptable. WHY?

Do you have a fence around your property?
Do you have a front door you keep closed or God forbid locked?
Do you lock your car doors?
Would you allow your TEENAGE DAUGHTER go for jogs at night?

IF YOU OPPOSE THE WALL DO YOU HAVE A FUCKING BRAIN?

Why I oppose the wall:

As you saw from the 2018 election the left gained the House which mean they control the purse strings for funding.

Now you will proclaim " who gives a fuck " but alas let me explain...

You build the wall and it just does not cost to build it but maintain it for as long as it stands.

Now had the GOP gotten the fund passed through the Senate to Trump desk to sign the reality is the funding to maintain the wall would be cut when Democrats obtain power.

For me it is a waste of money that can be used in other areas.

Now how to stop illegals from coming in?

Simple, dry up their resources here and make it impossible for them to earn a living.

What do I mean?

Fine employers and close them down if they hire illegals.

Deport only once and the second time send the illegals and their family ( if here ) to Syria.

Enforce our laws for once that we have and punish Sanctuary States and Cities with jailing Politicians that harbor illegals.

It would work better.

Also use our Technology we have with drones and other technologies that will monitor illegal activity at our border.

Also implant a chip in the Illegals so you will know when they are here.

I am not kidding about any of my suggestions and they will work more better than some wall the left will defund the maintenance of.

How about just implementing a code word to pass ?


ROTFLMBO.

 

[Toro]

Our new neighborhood is gated.

We open it up during the day so the Mexicans can build our houses.

Then they go away.

 

[leftwinger]

Ask Israel about the wall....works for them.

They have been invaded by an Army
We have been invaded by people wanting to cut our lawns

Cut our lawns, milk our cows, rape and kill our girls, and shoot our cops on the side.

Many Illegals are on the run from Police down there. If they get here they don’t suddenly find Jesus. There is freedom here. They run even more wild. Dealing, killing, stealing, raping, DUI etc.

When Americans are on the run from Police, they try to get out of the Country too but not at the rate of 1000s’ per day. Mexico will kill them. Canada will Police them.

DJT was right, they don’t send the best and brightest.

 

[danielpalos]

Ask Israel about the wall....works for them.

They have been invaded by an Army
We have been invaded by people wanting to cut our lawns

Cut our lawns, milk our cows, rape and kill our girls, and shoot our cops on the side.

Many Illegals are on the run from Police down there. If they get here they don’t suddenly find Jesus. There is freedom here. They run even more wild. Dealing, killing, stealing, raping, DUI etc.

When Americans are on the run from Police, they try to get out of the Country too but not at the rate of 1000s’ per day. Mexico will kill them. Canada will Police them.

DJT was right, they don’t send the best and brightest.

why are we exporting our drug war?

 

[leftwinger]

Why don't people who want to come to America just stand in line and apply for LEGAL entry like anyone else? These countries, according to libs, are sending us their very best. This would give America a chance to verify that, by vetting the immigrants in advance.

As far as a wall- the idea is to make it harder to get in- not "impossible". There has never been an unbreachable fortification and never will be. But a simple 700 high wall on the border would make it very difficult for Illegals to make it through.

But you can dig under the wall. While you are at it. Make a wall 30 feet deep too.
So you have 30 feet high X 30 feet deep.

Simple, dig a canal and flood it... Try and dig under it then.

Cost to build wall at current estimate is about $25 billions. 30 feet tall & 6 feet deep. If you add a canal means......

1. You have to make the wall deeper far more than 6 feet deep.

2. Making a canal that long and deep is an enormous task and cost by itself.

3. Plus a water system ( aqueduct) so it will not dried up. Where is the water system coming from?

So the $25 billions becomes what? $30 $35 $40 billions??

Petulant Trump having a very hard time getting $5 billions after 2 years. Let alone going way over $30 billions???

Don’t worry bud...... they will not build a canal for your wall.

Also to build something like a wall or a bridge that is purposely to go on a water. Are entirely different kind of construction and materials.

You and I can build a wall. But you and I cannot build a wall that are designed to submerge to a water.

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

Not enough water. Rio grande is dry many places much of the year? Water is precious in desert......

 

[Olde Europe]

So, the perennially frightened imperial subjects, otherwise known pridefully to boast about how many want to come, are out in force today (as every day) musing about walling the country in, facing a few thousand destitute refugees a month. Spluttering apoplexy ensues, and stern demands issued to implement a Middle Age solution to a 21st century problem. Let there be a reminder that the wall in question is just a Trumpian campaign ploy, offering the Trumpletons a costly illusion of security, and on the taxpayers' dime.

Next: All beaches up and down the coast be furnished with a 50 foot wall. It's going to be beautiful.

 

[leftwinger]

Why don't people who want to come to America just stand in line and apply for LEGAL entry like anyone else? These countries, according to libs, are sending us their very best. This would give America a chance to verify that, by vetting the immigrants in advance.

As far as a wall- the idea is to make it harder to get in- not "impossible". There has never been an unbreachable fortification and never will be. But a simple 700 high wall on the border would make it very difficult for Illegals to make it through.

But you can dig under the wall. While you are at it. Make a wall 30 feet deep too.
So you have 30 feet high X 30 feet deep.

Simple, dig a canal and flood it... Try and dig under it then.

Cost to build wall at current estimate is about $25 billions. 30 feet tall & 6 feet deep. If you add a canal means......

1. You have to make the wall deeper far more than 6 feet deep.

2. Making a canal that long and deep is an enormous task and cost by itself.

3. Plus a water system ( aqueduct) so it will not dried up. Where is the water system coming from?

So the $25 billions becomes what? $30 $35 $40 billions??

Petulant Trump having a very hard time getting $5 billions after 2 years. Let alone going way over $30 billions???

Don’t worry bud...... they will not build a canal for your wall.

Also to build something like a wall or a bridge that is purposely to go on a water. Are entirely different kind of construction and materials.

You and I can build a wall. But you and I cannot build a wall that are designed to submerge to a water.

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

The Panama Canal is a series of locks to adjust water levels across. Very costly.


Water would have to be brought in on canals. Already happening for those living there, from 1000s’ if miles away. They charge you to use it.

 

[beagle9]

Ask Israel about the wall....works for them.

They have been invaded by an Army
We have been invaded by people wanting to cut our lawns

Cut our lawns, milk our cows, rape and kill our girls, and shoot our cops on the side.

Many Illegals are on the run from Police down there. If they get here they don’t suddenly find Jesus. There is freedom here. They run even more wild. Dealing, killing, stealing, raping, DUI etc.

When Americans are on the run from Police, they try to get out of the Country too but not at the rate of 1000s’ per day. Mexico will kill them. Canada will Police them.

DJT was right, they don’t send the best and brightest.

Yes, there should be standards adhered to here, and being here should be looked at as a priveledge and not a right for anyone to just come here to abuse.

 

[beagle9]

Why don't people who want to come to America just stand in line and apply for LEGAL entry like anyone else? These countries, according to libs, are sending us their very best. This would give America a chance to verify that, by vetting the immigrants in advance.

As far as a wall- the idea is to make it harder to get in- not "impossible". There has never been an unbreachable fortification and never will be. But a simple 700 high wall on the border would make it very difficult for Illegals to make it through.

But you can dig under the wall. While you are at it. Make a wall 30 feet deep too.
So you have 30 feet high X 30 feet deep.

Simple, dig a canal and flood it... Try and dig under it then.

Cost to build wall at current estimate is about $25 billions. 30 feet tall & 6 feet deep. If you add a canal means......

1. You have to make the wall deeper far more than 6 feet deep.

2. Making a canal that long and deep is an enormous task and cost by itself.

3. Plus a water system ( aqueduct) so it will not dried up. Where is the water system coming from?

So the $25 billions becomes what? $30 $35 $40 billions??

Petulant Trump having a very hard time getting $5 billions after 2 years. Let alone going way over $30 billions???

Don’t worry bud...... they will not build a canal for your wall.

Also to build something like a wall or a bridge that is purposely to go on a water. Are entirely different kind of construction and materials.

You and I can build a wall. But you and I cannot build a wall that are designed to submerge to a water.

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

Not enough water. Rio grande is dry many places much of the year? Water is precious in desert......

Sounds like the area needs more reservoirs.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Walls are so great....

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The communists loved them.

They were designed to keep people in, like walls in a prison. They were not designed to keep people out like the fence around the White House.

Or the fence around your house or the fence around all politicians homes in their gated communities or the fences around schools having a duel purpose or any fence or wall having a duel purpose for that matter.

The word is "dual". unless you are defending your honor by killing someone.

 

[Olde Europe]

Yes, there should be standards adhered to here, and being here should be looked at as a priveledge and not a right for anyone to just come here to abuse.

Watching you post makes me hope for English being declared the nation's language, along with mandatory English lessons for everyone.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

But you can dig under the wall. While you are at it. Make a wall 30 feet deep too.
So you have 30 feet high X 30 feet deep.

Simple, dig a canal and flood it... Try and dig under it then.

Cost to build wall at current estimate is about $25 billions. 30 feet tall & 6 feet deep. If you add a canal means......

1. You have to make the wall deeper far more than 6 feet deep.

2. Making a canal that long and deep is an enormous task and cost by itself.

3. Plus a water system ( aqueduct) so it will not dried up. Where is the water system coming from?

So the $25 billions becomes what? $30 $35 $40 billions??

Petulant Trump having a very hard time getting $5 billions after 2 years. Let alone going way over $30 billions???

Don’t worry bud...... they will not build a canal for your wall.

Also to build something like a wall or a bridge that is purposely to go on a water. Are entirely different kind of construction and materials.

You and I can build a wall. But you and I cannot build a wall that are designed to submerge to a water.

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

How do you keep the water in a canal that runs down the side of a mountain? Please tell me you have never built anything!

Ever heard of dams or reservoirs being built in strategic locations in order to make sure water stays abundant in a canal, lake or resource area to be used or maintained ?? Some areas won't need a canal or such, because the natural conditions of the area are sufficient in aiding in the restraint needed within the area's.

You obviously have never been to the southwestern US, not have any idea how silly that plan is. A wall is expensive. Your idea is impossible without expending half of our federal budget and changing the entire landscape of thousands of square miles. It makes no sense.

 

[beagle9]

So, the perennially frightened imperial subjects, otherwise known pridefully to boast about how many want to come, are out in force today (as every day) musing about walling the country in, facing a few thousand destitute refugees a month. Spluttering apoplexy ensues, and stern demands issued to implement a Middle Age solution to a 21st century problem. Let there be a reminder that the wall in question is just a Trumpian campaign ploy, offering the Trumpletons a costly illusion of security, and on the taxpayers' dime.

Next: All beaches up and down the coast be furnished with a 50 foot wall. It's going to be beautiful.

Maybe you are the simpleton in thinking that the wall is some sort of ill concieved notion born out of racism or disdain for ones fellow human beings. For this to be the case, one would have to totally ignore the past problems experienced by unvetted crossings, human trafficking, drug smuggling, and the deaths of our citizens here at the hands of illegals that might be protected now in these sanctuary cities for political purposes, and all in order to boast a politicians ratings because he or she is LOOKING compassionate in the eyes of the ignorant voter willing to ignore reality ?

 

[beagle9]

Simple, dig a canal and flood it... Try and dig under it then.

Cost to build wall at current estimate is about $25 billions. 30 feet tall & 6 feet deep. If you add a canal means......

1. You have to make the wall deeper far more than 6 feet deep.

2. Making a canal that long and deep is an enormous task and cost by itself.

3. Plus a water system ( aqueduct) so it will not dried up. Where is the water system coming from?

So the $25 billions becomes what? $30 $35 $40 billions??

Petulant Trump having a very hard time getting $5 billions after 2 years. Let alone going way over $30 billions???

Don’t worry bud...... they will not build a canal for your wall.

Also to build something like a wall or a bridge that is purposely to go on a water. Are entirely different kind of construction and materials.

You and I can build a wall. But you and I cannot build a wall that are designed to submerge to a water.

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

How do you keep the water in a canal that runs down the side of a mountain? Please tell me you have never built anything!

Ever heard of dams or reservoirs being built in strategic locations in order to make sure water stays abundant in a canal, lake or resource area to be used or maintained ?? Some areas won't need a canal or such, because the natural conditions of the area are sufficient in aiding in the restraint needed within the area's.

You obviously have never been to the southwestern US, not have any idea how silly that plan is. A wall is expensive. Your idea is impossible without expending half of our federal budget and changing the entire landscape of thousands of square miles. It makes no sense.

Just making noise here, so do you care to come up with a concrete plan that most if not all can grasp or are you just another Trump basher no matter what the efforts are to fix things for the American people?

 

[beagle9]

Yes, there should be standards adhered to here, and being here should be looked at as a priveledge and not a right for anyone to just come here to abuse.

Watching you post makes me hope for English being declared the nation's language, along with mandatory English lessons for everyone.

Here goes the nit picking of mispelled words again. LOL. Just comprehend the postings unless you are completely ignorant.

 

[dblack]

Maybe you are the simpleton in thinking that the wall is some sort of ill concieved notion born out of racism or disdain for ones fellow human beings.

I'd say more fear and ignorance.

For this to be the case, one would have to totally ignore the past problems experienced by unvetted crossings, human trafficking, drug smuggling, and the deaths of our citizens here at the hands of illegals that might be protected now in these sanctuary cities for political purposes, and all in order to boast a politicians ratings because he or she is LOOKING compassionate in the eyes of the ignorant voter willing to ignore reality ?

You don't have to ignore any problems. All you have to do is think it through and realize that a big dumb wall isn't a viable solution to those problems. It's a coward's sledge hammer.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cost to build wall at current estimate is about $25 billions. 30 feet tall & 6 feet deep. If you add a canal means......

1. You have to make the wall deeper far more than 6 feet deep.

2. Making a canal that long and deep is an enormous task and cost by itself.

3. Plus a water system ( aqueduct) so it will not dried up. Where is the water system coming from?

So the $25 billions becomes what? $30 $35 $40 billions??

Petulant Trump having a very hard time getting $5 billions after 2 years. Let alone going way over $30 billions???

Don’t worry bud...... they will not build a canal for your wall.

Also to build something like a wall or a bridge that is purposely to go on a water. Are entirely different kind of construction and materials.

You and I can build a wall. But you and I cannot build a wall that are designed to submerge to a water.

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

How do you keep the water in a canal that runs down the side of a mountain? Please tell me you have never built anything!

Ever heard of dams or reservoirs being built in strategic locations in order to make sure water stays abundant in a canal, lake or resource area to be used or maintained ?? Some areas won't need a canal or such, because the natural conditions of the area are sufficient in aiding in the restraint needed within the area's.

You obviously have never been to the southwestern US, not have any idea how silly that plan is. A wall is expensive. Your idea is impossible without expending half of our federal budget and changing the entire landscape of thousands of square miles. It makes no sense.

Just making noise here, so do you care to come up with a concrete plan that most if not all can grasp or are you just another Trump basher no matter what the efforts are to fix things for the American people?

The plan is already in place! Did you sleep through the past two years. Try reading my posts. I am critical of your idea of a canal because you haven't put one ounce of thought into it, because it sounds like something a teenager would come up with on a test for which he never studied. Stop lashing out because someone tells you your idea sucks!

 

[beagle9]

Maybe you are the simpleton in thinking that the wall is some sort of ill concieved notion born out of racism or disdain for ones fellow human beings.

I'd say more fear and ignorance.

For this to be the case, one would have to totally ignore the past problems experienced by unvetted crossings, human trafficking, drug smuggling, and the deaths of our citizens here at the hands of illegals that might be protected now in these sanctuary cities for political purposes, and all in order to boast a politicians ratings because he or she is LOOKING compassionate in the eyes of the ignorant voter willing to ignore reality ?

You don't have to ignore any problems. All you have to do is think it through and realize that a big dumb wall isn't a viable solution to those problems. It's a coward's sledge hammer.

When dealing with dumbo-crats, sometimes a sledgehammer is the only answer.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Maybe you are the simpleton in thinking that the wall is some sort of ill concieved notion born out of racism or disdain for ones fellow human beings.

I'd say more fear and ignorance.

For this to be the case, one would have to totally ignore the past problems experienced by unvetted crossings, human trafficking, drug smuggling, and the deaths of our citizens here at the hands of illegals that might be protected now in these sanctuary cities for political purposes, and all in order to boast a politicians ratings because he or she is LOOKING compassionate in the eyes of the ignorant voter willing to ignore reality ?

You don't have to ignore any problems. All you have to do is think it through and realize that a big dumb wall isn't a viable solution to those problems. It's a coward's sledge hammer.

A big dumb wall? We are not talking about the barrier between the functioning part of your brain and that massive chunk of concrete you carry around in there. The wall will work and that terrifies you, doesn't it?

 

[beagle9]

Everything ain't gonna cost as much as you think it will. That's just fear mongering and you know it. Who are the best construction workers in the world ?? The Mexicans might figure that they are, so why not employ their labor to build the wall / canal ??? Aren't they extremely poor, and aren't they in need of employment to help their situation out in life ?? Well there's the wall/canal project...

The border towns on the Mexican side would welcome the project with open arms. They would realize the economic value of such a project immediately. Being close by they would stand to make huge money off of the project if allowed to participate.

The canal wouldn't run beneath the wall, but rather it would run along beside it with it's own dirt banks and dirt bottom. The rivers would supply the water to the canal. Tunnel digging would be over if the canal would flood the tunnels if attempted, otherwise if those tunnels are dug under the wall they would flood. I garantee you that it can be figured out with the help of the Mexican and American Laborers to get the job done over time. American engineering is hopefully still the top builders in the world if globalization hadn't destroyed it yet.

How do you keep the water in a canal that runs down the side of a mountain? Please tell me you have never built anything!

Ever heard of dams or reservoirs being built in strategic locations in order to make sure water stays abundant in a canal, lake or resource area to be used or maintained ?? Some areas won't need a canal or such, because the natural conditions of the area are sufficient in aiding in the restraint needed within the area's.

You obviously have never been to the southwestern US, not have any idea how silly that plan is. A wall is expensive. Your idea is impossible without expending half of our federal budget and changing the entire landscape of thousands of square miles. It makes no sense.

Just making noise here, so do you care to come up with a concrete plan that most if not all can grasp or are you just another Trump basher no matter what the efforts are to fix things for the American people?

The plan is already in place! Did you sleep through the past two years. Try reading my posts. I am critical of your idea of a canal because you haven't put one ounce of thought into it, because it sounds like something a teenager would come up with on a test for which he never studied. Stop lashing out because someone tells you your idea sucks!

Stop sleeping yourself, because if you would have paid attention my canal idea was born out of being facetious. LOL.