Progress: A Hundred Years

[francoHFW]

a. Obama, on the Constitution: "I am constrained as they are constrained by the system that our founders put in place."
Obama: Constitution 'Constrains' Me - Ben Shapiro - Page full

b. And, it seems that this constitutional law instructor has decided on how he will handle the problem of the Constitution:
"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want."
Obama: 'I Can Do Whatever I Want' | The Weekly Standard

Hilarious...of course Obama is constrained by it- that's the point of it, feqhead.

He was referring to walking where he wanted to, with Hollande. RW idiocy from the Standard bs rag.

 

[Dutch]

I strongly urge you, in the most vehement terms possible, to read Wilson's speech in its full context so that you may see just how unmitigatingly idiotic your conclusion about what he meant is.

Funny you're asking her to read the speech in context, but aren't quoting it in context for a proper demonstration of your point. Go figure.

I just did.

Go figure. Let me know if you don't understand some of the words.

Aww leave Templar alone. He follows PC around like a puppy. It's the closest he gets to a real actual woman.

 

[Plasmaball]

Funny you're asking her to read the speech in context, but aren't quoting it in context for a proper demonstration of your point. Go figure.

I just did.

Go figure. Let me know if you don't understand some of the words.

Right after I told you to. Go figure, mon ami!

this is some weak admitting to failing.

 

[Plasmaball]

its funny, 100 years ago PC couldnt vote.

 

[PoliticalChic]

its funny, 100 years ago PC couldnt vote.

Luckily, Republicans changed that.


Bet you didn't know that is was the Republicans that produced that result.


I'd add it to the list of things you didn't know.....but there's no room.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Funny you're asking her to read the speech in context, but aren't quoting it in context for a proper demonstration of your point. Go figure.

I just did.

Go figure. Let me know if you don't understand some of the words.

Aww leave Templar alone. He follows PC around like a puppy. It's the closest he gets to a real actual woman.

Now, now......stop sulking, Dust.


I'm really easy to get along with once you learn to worship me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wilson's message was that platitudes about freedom and liberty are worth a hill of beans if not actually backed up in law and protected. He was mocking those who pay lip service to these principles.

Kind of like rubes who wear flag pins and make a lot of noise about freedom and the Constitution but who are completely unfamiliar with either.

I sure am glad you change that avi from the grotesque......

....now if you could only stop being a moron.

No,huh....



Well....see if this helps:


1. From his early years as a professor of political science, President-to-be Woodrow Wilson dismissed the American Founders’ dedication to natural rights and limited government


2. ...significant not for its advocacy of socialism but rather for Wilson’s radical belief that democracy, including American democracy, has no inherent regard for individual rights, whether natural or political, and therefore contains no principled limits on government power over individuals.

3. For Wilson, “omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory.” Assuming that “no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will,” he proceeds to develop a Progressive political science that takes from socialism “that all idea of a limitation of public authority by individual rights be put out of view.”
Woodrow Wilson on Socialism and Democracy




So, what have you learned?


Rule #1....never doubt me.


Rule #2.....see rule #1.

 

[PoliticalChic]

a. Obama, on the Constitution: "I am constrained as they are constrained by the system that our founders put in place."
Obama: Constitution 'Constrains' Me - Ben Shapiro - Page full

b. And, it seems that this constitutional law instructor has decided on how he will handle the problem of the Constitution:
"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want."
Obama: 'I Can Do Whatever I Want' | The Weekly Standard

Hilarious...of course Obama is constrained by it- that's the point of it, feqhead.

He was referring to walking where he wanted to, with Hollande. RW idiocy from the Standard bs rag.

(Pssssttt......it's the juxtaposition of a. and b. that is the point.)

 

[Freewill]

Turn off FOX News and read the USAPATRIOT Act, then say that Republicans respect the US Constitution.

Quit getting your talking points from the dailykos and realize that Bush left 6 years ago, it is all Obama now.

Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama

Congress bumped up against the deadline mainly because of the stubborn resistance from a single senator, Republican freshman Rand Paul of Kentucky, who saw the terrorist-hunting powers as an abuse of privacy rights. Paul held up the final vote for several days while he demanded a chance to change the bill to diminish the government's ability to monitor individual actions.

Hmmm Rand Paul should be a hero to all Americans.

 

[Wildman]

Turn off FOX News and read the USAPATRIOT Act, then say that Republicans respect the US Constitution.

being as you are one of more intelligent posters here would you please tell us Conservative posters where we can get better news than from FoxNews.com ....................................., i am impatiently waiting.

 

[Wildman]

How many of you are old enough to remember the good old days of conservatism,

when someone like Harry Reid was attacked relentlessly for saying

'we killed the Patriot Act'.

...it was 2005 - the conservative chameleon doesn't need long to change colors.

"the good old days of conservatism".., you mean like the days of old when i went to the general store with my Uncle and bought .22 ammo for my single shot .22 rifle that my Aunt gave me when i was 12 y.o. ? the same "good old days" with out a NICS check, filling out a 4 page form to buy a gun ?

where has all your anti-gun laws stopped a criminal/thug from performing his vile act ?????

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Progressive is just a polite way of saying fascist. Behind all progressive ideology is the idea that man is weak and stupid and needs to be enslaved, all for his own good

 

[ClosedCaption]

did you notice what he was quoting/responding to or what?

Yes whats your point? I bet there isnt one

Guess I have to speak slow and retarded to a liberal to get my point across. Nah not going to bother

Exactly what I thought

 

[KNB]

Progressive is just a polite way of saying fascist. Behind all progressive ideology is the idea that man is weak and stupid and needs to be enslaved, all for his own good

And only the Southern Red Republican Confederate Conservative Slave States can save us, right?

Why do Conservatives compare Fascists to Progressives? Progressives gave women and minorities the right to vote. That's not Fascism. Progressives got children out of factories and coal mines and into public schools. That's not Fascism. Where do you see Fascism in Progressive values?

The US Constitution is based on Progressive values- "all Men (meaning men and women, i.e., "humans") are created equal." That's not Fascism. Fascism is not adhering to those words and owning slaves for another hundred years. We had to fight a civil war to uphold the very soul of our Nation. We couldn't call ourselves the Land of the Free if we owned slaves. Slavery isn't Freedom. Southern Red Conservative Republican Dixiecrat slave states lost the civil war trying to defend their freedom to own slaves. That stupid mentality still hasn't died yet.

You Conservatives don't know what freedom is. Record corporate profits are not indicative of "freedom" when the rest of society is struggling on food stamps. You're just wrong about everything and you keep forcing your stupid shit on the rest of us. Teabaggers and FOX-News viewers are consistently the least informed and most misinformed of all American demographics. People who don't watch television at all know more about what is going on in the world than people who watch FOX.

Please stop trying, Conservatives. You're just wrong about everything. Society progresses with time. Nothing stays the same. Stop trying to hold on to the "good ol' days" that never actually existed. You are holding America back.

 

[Plasmaball]

its funny, 100 years ago PC couldnt vote.

Luckily, Republicans changed that.


Bet you didn't know that is was the Republicans that produced that result.


I'd add it to the list of things you didn't know.....but there's no room.

doesn't matter who changed it. the fact remains it was a progressive move. This my team did this and my team did that is a poison on this nation.

 

[Clementine]

1. Woodrow Wilson, our first Progressive President, made no secret of his desires to 'fundamentally change America.'

2. First of all, there is that pesky Constitution:
"Justly revered as our great Constitution is, it could be stripped off and thrown aside like a garment, and the nation would still stand forth in the living vestment of flesh and sinew, warm with the heart-blood of one people, ready to recreate constitutions and laws. … Woodrow Wilson [Woodrow Wilson
"The Modern Democratic State" (1885; first published in 1966)
The Papers of Woodrow Wilson, Volume 5]

3. Then, there is his major objection, separation of powers.
He rejected the principles of “separation of powers” and “checks and balances” that are the foundation of American government: “Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand….”

4. In his 1890 essay, “Leaders of Men,” Wilson explained “No doubt a lot of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle,” wrote Wilson, attacking the very individual rights that have made America great.
Progressives love the people, hate the person.





5. One often hears that Liberals and Progressives yearn for the US government to be more like that of Western European nations. Here's why:

In May of 1953, with the Labor Party in power in England, and Clement Atlee, Prime Minister, and while addressing the House of Commons, attacked the United Stated Constitution. (He was quickly denounced by Senator McCarthy,) Atlee claimed the Constitution was "framed for an isolationist state," and that he had contempt for the separation of powers, and insinuated that President Eisenhower could not speak with authority, because of the constitutional prerogatives of the US Senate. "One sometimes wonders who is more powerful, the President
or Senator McCarthy," Attlee remarked."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 25




6. Let's see what the last century has given us:

a. Obama, on the Constitution: "I am constrained as they are constrained by the system that our founders put in place."
Obama: Constitution 'Constrains' Me - Ben Shapiro - Page full

b. And, it seems that this constitutional law instructor has decided on how he will handle the problem of the Constitution:
"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want."
Obama: 'I Can Do Whatever I Want' | The Weekly Standard





7. "...Jonathan Turley, a liberal law professor at George Washington University and supporter of the Affordable Care Act, to tell the House Judiciary Committee at a Dec. 3 hearing, titled "The President's Constitutional Duty to Faithfully Execute the Laws," that Obama's abuse of executive power has grown to the point that "he's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid."
Doug Ross @ Journal: Obama is the President the Constitution Was Designed to Prevent




So....where are the Liberal voices raised against this tyrant???

Woodrow Wilson has always gotten my vote for worst and most dangerous president ever. He didn't just talk like a radical, he acted on his beliefs. Signing off on legislation written by the banks and creating the Federal Reserve was a move even he regretted in time. Making income tax permanent was another stupid progressive move.

They call themselves progressives now, indicating they want to move forward. In reality, they want to take us backward to failed policies that ruined other countries.

 

[Contumacious]

WW- A GREAT PRESIDENT WHO ENDED THE HORRIBLE GILDED AGE WITH THE INCOME TAX AND pUB PANICS WITH THE FED...OF COURSE GREEDY pUBS FOUND CORRUPT AND IDIOTiC WAYS TO START THE gREAT depression anyway lol...
.

The parasites loves misery , and misery loves company

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Woodrow Wilson, our first Progressive President, made no secret of his desires to 'fundamentally change America.'

2. First of all, there is that pesky Constitution:
"Justly revered as our great Constitution is, it could be stripped off and thrown aside like a garment, and the nation would still stand forth in the living vestment of flesh and sinew, warm with the heart-blood of one people, ready to recreate constitutions and laws. … Woodrow Wilson [Woodrow Wilson
"The Modern Democratic State" (1885; first published in 1966)
The Papers of Woodrow Wilson, Volume 5]

3. Then, there is his major objection, separation of powers.
He rejected the principles of “separation of powers” and “checks and balances” that are the foundation of American government: “Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand….”

4. In his 1890 essay, “Leaders of Men,” Wilson explained “No doubt a lot of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle,” wrote Wilson, attacking the very individual rights that have made America great.
Progressives love the people, hate the person.





5. One often hears that Liberals and Progressives yearn for the US government to be more like that of Western European nations. Here's why:

In May of 1953, with the Labor Party in power in England, and Clement Atlee, Prime Minister, and while addressing the House of Commons, attacked the United Stated Constitution. (He was quickly denounced by Senator McCarthy,) Atlee claimed the Constitution was "framed for an isolationist state," and that he had contempt for the separation of powers, and insinuated that President Eisenhower could not speak with authority, because of the constitutional prerogatives of the US Senate. "One sometimes wonders who is more powerful, the President
or Senator McCarthy," Attlee remarked."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 25




6. Let's see what the last century has given us:

a. Obama, on the Constitution: "I am constrained as they are constrained by the system that our founders put in place."
Obama: Constitution 'Constrains' Me - Ben Shapiro - Page full

b. And, it seems that this constitutional law instructor has decided on how he will handle the problem of the Constitution:
"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want."
Obama: 'I Can Do Whatever I Want' | The Weekly Standard





7. "...Jonathan Turley, a liberal law professor at George Washington University and supporter of the Affordable Care Act, to tell the House Judiciary Committee at a Dec. 3 hearing, titled "The President's Constitutional Duty to Faithfully Execute the Laws," that Obama's abuse of executive power has grown to the point that "he's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid."
Doug Ross @ Journal: Obama is the President the Constitution Was Designed to Prevent




So....where are the Liberal voices raised against this tyrant???

Woodrow Wilson has always gotten my vote for worst and most dangerous president ever. He didn't just talk like a radical, he acted on his beliefs. Signing off on legislation written by the banks and creating the Federal Reserve was a move even he regretted in time. Making income tax permanent was another stupid progressive move.

They call themselves progressives now, indicating they want to move forward. In reality, they want to take us backward to failed policies that ruined other countries.

"Woodrow Wilson has always gotten my vote for worst and most dangerous president ever."

You might be able to convince me....but don't leave this guy out of the mix:



1. Madison wrote, in Federalist #47, " No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty, than that on which the objection is founded. The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." The Federalist #47

2. Therein lies Franklin Roosevelt In 1937, he tried to pact the judiciary, and in 1938 attempted to purge Democrat Senators who defeated the scheme.


3. In July 5, 1935, in a letter to Representative Samuel B. Hill of Washington, the President manifested his contempt for the Constitution. Hill was chairman of the subcommittee studying the Guffey-Vinson bill to regulate the coal industry: the purpose of the legislation was to re-establish, for the coal industry, the NRA code system which the Supreme Court had unanimously declared unconstitutional. Roosevelt wrote: "I hope your committee will not permit doubts as to constitutionality, however reasonable, to block the legislation."

This was the same Roosevelt who had sworn an oath on his 300 year old family Bible, to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 65.



As per the OP, do you see the same anti-constitutionality in Obama?

 

[PoliticalChic]

its funny, 100 years ago PC couldnt vote.

Luckily, Republicans changed that.


Bet you didn't know that is was the Republicans that produced that result.


I'd add it to the list of things you didn't know.....but there's no room.

doesn't matter who changed it. the fact remains it was a progressive move. This my team did this and my team did that is a poison on this nation.

I'll take that post as meaning that you have learned your lesson.

 

[g5000]

Nice edit too. You took out some of that "quote in context" just now.

It was overlapping text, idiot.