Progressive Government Fails

[NYcarbineer]

If progressive government had failed, the author of this thread wouldn't have the right to vote.

 

[Neotrotsky]

You mean as long as they weren't from one of the racial groups targeted for sterilization by progressive policies?



.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Progressive Government Fails

what a surprise

 

[jon_berzerk]

Progressive Government Fails

what a surprise

they will never see it

progressives are not capable to understand

that many Americans

want to choose what is bet for their lives

the concept just escapes them

 

[Neotrotsky]

Indeed

they want people to be comfortable with a group of elites
choosing for them

what could go wrong ?

 

[Derideo_Te]

I understand why you're trying to obfuscate.....


But I'm not going to allow you to....


The Republicans were never referred to, treated like, nor embraced as in:

a. Susan Sarandon: ”He is a community organizer like Jesus was, and now we’re a community and he can organize us.” The Hill, January 21, 2009

b. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
Source: Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.

c. . In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimicking the cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).

d. The White House released a photo of Obama with a halo around his head:
Photostream: Business and Pleasure in August | The White House

e. "In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."

- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas

f. “He was a savior, black Jesus,” the actor-director[Spike Lee] told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing inits entirety Saturday. “Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”
Spike Lee: Barack Obama is 'not perfect' - POLITICO.com

g. "We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra."

-- Chicago] Sun-Times

h. "He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."

-- Gary Hart

i. "We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."

-- Oprah Winfrey




Now:
"By a 41 percent-to-21 percent margin, respondents say they have a less favorable impression of President Obama after the shutdown rather than a more favorable one."
NBC/WSJ poll: Obama approval sinks to new low - First Read


By two to one they see him as a snake




Get the point?
You dolts believed all the hype......

....now he....and you.....have been exposed.


Ooooops!

You're really good at ignoring what people actually say aren't you?

Please continue posting your rambling numbered lists of shit that don't address the point being made.

Your "point" seems to be that no matter how bad perception of Obama is, perception of the GOP is worse.
That really is whistling past the graveyard. Obama was the most hyped candidate and president in history. His fall in polls represents total failure not only of the Obama Administration but both the progressive movement and the Democratic party.
At this rate "progressive" will be about as popular as "Marxist" among voters.

And even then Dems and progressives will still be more popular and the Tea Party and Republicans.

 

[Neotrotsky]

No doubt
you are starting to see it


NYT
Troubled Start for Health Law Has Democrats Feeling Anxious

“People are anxious,” said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat.​

“I don’t think there’s confidence by anyone in the room,” said Senator Jeff Merkley, an Oregon Democrat up for re-election next year, as he emerged from the closed-door meeting in the Capitol. “This is more a show-me moment. We were all confident that the system was going to be up and operating on Oct 1. And now we’re not confident until it’s real.”​

The anxious include not only senators and House members facing hotly contested races but those whose seats are considered safe, as well as lawmakers in states with Republican governors who have done nothing to promote the health care law and in states with Democratic governors who have created state-run websites and made every effort to sign up the uninsured.

“It’s not working well,” said Senator Benjamin L. Cardin, Democrat of Maryland, whose state was hailed by Mr. Obama as a model for the Affordable Care Act.​

Watch the left and Obama apologists on the posting board
to gauge the effects of Obamacare failings...

The worse it gets, the more they will try to spin and redirect the topic
onto anything- Tea Party, Bush, Racism etc

On to anything but the truth

The lies the left and Papa Obama told the American voter
Really, how can anyone trust anything they ever say again


Obama lied
Healthcare plans died

 

[Derideo_Te]

Indeed

they want people to be comfortable with a group of elites
choosing for them

what could go wrong ?

Like the elitist Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are doing for the far right?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Indeed

they want people to be comfortable with a group of elites
choosing for them

what could go wrong ?

Like the elitist Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are doing for the far right?

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

 

[Neotrotsky]

No the ones with actual gov't power

but do not worry
Papa Obama knows how to suck on the corporate teat

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[NYcarbineer]

If conservatives ever had their way, if the impossible ever occurred, that conservatives held the majority in the federal government, these are a short list of the consequences:

There would be no more Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps, educational assistance, energy assistance, housing assistance.

Taxes would be raised on the Poor. Taxes on the Rich would be cut.

All abortion would be criminalized.

Gays would be kicked out of the military. Gay marriage would cease to exist as a legal institution.

The EPA would cease to exist. Polluters would be given virtual free rein at the federal level.

Unions would be all but outlawed. The minimum wage would cease to exist.

...and all that is just for starters...

I think many people never fully appreciate how bad conservatism really is because conservatism never gets to the point where its frightening set of ideas ever really get implemented.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Indeed

they want people to be comfortable with a group of elites
choosing for them

what could go wrong ?

Like the elitist Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are doing for the far right?

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

It should be noted that, when the enormous amount of funds and influence of the Soros empire was revealed the Left quickly sought a way to cloud the issue.

The found some conservative contributors, the Koch Brothers, and attempted to paint them as the same kind of evil on the Right as Soros is on the Left.


It couldn't be further from the truth.....but it does convince simpletons such as our friend Derideo_Te.



1. "Liberal group grants over 5x as much as Koch Brothers but goes largely unnoticed by the media
Consider these numbers, derived from multiple searches of foundation grant databases, IRS Form 990s and other public records:
Three Koch foundations made a total of 181 grants worth $25,405,525 in 2010 (most recent available records). The one Tides Foundation made a total of 2,627 grants worth $143,529,590 in 2010."
Liberal group grants over 5x as much as Koch Brothers but goes largely unnoticed by the media | Human Events

And that was only one Leftist snakes.



2. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]

a. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).

i. Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.
ii. Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

b. Fourteen progressive foundations exceed $1 billion, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.

i. Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.
ii. Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.
iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

3. One part, called “America Votes” was referred to by one of its staffers as a “monster coalition” coordinating all of the left-wing grassroots groups including ACORN, Planned Parenthoood Action Fund, Sierra Club and the American Federation of Teachers and the SEIU. Soros contributed $23,700,000 in 2004.
“The New Leviathan,” David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin

 

[Neotrotsky]

Progressive Government Fails

 

[Derideo_Te]

Indeed

they want people to be comfortable with a group of elites
choosing for them

what could go wrong ?

Like the elitist Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are doing for the far right?

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

Pointing out hypocrisy is not "ranting".

The powers-that-be on the right are just as elitist as those on the left.

As far as "writing laws" goes the lobbyists who are paid by the elitists dictate what ends up in those laws on both sides of the aisle.

That is reality today. You can pretend that it doesn't happen on your side if you want but it won't alter the facts.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Progressive Government Fails

if a picture is worth a thousand words

the message has been conveyed

--LOL

 

[Derideo_Te]

Like the elitist Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are doing for the far right?

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

It should be noted that, when the enormous amount of funds and influence of the Soros empire was revealed the Left quickly sought a way to cloud the issue.

The found some conservative contributors, the Koch Brothers, and attempted to paint them as the same kind of evil on the Right as Soros is on the Left.


It couldn't be further from the truth.....but it does convince simpletons such as our friend Derideo_Te.



1. "Liberal group grants over 5x as much as Koch Brothers but goes largely unnoticed by the media
Consider these numbers, derived from multiple searches of foundation grant databases, IRS Form 990s and other public records:
Three Koch foundations made a total of 181 grants worth $25,405,525 in 2010 (most recent available records). The one Tides Foundation made a total of 2,627 grants worth $143,529,590 in 2010."
Liberal group grants over 5x as much as Koch Brothers but goes largely unnoticed by the media | Human Events

And that was only one Leftist snakes.



2. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]

a. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).

i. Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.
ii. Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

b. Fourteen progressive foundations exceed $1 billion, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.

i. Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.
ii. Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.
iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

3. One part, called “America Votes” was referred to by one of its staffers as a “monster coalition” coordinating all of the left-wing grassroots groups including ACORN, Planned Parenthoood Action Fund, Sierra Club and the American Federation of Teachers and the SEIU. Soros contributed $23,700,000 in 2004.
“The New Leviathan,” David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin

So now I am a "simpleton", PC?

BTW thanks for the evidence that both sides are bought and paid for by elitists.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Like the elitist Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are doing for the far right?

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

Pointing out hypocrisy is not "ranting".

The powers-that-be on the right are just as elitist as those on the left.

As far as "writing laws" goes the lobbyists who are paid by the elitists dictate what ends up in those laws on both sides of the aisle.

That is reality today. You can pretend that it doesn't happen on your side if you want but it won't alter the facts.

not any of the three Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh

mandated that i buy anything

 

[Derideo_Te]

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

Pointing out hypocrisy is not "ranting".

The powers-that-be on the right are just as elitist as those on the left.

As far as "writing laws" goes the lobbyists who are paid by the elitists dictate what ends up in those laws on both sides of the aisle.

That is reality today. You can pretend that it doesn't happen on your side if you want but it won't alter the facts.

not any of the three Koch bros, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh

mandated that i buy anything

 

[PoliticalChic]

wow that was quite the mini rant this morning

since when did any of those write the laws

It should be noted that, when the enormous amount of funds and influence of the Soros empire was revealed the Left quickly sought a way to cloud the issue.

The found some conservative contributors, the Koch Brothers, and attempted to paint them as the same kind of evil on the Right as Soros is on the Left.


It couldn't be further from the truth.....but it does convince simpletons such as our friend Derideo_Te.



1. "Liberal group grants over 5x as much as Koch Brothers but goes largely unnoticed by the media
Consider these numbers, derived from multiple searches of foundation grant databases, IRS Form 990s and other public records:
Three Koch foundations made a total of 181 grants worth $25,405,525 in 2010 (most recent available records). The one Tides Foundation made a total of 2,627 grants worth $143,529,590 in 2010."
Liberal group grants over 5x as much as Koch Brothers but goes largely unnoticed by the media | Human Events

And that was only one Leftist snakes.



2. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]

a. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).

i. Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.
ii. Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

b. Fourteen progressive foundations exceed $1 billion, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.

i. Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.
ii. Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.
iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

3. One part, called “America Votes” was referred to by one of its staffers as a “monster coalition” coordinating all of the left-wing grassroots groups including ACORN, Planned Parenthoood Action Fund, Sierra Club and the American Federation of Teachers and the SEIU. Soros contributed $23,700,000 in 2004.
“The New Leviathan,” David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin

So now I am a "simpleton", PC?

BTW thanks for the evidence that both sides are bought and paid for by elitists.

1. The proof of 'simpleton'?

That, in the face of the data that I provided, you still see an equivalence.




Here is more for you to ignore, or an opportunity to more out of the 'simpleton' category:



2. Soros money supported and catalyzed theMcCain-Feingold Act, which banned ‘soft money,’ stripping the two major parties of their financial base. This allowed Soros to create a “Shadow Party,” designed to funnel massive amounts of capital into organizations that would assume the role that the political parties traditionally played.

a. A 527 group is a private, tax-exempt political organization set up under Section 527 of the U.S. tax code. Such groups have been around for years but never took center stage until 2004, when they became major players. That's because McCain-Feingold shut the door on unlimited contributions (so-called "soft money") to political parties, so that many of the big-dollar donations began flowing to 527 groups instead. McCain-Feingold at Rest - Reason.com



3. The Shadow Party was born July 17, 2003, at Soros’s estate. It created the largest and most powerful juggernaut in American history.

Present were Madeleine Albright, John Podesta, John Pope (director of the Sierra Club), Andy Stern (SEIU), among others. The basic structure of the Shadow Party was a network of seven 527 organizations.

a. “… the network of nonprofit activist groups organized by George Soros and others to mobilize resources -- money, get-outthe-vote drives, campaign advertising and policy iniatives -- to elect Democratic candidates and guide the Democratic Party towards the left. The Internet fund-raising operation MoveOn.org is a key component.

The Shadow Party in this sense was conceived and organized principally by Soros, Hillary Clinton and Harold Ickes. Its efforts are amplified by, and coordinated with, key government unions and the activist groups associated with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). The key organizers of these groups are veterans of the Sixties left.”
http://www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/02fake/102.pdf


4. One part, called “America Votes” was referred to by one of its staffers as a “monster coalition” coordinating all of the left-wing grassroots groups including ACORN, Planned Parenthoood Action Fund, Sierra Club and the American Federation of Teachers and the SEIU. Soros contributed $23,700,000 in 2004.

a. As of 2004, an alphabetical list of Shadow Party groups included the following: Air America Radio; America Coming Together; America Votes; American Constitution Society; American Federation of Labor - Congress of Industrial Organizations; American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees; American Federation of Teachers; Anshell Media; Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now; Association of Trial Lawyers of America; Band of Progressives; Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence; Campaign for a Progressive Future; Campaign for America's Future; Center for American Progress; Clean Water Action; Communication Workers of America; The Constitution Project; DASH PAC; Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund; Democracy for America; Democratic Governors Associations; Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee; Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee; Dog Eat Dog Films; EMILY's List; Environment 2004; Gore/Lieberman Recount Committee; Hotel Employees & Restaurant Employees International Union; the Human Rights Campaign; INdTV; International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers; Joint Victory Campaign 2004; Laborers International Union of North American; League of Conservation Voters; New Democrat Network; The Media Fund; Media Matters for America; Million Mom March; Moving America Forward; MoveOn.org; Music for America; National Association for the Advancement of Colored People; NARAL Pro-Choice America; National Education Association; National Grassroots Alliance; National Jewish Democratic Council; National Treasury Employees Union; New American Optimists; New Democrat Network; Partnership for America's Families; People for the American Way; Phoenix Group; Planned Parenthood; Pro-Choice Vote; Service Employees International Union; Sheet Metal Workers International Association; Sierra Club; The Thunder Road Group; United Food & Commercial Workers Union; United Progressive Alliance; USAction; Vagina Votes; Voices for Working Families; Vote for Change; Young Voter Alliance; and 21st Century Democrats. http://www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/02fake/102.pdf See also FrontPage Magazine - The Shadow Party: Part II Continued 2

 

[NYcarbineer]

[iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

Hmmm...so the leading charitable foundation in America is a liberal one, founded by Bill Gates,

a liberal, who is also one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the history of American capitalism.

I thought liberals were all Communists?

lol, you people never think before you post.

...watch how long and rambling the response to this post is...