Progressive Propaganda: The 2nd Amendment Edition

[Daryl Hunt]

Thank God that Chicago banned firearms! It has saved soooo many lives. Hasn’t been a single shooting since they did that. Yeah for gun control!

Chicago shooting: Suspect and three people are dead - CNN

Using weapons illegal imported from states with little or no gun regulations.

Bingo! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! The retard can be taught! And just like heroin and cocaine, criminals will “import” firearms from other nations if the left pisses on the U.S. Constitution and bans firearms.

What you are say, then, is, we allow Heroin to be legalized in various states so they can be illegally transported to other states without trace. You should send that idea to Texas and Kansas. Kansas is looking for new ways to balance their budget right about now since the state budget is nearing bankruptcy.

that is why national laws have to be enacted; just like for the minimum wage.

I disagree. Any State should be able to set their own minimum wage. But if they set it too low, they should not look for the other states to constantly bail them out with welfare. A good (or bad) example is the deep south red states who per capita draw in more federal welfare money than the deep blue states do. Corporate Welfare should be made illegal through federal laws where they HAVE to pay their workers a working wage to keep their doors open or they have to close their doors. Comon, the millions that the top Execs make, they can afford to put back in a couple or three million of their tens of millions back into the company for wages and not even feel it. and when a minimum wage is raised, go after the profiteers that take advantage of the added wages as well. This is why raising the minimum wage doesn't work. The Profiteers end up taking not only the added wages but a bit more and the worker just sinks even deeper.

As for Firearms, the States have the right to make their own laws. But the Feds have the right to block the shipping of the guns to a specific state except the state they are manufactured in. It's called Interstate Commerce. If a border state keeps doing the strawman sales then the way to stop it is too no longer allow the gun manufacturers to ship to that particular state. Since the strawman sales affect other states and countries, it does fall under the Interstate Commerce and the Feds can get involved. But they have to do it through trade laws and not gun regulations.

 

[danielpalos]

Raising the minimum wage works. We just need national Standards. Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and create more in demand. It really is that simple.

 

[P@triot]

No he doesn't.

He like all the gunn huggers just flit from one inane "argument" to another with no logical connection between them

Typical response from the anti-gun nuts who have had their asses handed to them with facts.

 

[P@triot]

Raising the minimum wage works. We just need national Standards. Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and create more in demand. It really is that simple.

And yet you can’t provide a single link to back that up (because lies can’t be backed up).

Meanwhile, I have provided dozens and dozens of links proving that jobs are lost, hours are cut, wages decrease, and tax revenues plummet when the minimum wage is raised.

You lose Daniel. It really is that simple.

 

[P@triot]

Raising the minimum wage works.

If it “works”, why has the minimum wage been raised 8 times in my lifetime?!?

President Trump and the Republicans cut taxes. You won’t see them do that 7 more times. You won’t even see it one more time until AFTER Dumbocrats raise taxes again.

When something “works” snowflake, it doesn’t have to be increased over and over and over. If something actually works, it only has to be done once.

 

[P@triot]

Thank God for our right to keep and bear arms...

Man on crime spree dressed as woman attempts to rob store — but clerk takes him down with handgun

 

[Lesh]

Raising the minimum wage works.

If it “works”, why has the minimum wage been raised 8 times in my lifetime?!?

President Trump and the Republicans cut taxes. You won’t see them do that 7 more times. You won’t even see it one more time until AFTER Dumbocrats raise taxes again.

When something “works” snowflake, it doesn’t have to be increased over and over and over. If something actually works, it only has to be done once.

So you must be able to point to 8 times where the local or regional economy crashed because of it.

And yet no...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No he doesn't.

He like all the gunn huggers just flit from one inane "argument" to another with no logical connection between them

Typical response from the anti-gun nuts who have had their asses handed to them with facts.

You don't have facts. You have opinions. There is no proof one way or another that more guns means less gun violence. Just like there is no proof that fewer guns means less. But there is pretty good proof that if you are playing good guy, there is a more than even chance you will be shot and killed by the cops when they show up because you are holding a gun. Even a cop knows that when other cops show up he flashes his badge high over his head to keep from getting shot if he's not in uniform.

But don't let a little common sense get in the way of your fantasy.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Raising the minimum wage works.

If it “works”, why has the minimum wage been raised 8 times in my lifetime?!?

President Trump and the Republicans cut taxes. You won’t see them do that 7 more times. You won’t even see it one more time until AFTER Dumbocrats raise taxes again.

When something “works” snowflake, it doesn’t have to be increased over and over and over. If something actually works, it only has to be done once.

Due to the tax cuts, they are having to raise money other ways by cutting services and dipping into the SS Trust Fund once again. Taking money from the Trust Fund or raising the amount of deduction to pay for their taking of that money is downright stealing. That's MY money. And a few tens of millions of others money. And, on top of that, Trump and his cronies are dumping one hell of a bill on our grand kids in the future. He's the king of the National Debt now in the short time he's been in office.

Like many old style Republicans, I am a Progressive Fiscal Conservative. I find Trump and the new Party of Trump reckless financially.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Thank God for our right to keep and bear arms...

Man on crime spree dressed as woman attempts to rob store — but clerk takes him down with handgun

Yes, another gun violent crime in a deep red state. Don't you see a problem here?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Raising the minimum wage works. We just need national Standards. Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and create more in demand. It really is that simple.

And yet you can’t provide a single link to back that up (because lies can’t be backed up).

Meanwhile, I have provided dozens and dozens of links proving that jobs are lost, hours are cut, wages decrease, and tax revenues plummet when the minimum wage is raised.

You lose Daniel. It really is that simple.

Around here, it has had no affect one way or another. Yes, the prices for a burger went up but people still eat. Minimum wage only affects the service jobs and you can't cut the service jobs. People needs to be serviced when they go out. And they don't stop going out when the burger goes up a buck.

The reason that the minimum wage increase doesn't have a real affect is because the greed factor of the rich also raise the cost of living on these folks. The Minimum wage goes up to compensate for years of not keeping up with the cost of living. But the cost of living goes up that much more and then some. The worker ends up losing even more. Yes, Capitalism at it's worst.

 

[Brain357]

If guns make us safe and secure, why so many gun deaths compared to other civilized nations?

You pathetic excrement spewing hack, London murders more people than NY City...wait for it...using knives since guns are banned.

NYC has rather strong gun control.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Thank God that Chicago banned firearms! It has saved soooo many lives. Hasn’t been a single shooting since they did that. Yeah for gun control!

Chicago shooting: Suspect and three people are dead - CNN

Using weapons illegal imported from states with little or no gun regulations.

Bingo! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! The retard can be taught! And just like heroin and cocaine, criminals will “import” firearms from other nations if the left pisses on the U.S. Constitution and bans firearms.

What you are say, then, is, we allow Heroin to be legalized in various states so they can be illegally transported to other states without trace. You should send that idea to Texas and Kansas. Kansas is looking for new ways to balance their budget right about now since the state budget is nearing bankruptcy.

We should decriminalize possession of all drugs

do that and watch drug crimes virtually disappear

 

[Skull Pilot]

If guns make us safe and secure, why so many gun deaths compared to other civilized nations?

You pathetic excrement spewing hack, London murders more people than NY City...wait for it...using knives since guns are banned.

NYC has rather strong gun control.

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

 

[Skull Pilot]

No he doesn't.

He like all the gunn huggers just flit from one inane "argument" to another with no logical connection between them

Typical response from the anti-gun nuts who have had their asses handed to them with facts.

You don't have facts. You have opinions. There is no proof one way or another that more guns means less gun violence. Just like there is no proof that fewer guns means less. But there is pretty good proof that if you are playing good guy, there is a more than even chance you will be shot and killed by the cops when they show up because you are holding a gun. Even a cop knows that when other cops show up he flashes his badge high over his head to keep from getting shot if he's not in uniform.

But don't let a little common sense get in the way of your fantasy.

you mean like your opinion that an AR 15 is somehow more dangerous than any other semiautomatic rifle of the same caliber?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Thank God for our right to keep and bear arms...

Man on crime spree dressed as woman attempts to rob store — but clerk takes him down with handgun

Yes, another gun violent crime in a deep red state. Don't you see a problem here?

the clerk shooting a piece of shit criminal is not a crime

 

[Brain357]

If guns make us safe and secure, why so many gun deaths compared to other civilized nations?

You pathetic excrement spewing hack, London murders more people than NY City...wait for it...using knives since guns are banned.

NYC has rather strong gun control.

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

 

[Brain357]

No he doesn't.

He like all the gunn huggers just flit from one inane "argument" to another with no logical connection between them

Typical response from the anti-gun nuts who have had their asses handed to them with facts.

You don't have facts. You have opinions. There is no proof one way or another that more guns means less gun violence. Just like there is no proof that fewer guns means less. But there is pretty good proof that if you are playing good guy, there is a more than even chance you will be shot and killed by the cops when they show up because you are holding a gun. Even a cop knows that when other cops show up he flashes his badge high over his head to keep from getting shot if he's not in uniform.

But don't let a little common sense get in the way of your fantasy.

you mean like your opinion that an AR 15 is somehow more dangerous than any other semiautomatic rifle of the same caliber?

Sure was dangerous in Vegas.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If guns make us safe and secure, why so many gun deaths compared to other civilized nations?

You pathetic excrement spewing hack, London murders more people than NY City...wait for it...using knives since guns are banned.

NYC has rather strong gun control.

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

 

[Skull Pilot]

No he doesn't.

He like all the gunn huggers just flit from one inane "argument" to another with no logical connection between them

Typical response from the anti-gun nuts who have had their asses handed to them with facts.

You don't have facts. You have opinions. There is no proof one way or another that more guns means less gun violence. Just like there is no proof that fewer guns means less. But there is pretty good proof that if you are playing good guy, there is a more than even chance you will be shot and killed by the cops when they show up because you are holding a gun. Even a cop knows that when other cops show up he flashes his badge high over his head to keep from getting shot if he's not in uniform.

But don't let a little common sense get in the way of your fantasy.

you mean like your opinion that an AR 15 is somehow more dangerous than any other semiautomatic rifle of the same caliber?

Sure was dangerous in Vegas.

Any other semiautomatic rifle of the same caliber could have been used
A larger caliber would killed even more people

Yet the fact remains less than 1% of all murders occur in mass shooting events and those scary black rifles account for an even smaller percentage of all murders