Progressive Propaganda: The 2nd Amendment Edition

[Brain357]

If guns make us safe and secure, why so many gun deaths compared to other civilized nations?

You pathetic excrement spewing hack, London murders more people than NY City...wait for it...using knives since guns are banned.

NYC has rather strong gun control.

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

 

[Brain357]

No he doesn't.

He like all the gunn huggers just flit from one inane "argument" to another with no logical connection between them

Typical response from the anti-gun nuts who have had their asses handed to them with facts.

You don't have facts. You have opinions. There is no proof one way or another that more guns means less gun violence. Just like there is no proof that fewer guns means less. But there is pretty good proof that if you are playing good guy, there is a more than even chance you will be shot and killed by the cops when they show up because you are holding a gun. Even a cop knows that when other cops show up he flashes his badge high over his head to keep from getting shot if he's not in uniform.

But don't let a little common sense get in the way of your fantasy.

you mean like your opinion that an AR 15 is somehow more dangerous than any other semiautomatic rifle of the same caliber?

Sure was dangerous in Vegas.

Any other semiautomatic rifle of the same caliber could have been used
A larger caliber would killed even more people

Yet the fact remains less than 1% of all murders occur in mass shooting events and those scary black rifles account for an even smaller percentage of all murders

They have proven they can quickly kill 50+ people. Should be banned.

 

[Lesh]

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

They are cities of comparable size BUT

Looking at 2017, the homicide rate per 100,000 population stood at 1.2 in London and 3.4 in New York.

Oh....

 

[Skull Pilot]

You pathetic excrement spewing hack, London murders more people than NY City...wait for it...using knives since guns are banned.

NYC has rather strong gun control.

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

it's the RATE that counts not the population

and even in a state to state comparison NH has a murder rate almost 3 times lower than NY

 

[Skull Pilot]

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

They are cities of comparable size BUT

Looking at 2017, the homicide rate per 100,000 population stood at 1.2 in London and 3.4 in New York.

Oh....

IDGAF about London. Never did. Never will

NH has the lowest murder rate in the country despite having rather relaxed gun laws

CA has a murder rate that is more than 4 times higher despite having the strictest gun laws in the country

These are facts

 

[Brain357]

NYC has rather strong gun control.

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

it's the RATE that counts not the population

and even in a state to state comparison NH has a murder rate almost 3 times lower than NY

Again, NH has no large city. Let’s compare NYC to Houston?

 

[Brain357]

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

They are cities of comparable size BUT

Looking at 2017, the homicide rate per 100,000 population stood at 1.2 in London and 3.4 in New York.

Oh....

IDGAF about London. Never did. Never will

NH has the lowest murder rate in the country despite having rather relaxed gun laws

CA has a murder rate that is more than 4 times higher despite having the strictest gun laws in the country

These are facts

NH has no large cities. Your dishonesty is just sad. CA has many large cities.

 

[Skull Pilot]

And a higher murder rate than NH which does not have "strong gun control"

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

it's the RATE that counts not the population

and even in a state to state comparison NH has a murder rate almost 3 times lower than NY

Again, NH has no large city. Let’s compare NYC to Houston?

Again it doesn't matter. MURDERS PER 100000 residents of the state is what matters

or are you finally agreeing with me that it is our ultra violent inner cities that drive the murder rate of the entire country?

 

[Brain357]

That’s funny. NYC is the largest city in the country. Why not compare to gun nut southern cities? NH doesn’t even have a large city. Every pro gun argument is dishonest..

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

it's the RATE that counts not the population

and even in a state to state comparison NH has a murder rate almost 3 times lower than NY

Again, NH has no large city. Let’s compare NYC to Houston?

Again it doesn't matter. MURDERS PER 100000 residents of the state is what matters

or are you finally agreeing with me that it is our ultra violent inner cities that drive the murder rate of the entire country?

Of course it matters. Let’s compare Houston to NYC.

 

[Lesh]

IDGAF about London. Never did. Never will

NH has the lowest murder rate in the country despite having rather relaxed gun laws

CA has a murder rate that is more than 4 times higher despite having the strictest gun laws in the country

These are facts

IDGAF about London. Never did. Never will, You did...until you got smacked down

NH has the lowest murder rate in the country despite having rather relaxed gun laws. Waco Texas...is #30 on the murder hit parade. NY doesn't even register. NYC has very tight gun regs...and unlike Chicago...is not surrounded by lax gun law states

 

[Skull Pilot]

Once again you illustrate that you do not understand murder rates

Murder rates are expressed as murders per 100000 so it matters not if one state has a higher or lower population as it is not the number of murders that matters but the MURDER RATE

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

it's the RATE that counts not the population

and even in a state to state comparison NH has a murder rate almost 3 times lower than NY

Again, NH has no large city. Let’s compare NYC to Houston?

Again it doesn't matter. MURDERS PER 100000 residents of the state is what matters

or are you finally agreeing with me that it is our ultra violent inner cities that drive the murder rate of the entire country?

Of course it matters. Let’s compare Houston to NYC.

Not to the murder rate it doesn't

The murder rate of a state is MURDERS PER 100000 residents it doesn't matter where they live in that state

Or are you finally realizing that it is the ultra violent inner cities that skew the murder rate of the entire country ?

 

[Skull Pilot]

IDGAF about London. Never did. Never will

NH has the lowest murder rate in the country despite having rather relaxed gun laws

CA has a murder rate that is more than 4 times higher despite having the strictest gun laws in the country

These are facts

IDGAF about London. Never did. Never will, You did...until you got smacked down

NH has the lowest murder rate in the country despite having rather relaxed gun laws. Waco Texas...is #30 on the murder hit parade. NY doesn't even register. NYC has very tight gun regs...and unlike Chicago...is not surrounded by lax gun law states

FYI residents of cities are state residents

It matters not where people in a state live

Or are you finally realizing that it is our ultra violent inner cities that skew the murder rate of the entire country?

 

[Lesh]

Awful lot of "loose gun law" red states with higher murder rates than California

Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

 

[Lesh]

Or are you finally realizing that it is the ultra violent inner cities that skew the murder rate of the entire country ?

Oh really?

New Jersey has Camden and Newark and Jersey City...and STILL has a lower murder rate that Missouri ,Arkansas,Georgia, and a whole lot of other red states

 

[MisterBeale]

One has to give republicans (dark money) credit, they have managed to brain wash the snowflake base with BS and more BS. If guns make us safe and secure, why so many gun deaths compared to other civilized nations? If the premise were true we'd have few deaths, but instead we lead in a category no one should be proud of. But I give them credit for keeping their base in line. Mention abortion, gun control, welfare, food stamps, immigrants, and the snowflakes sell their soul, work for peanuts, care nothing for living children, and have poor health services, oh and die too from gun violence. While insanity may be expecting different results, one could also say it is following too close slogans sans positive results. And so it goes....

"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America

 

[Lesh]

Oh and by the way...NH has a very low gun ownership per centage

 

[Brain357]

You are comparing a city to a state. Your first dishonest move. Your also comparing the largest city to a state with no large cities. More dishonest. Everyone knows big cities have gangs and higher crime rates. You are on the wrong side when your arguments are so dishonest.

it's the RATE that counts not the population

and even in a state to state comparison NH has a murder rate almost 3 times lower than NY

Again, NH has no large city. Let’s compare NYC to Houston?

Again it doesn't matter. MURDERS PER 100000 residents of the state is what matters

or are you finally agreeing with me that it is our ultra violent inner cities that drive the murder rate of the entire country?

Of course it matters. Let’s compare Houston to NYC.

Not to the murder rate it doesn't

The murder rate of a state is MURDERS PER 100000 residents it doesn't matter where they live in that state

Or are you finally realizing that it is the ultra violent inner cities that skew the murder rate of the entire country ?

So you don’t want an honest comparison like Houston to NYC? You lose in honest comparisons. You just dishonestly cherry pick. There are many gun control countries with lower homicide rates than NH btw...

 

[MisterBeale]

As is always the case, the left has been caught in a web of lies. As is always the case, a firearm wasn’t the problem. As is always the case, it was left-wing policy that lead to the deaths of children.

“It was so many things. I had three students bring knives to my classroom. One was out of the classroom for one day. Another had so many things on his record, he was gone for five days. None were expelled,” Mary Fitzgerald, who taught in the district for 37 years, said. “My principal basically would tell me it was his job to market the school. He was adamant about not looking bad.”

That sums up the left nicely. More concerned about appearance and P.R. than protecting children and effective policy.

Florida newspaper exposes Broward County School system’s incompetence with blockbuster new story

I'm not a big Beck fan, nor do I give the Blaze much credit, obviously they have a rep. for being highly partisan.

With that said, both the left and right should take seriously the piece in the Sun-Sentinel. Nice piece of journalism. Thank you. I wish there was a way to embed that video.

Schools' culture of tolerance lets students like Nikolas Cruz slide
Schools' culture of tolerance lets students like Nikolas Cruz slide

 

[MisterBeale]

Why are folks talking about guns?

That isn't what the OP is about?

Isn't there enough threads on guns in the forum? The first reply to the OP was just a deflection. Are you all that dumb?

 

[Brain357]

Why are folks talking about guns?

That isn't what the OP is about?

Isn't there enough threads on guns in the forum? The first reply to the OP was just a deflection. Are you all that dumb?

Countries with strong gun control don’t have a school shooting problem.