Pure Spirit? Really?

[hobelim]

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Yes. Hebrew does not always translate well into English.

The translation in my Bible of Genesis 3:8 - When they heard the sound of the Lord God moving about in the garden at the breezy time of day, the man and his wife hid themselves...

Some Hebrew translations into English use - When they heard the voice of the Lord God
Another notes - They heard the sound of the Holy One as He walked in the garden in the wind of the day...

While the English translation gives the impression it was the sound of walking or moving around, the Hebrew indicates it was the sound of God. As you note this communication could have been more like we think of telepathy or of hearts communicating.

Thank you for the Hebrew translations Meriweather. One of the really important parts of those translations is that in the one that says they heard His voice, yes, that could be telepathy, and I think it may very well be.

But, Czernobog is saying that there are other versions that translate as "sound" instead of "voice", and in the other two translations that say sound instead of voice, it also says that where God was moving around in the garden, it was breezy or windy. Maybe His presence caused the wind, which in turn generated the noise?

Only if his presence was physical...

Well, then think about this....................it is said that God is Light, and we know that light generates heat.

We also know that temperature differences is what generates wind.

Ever consider that it was the heat and light that God generates just by being Him caused temperature differentials where He was at in the garden, resulting in the breeze or wind being generated, and thus the sound?

The Lord said, “Go out and stand on the mountain before the Lord. Look, the Lord is ready to pass by.”

A very powerful wind went before the Lord, digging into the mountain and causing landslides, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the windstorm there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake, there was a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. After the fire, there was a soft whisper.

 

[hobelim]

They heard the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. Think about that. It is not necessarily about audible footsteps.

They were still in the realm where God is perceptible to human beings. The connection between them through the only thing incorporeal about man, the conscious mind, was not yet broken.

Yeah...think about that. It makes no sense. This is why the other, more accurate versions of the bible, translate the original Hebrew as sound not voice. Now, if we're going to spend all of our time arguing the proper translations, then we're going to get nowhere.

Let me put it this way. If you cannot perceive the living God with your incorporeal mind a microscope won't help.

You might as well be seeking scientific proof that three pigs can build houses.

You really need to quit using fables, and fairy tales as your analogies. Because that is rather the whole point of us atheists - that the Bible is nothing more than a collection of fables, and fairy tales written by men, and is no more reliable as evidence of anything than any other work of fiction.

So they amount to fairy tales and fables. So what. Why stop there?

What are those fables and fairy tales teaching?

If that remains hidden from you, you really have no way to measure their worth.

Basically, they are teaching obedience to the theocratic government of the time.

The only problem with that theory is that most of the bible and all of the gospels were written during or after times of conquest exile and harsh oppression by nations far more powerful than the authors.

Its far more likely that scripture conceals coded instructions about how to live life during wartime and how to safely resist assimilation and organize insurrection without the enemy having a clue..


First there is a great wind and a landslide , then an earthquake and a fire.... followed by a soft whisper...

Don't be distracted by shiny objects.. listen carefully, if you have ears to hear, and Shhhh!

 

[Czernobog]

The explanation is simple. That came from ancient writings from a time when stories of Gods and supernatural occurrences were taken at face value. No one questioned whether you could actually hear a supposed god walking. Later, when all those ancient manuscripts were compiled, and people could compare the obvious discrepancies,they began making up things to explain those discrepancies away. There are lots of discrepancies throughout the Bible, and even more convoluted beliefs to try to make them all fit together.

Sooo...the shit was just made up. And we're supposed to take the bible seriously, why?

I certainly take the Bible seriously, but not literally. There is a lot of honest guidance and comfort to be found in the bible. I use it for that. If you choose to take it literally, that's fine, but my life experience and logic doesn't allow me to do that. If it is more than I think it is, I hope someone will show me where I am wrong. It would be great to just let someone, or something make my decisions for me, and not have to worry if things will turn out for the best.

Okay. However, that makes the bible no different than the Bhagavad Gita, the writings of Sun Tsu, or any of a thousand other self help books. And it remains useless as a source for "proving" the existence of God.

 

[BreezeWood]

The typical argument for why no objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God is that God is a being of pure spirit, and science can only observe the physical.

Okay. So, someone explain Genesis 3:8.

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

Next.

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Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical ...

physiology is a metaphysical substance that disappears when life (Spirit) is removed from it. there is no question the supernatural being referred to has a metaphysical presence. every being on Earth eventually disappears - from their physical state. and once made footsteps.

 

[Czernobog]

The typical argument for why no objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God is that God is a being of pure spirit, and science can only observe the physical.

Okay. So, someone explain Genesis 3:8.

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

Next.

.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical ...

physiology is a metaphysical substance that disappears when life (Spirit) is removed from it. there is no question the supernatural being referred to has a metaphysical presence. every being on Earth eventually disappears - from their physical state. and once made footsteps.

Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

 

[BULLDOG]

The explanation is simple. That came from ancient writings from a time when stories of Gods and supernatural occurrences were taken at face value. No one questioned whether you could actually hear a supposed god walking. Later, when all those ancient manuscripts were compiled, and people could compare the obvious discrepancies,they began making up things to explain those discrepancies away. There are lots of discrepancies throughout the Bible, and even more convoluted beliefs to try to make them all fit together.

Sooo...the shit was just made up. And we're supposed to take the bible seriously, why?

I certainly take the Bible seriously, but not literally. There is a lot of honest guidance and comfort to be found in the bible. I use it for that. If you choose to take it literally, that's fine, but my life experience and logic doesn't allow me to do that. If it is more than I think it is, I hope someone will show me where I am wrong. It would be great to just let someone, or something make my decisions for me, and not have to worry if things will turn out for the best.

Okay. However, that makes the bible no different than the Bhagavad Gita, the writings of Sun Tsu, or any of a thousand other self help books. And it remains useless as a source for "proving" the existence of God.

The Bible has never been, and will never be able to "prove" the existence of God.

 

[BreezeWood]

The typical argument for why no objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God is that God is a being of pure spirit, and science can only observe the physical.

Okay. So, someone explain Genesis 3:8.

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

Next.

.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical ...

physiology is a metaphysical substance that disappears when life (Spirit) is removed from it. there is no question the supernatural being referred to has a metaphysical presence. every being on Earth eventually disappears - from their physical state. and once made footsteps.

Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

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Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

physiology both appears and disappears, it is a metaphysical substance linked to the supernatural and is present only when given life in the form of a Spirit - there is no reason to believe a supernatural being can not produce a metaphysical presence at will.

 

[Czernobog]

The typical argument for why no objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God is that God is a being of pure spirit, and science can only observe the physical.

Okay. So, someone explain Genesis 3:8.

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

Next.

.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical ...

physiology is a metaphysical substance that disappears when life (Spirit) is removed from it. there is no question the supernatural being referred to has a metaphysical presence. every being on Earth eventually disappears - from their physical state. and once made footsteps.

Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

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Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

physiology both appears and disappears, it is a metaphysical substance linked to the supernatural and is present only when given life in the form of a Spirit - there is no reason to believe a supernatural being can not produce a metaphysical presence at will.

You get that physiology isn't a thing; it's a study, right?

 

[hobelim]

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Yes. Hebrew does not always translate well into English.

The translation in my Bible of Genesis 3:8 - When they heard the sound of the Lord God moving about in the garden at the breezy time of day, the man and his wife hid themselves...

Some Hebrew translations into English use - When they heard the voice of the Lord God
Another notes - They heard the sound of the Holy One as He walked in the garden in the wind of the day...

While the English translation gives the impression it was the sound of walking or moving around, the Hebrew indicates it was the sound of God. As you note this communication could have been more like we think of telepathy or of hearts communicating.

No. The Hebrew indicates that it was the sound of God moving. Trying to discount that part changers the entire passage. However, even ignoring that part. How does one "hear" something that is not physical?

Words without sound.

What do you hear in your mind when you read?

Nothing?

What do you hear when you think if not words that make no sound?

Exactly. I hear nothing. Unless I'm read aloud. Which I rarely do if I am reading to myself. Interpreting words read is not the same as hearing them said. In fact, two very different parts of the brain are used to interpret visual cues (reading) and auditory cues (hearing). That's kinda basic physiology.

"Interpreting words read is not the same as hearing them said."


When Jesus was speaking in parables, many times he finished by saying, "Hear if you have ears to hear."

The words he spoke were audible but the intended message made no sound and was never written down. There was no such thing as freedom of expression and people were maimed and killed on a daily basis for trivial reasons.

The only way for those listening to hear that message was to understand the hidden meaning of the spoken words. The only way for you to hear that message is to understand the hidden meaning of the written words. Either way, no sound required.

Can you hear me now?


"Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death." Thomas 1:1

"The kingdom of Heaven is like treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it, buried it again."


"Time was when many were aghast at you, my people, so now many nations recoil at sight of him. And kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts."

 

[Czernobog]

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Yes. Hebrew does not always translate well into English.

The translation in my Bible of Genesis 3:8 - When they heard the sound of the Lord God moving about in the garden at the breezy time of day, the man and his wife hid themselves...

Some Hebrew translations into English use - When they heard the voice of the Lord God
Another notes - They heard the sound of the Holy One as He walked in the garden in the wind of the day...

While the English translation gives the impression it was the sound of walking or moving around, the Hebrew indicates it was the sound of God. As you note this communication could have been more like we think of telepathy or of hearts communicating.

No. The Hebrew indicates that it was the sound of God moving. Trying to discount that part changers the entire passage. However, even ignoring that part. How does one "hear" something that is not physical?

Words without sound.

What do you hear in your mind when you read?

Nothing?

What do you hear when you think if not words that make no sound?

Exactly. I hear nothing. Unless I'm read aloud. Which I rarely do if I am reading to myself. Interpreting words read is not the same as hearing them said. In fact, two very different parts of the brain are used to interpret visual cues (reading) and auditory cues (hearing). That's kinda basic physiology.

"Interpreting words read is not the same as hearing them said."


When Jesus was speaking in parables, many times he finished by saying, "Hear if you have ears to hear."

The words he spoke were audible but the intended message made no sound and was never written down. There was no such thing as freedom of expression and people were maimed and killed on a daily basis for trivial reasons.

The only way for those listening to hear that message was to understand the hidden meaning of the spoken words. The only way for you to hear that message is to understand the hidden meaning of the written words. Either way, no sound required.

Can you hear me now?


"Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death." Thomas 1:1

"The kingdom of Heaven is like treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it, buried it again."


"Time was when many were aghast at you, my people, so now many nations recoil at sight of him. And kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts."

Now you're conflating two different things. The book of genesis is not a parable being told by anyone. it is a straight up narrative. Your argument was that things that are non-phyiscal make sounds. There is not a single example of this being true anywhere. When Jesus was "telling his parables" was he speaking words? If he was everyone heard the words he was speaking. Either God was physically walking through the garden as Genesis 3:8 says, or, once again, the bible is demonstrated to be inconsistent, and unreliable as a source of anything.

I'll leave it to you to decide which.

 

[hobelim]

Now you're conflating two different things. The book of genesis is not a parable being told by anyone. it is a straight up narrative. Your argument was that things that are non-phyiscal make sounds

No, no and no.

Genesis is a metaphorical narrative of the Law coming into the world from an extraterrestrial source as a light spoken into existence in a world that had been without form and void with darkness, superstition, covering the face of the deep for billions of years. It was not written by historians or scientists.

My argument was not that non physical things make sounds. My argument is that some words convey hidden meaning that is not audible whether written or spoken. To hear that meaning requires understanding the metaphors.

In another thread I asked an observant Jew whether he understood the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. It was a simple question.

He took it as a personal attack. That was not my intent. Obviously he heard something that did not make any sound that was not directly connected to the literal meaning of the written words used..

Capisci?

 

[BreezeWood]

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

Next.

.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical ...

physiology is a metaphysical substance that disappears when life (Spirit) is removed from it. there is no question the supernatural being referred to has a metaphysical presence. every being on Earth eventually disappears - from their physical state. and once made footsteps.

Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

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Sure. everyone, eventually, decomposes, and there is nothing left of them. Somehow, I don't think that applies to this God of yours.

physiology both appears and disappears, it is a metaphysical substance linked to the supernatural and is present only when given life in the form of a Spirit - there is no reason to believe a supernatural being can not produce a metaphysical presence at will.

You get that physiology isn't a thing; it's a study, right?

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You get that physiology isn't a thing; it's a study, right?

you were corrected on that subject previously, I'll not bother again.

physiology both appears and disappears, it is a metaphysical substance linked to the supernatural and is present only when given life in the form of a Spirit

as before you refuse to explain the origin of physiology, when confronted that it is a metaphysical substance not native to Earth and is representative of the supernatural present in the Universe in explanation for the physical nature of beings you simply digress into semantic wonderland to avoid the subject atheism has no explanation for - you are as phony as any of the desert religions.

 

[zaangalewa]

The typical argument for why no objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God is that God is a being of pure spirit, and science can only observe the physical.

Okay. So, someone explain Genesis 3:8.

The argument is not the spirit of god. The argument is "god is the creator of everything". When god created existence was no existence before god did do so. So we are not able to say "God exists" in a way to compare this with anything else what is creation. Christians believe and trust in god, the creator, and not in god, the creation. Atheists believe god is a creation of human beings and Christians believe god created everything including human beings.

And in Genesis 3:8 is written "but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Why do you need an explanation of this sentence?

 

[zaangalewa]

‘Pure spirit’ is the same as it’s all in your head – which it is.

Well...I know that is the atheist position. I'm trying to get a theist to explain the discrepancy.

"Theists" are the idea of atheists. No one in the world is a theist or believes in theism - whatever this could be. People, who believe in god are called for example Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus and so on.

 

[zaangalewa]

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Yes. Hebrew does not always translate well into English.

The translation in my Bible of Genesis 3:8 - When they heard the sound of the Lord God moving about in the garden at the breezy time of day, the man and his wife hid themselves...

Some Hebrew translations into English use - When they heard the voice of the Lord God
Another notes - They heard the sound of the Holy One as He walked in the garden in the wind of the day...

While the English translation gives the impression it was the sound of walking or moving around, the Hebrew indicates it was the sound of God. As you note this communication could have been more like we think of telepathy or of hearts communicating.

No. The Hebrew indicates that it was the sound of God moving. Trying to discount that part changers the entire passage. However, even ignoring that part. How does one "hear" something that is not physical?

Words without sound.

What do you hear in your mind when you read?

Nothing?

What do you hear when you think if not words that make no sound?

Exactly. I hear nothing. Unless I'm read aloud. Which I rarely do if I am reading to myself. Interpreting words read is not the same as hearing them said. In fact, two very different parts of the brain are used to interpret visual cues (reading) and auditory cues (hearing). That's kinda basic physiology.

Our brain is not made to read. To combine this two parts of the brain is what we are doing when we learn to read. Someone who reads hears often indeed nothing - because the brain functions for "to hear" are used from the function "to read".

 

[zaangalewa]

Czernobog

In case of the sentence Genesis 3:8 "but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” I'm astonished that god created in this context an expanding universe. If we could travel through this universe with a spaceship - what would happen? We would always see all around us an expanding universe. So every point of the universe is always in the middle of the universe and never we would reach a border. Nowhere is a border - nowhere a skin which separates inside and outside. But what is this middle without skin and outside? The persuader, the challenger? The tree? We? God? ...

 

[zaangalewa]

The explanation is simple. That came from ancient writings from a time when stories of Gods and supernatural occurrences were taken at face value. No one questioned whether you could actually hear a supposed god walking. Later, when all those ancient manuscripts were compiled, and people could compare the obvious discrepancies,they began making up things to explain those discrepancies away. There are lots of discrepancies throughout the Bible, and even more convoluted beliefs to try to make them all fit together.

Christians know nothing about god and atheists know everything about Christians? Sounds a little naive, isn't it? I wonder myself by the way why the English speaking world knows always only enemies. But I got an explanation: Paranoia is virulent.

 

[EGR one]

The typical argument for why no objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God is that God is a being of pure spirit, and science can only observe the physical.

Okay. So, someone explain Genesis 3:8.

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Except that's not what it said. It says they heard his footsteps. One's footsteps cannot make a sound unless one is physical.

Next.

3.8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day. It doesn't say they heard his footsteps. BTW, if one is God, one can make sounds if one has a mind to do so.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Yeah.,..that's the problem with the King James. While the Old English is lyrical, the translation is, by far, the least accurate. You see, the word translated as "voice" in that verse is קוֹל(qowl), which acvtually means, either voice, or sound. However, the only other time "voice" is used is when it is actively ascribing the sound to a person speaking. Hence, the more logical translation in 3:8 is as it is found in the NIV - "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day,"

Otherwise, if it was his "voice", what was he saying, and why was that not recorded, as it is every other time qowl is translated as "voice"?

Oh - I confused Genesis 3:3 with 3:8. 3:8 is Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden.

 

[EGR one]

I'll give it a shot.........................

God is a being of pure spirit and energy, which means that He would communicate via telepathy, and the reason they "heard" Him is probably that they heard Him thinking or more likely, felt His presence.

I mean, think about it..................when a person prays, they generally bow their heads and pray silently. That means they are using telepathy to speak to God.

BTW...................small favor next time...............could you include the whole Bible verse along with your OP next time? It sucks to have to go look up the verse on Google just so I can answer your question.

And no..................I'm not gonna post the verse for you either. If others want to know what the verse says, they can look it up themselves like I did.

Yes. Hebrew does not always translate well into English.

The translation in my Bible of Genesis 3:8 - When they heard the sound of the Lord God moving about in the garden at the breezy time of day, the man and his wife hid themselves...

Some Hebrew translations into English use - When they heard the voice of the Lord God
Another notes - They heard the sound of the Holy One as He walked in the garden in the wind of the day...

While the English translation gives the impression it was the sound of walking or moving around, the Hebrew indicates it was the sound of God. As you note this communication could have been more like we think of telepathy or of hearts communicating.

No. The Hebrew indicates that it was the sound of God moving. Trying to discount that part changers the entire passage. However, even ignoring that part. How does one "hear" something that is not physical?

Apparently, the only one that has a problem with that paragraph is you. You attempt to limit an omnipotent entity that is so far beyond our ken that we may never understand why he does what he does. If he wanted Adam and Eve to hear his footsteps or any other sound in the garden, he certainly had the power to make that happen.