Putin=1.......U.S.A.=0

[Correll]

Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population.

Given that fucked up "rationale", our southwestern states would be part of Mexico and France will soon be a Muslim country.

I don't want to derail the thread, but my point stands. Russia is going to give a fuck about russians, in the baltics, the Ukraine, ect.

Even TRYING to stop that, will require a new Cold War, and there are no us interests involved to justify that.

 

[Redfish]

There is absolutely no reason that we cannot have mutually beneficial relationships with Russia. We have a common enemy-----------Isis and radical islam. The Russian people are good people, they have the same goals that we have. Putin is trying to do what is best for his country, Trump is trying to do what is best for his country. Both are doing their jobs.

Lets let them work it out and see what can be accomplished.

I don't understand why the dems and libs, now that Trump is president, want war with Russia.

 

[Redfish]

Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population.

Given that fucked up "rationale", our southwestern states would be part of Mexico and France will soon be a Muslim country.

both of those things are happening as we speak.

 

[nat4900]

It was a private meeting. Diplomacy requires it.

NO, moron.......Meetings that impact our country CANNOT be "private" and UNrecorded

 

[CrusaderFrank]

From the much awaited Putin-Trump meeting, we can conclude that Putin got ALL that he wanted, and the first hint of what was to happen could be discerned from the lack of transparency regarding what the meeting really addressed.

Putin got what he wanted.......To have Russia, once again, be recognized as a world power in par with the U.S.

Regarding the Russian hacking, Trump has long "cleared" Putin of any wrong doings, as Putin clearly wanted..............Had this meeting yielded a thorough transcript of Trump .....as a "strong" leader........stating, "Look Putin, my intelligence agencies are very good and they tell me that you DID interfere in our elections and this MUST STOP or Russia will be subjected to additional sanctions and retaliatory actions against the Russian Government...."...........and had that exchange been recorded, Trump would have GAINED respect for both the left and the right in our country.......But, instead, Trump opted to be Putin's stooge and simply concluded that whatever the past may or may not be....."let's proceed as if nothing happened"...

The U.S. "lost" and Putin "won"........If anything, this meeting was strictly a business one, where Rex probably got a nod from the Russian to drill in the arctic, and conceded that Russia could be belligerent all that country may want regarding the Ukraine and other Russian bordering countries. (and, of course, installing any missile defense in Poland is just another "gift" to both our military complex spending AND a great tool for Putin to also claim to be the "defender" of Russian sovereignty along that border.)

Bottom line.........Putin comes off stronger, and the U.S. as compliant....Some "art of the deal", don't you think?

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

Jake wants Russia to aid Hillary in 2020

 

[Doc1]

Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population.

Given that fucked up "rationale", our southwestern states would be part of Mexico and France will soon be a Muslim country.

I don't want to derail the thread, but my point stands. Russia is going to give a fuck about russians, in the baltics, the Ukraine, ect.

Even TRYING to stop that, will require a new Cold War, and there are no us interests involved to justify that.

Actually it would require a hot war. We have troops and materiel either in country there or VERY close to it. We won't pull them out.

 

[Doc1]

It was a private meeting. Diplomacy requires it.

NO, moron.......Meetings that impact our country CANNOT be "private" and UNrecorded

Prove it.

 

[occupied]

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

After all, you were there.

"... should have went ..."?

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.

 

[Redfish]

Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population.

Given that fucked up "rationale", our southwestern states would be part of Mexico and France will soon be a Muslim country.

I don't want to derail the thread, but my point stands. Russia is going to give a fuck about russians, in the baltics, the Ukraine, ect.

Even TRYING to stop that, will require a new Cold War, and there are no us interests involved to justify that.

Good point. The majority of citizens of Ukraine VOTED to rejoin Russia. Did any of our media report that?

 

[Doc1]

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

After all, you were there.

"... should have went ..."?

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.

No, we are bein set up for War and it would have happened no matter WHO "won" the election.

 

[Correll]

There is absolutely no reason that we cannot have mutually beneficial relationships with Russia. We have a common enemy-----------Isis and radical islam. The Russian people are good people, they have the same goals that we have. Putin is trying to do what is best for his country, Trump is trying to do what is best for his country. Both are doing their jobs.

Lets let them work it out and see what can be accomplished.

I don't understand why the dems and libs, now that Trump is president, want war with Russia.

Trump wants peace so they support conflict.


They are vile.

 

[Redfish]

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

After all, you were there.

"... should have went ..."?

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.

bullshit. Trump is dealing with Russia the same way Reagan dealt with them. From strength and truth.

Bullys like Putin only understand and respect one thing, strength. Obama was weak and was not respected by any world power.

 

[Redfish]

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

After all, you were there.

"... should have went ..."?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.

No, we are bein set up for War and it would have happened no matter WHO "won" the election.

set up by who? Where does that crap come from?

 

[Correll]

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

After all, you were there.

"... should have went ..."?

So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

For Russia to STOP the interference in the U.S. and European elections
For Russia to STOP the belligerence in trying to rebuild a Soviet empire...and
For Russia to STOP placing stooges like Trump in charge of her opponents.

1. Leaking the truth about what an evil bitch Hillary is, which is the most they MIGHT have done, is not much interference, and less than we have done in their back yard.

2. Russia is going to have an interest in nations with a large russian population. To get them to stop that, is to choose to have a new Cold War. There is not any American interests at stake to justify that.

3. Trump won the election, and if it wasn't fair and square there was far worse behavior by the anti-Trumpers.




DO you WANT another Cold War? With all the risk and expense that comes with it, and this time for no good reason?

Putin wants a cold war and he is going to have it. Your man just lost a crucial battle. He should have went into that meeting ready to counter anything but instead he basically showed Putin just how easy it is to Bullshit an American President.

Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.

NOthing in your post addressed anything in my post, that you were "replying" to.

THus my post stands.



Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

 

[nat4900]

Good point. The majority of citizens of Ukraine VOTED to rejoin Russia. Did any of our media report that?

Moron.......The majority of Alabamans would have voted to secede from the U.S. in 1860.......and what would happen if in the next decade, the majority of Mexican-Americans in Texas "voted" to be part of Mexico and not the US???

 

[Redfish]

There is absolutely no reason that we cannot have mutually beneficial relationships with Russia. We have a common enemy-----------Isis and radical islam. The Russian people are good people, they have the same goals that we have. Putin is trying to do what is best for his country, Trump is trying to do what is best for his country. Both are doing their jobs.

Lets let them work it out and see what can be accomplished.

I don't understand why the dems and libs, now that Trump is president, want war with Russia.

Trump wants peace so they support conflict.


They are vile.

and desperate. their desperation makes them dangerous. The idiots still don't understand why they lost in 2016 and keep losing.

 

[Mac1958]

I don't understand why the dems and libs, now that Trump is president, want war with Russia.

I don't think they actually want war with Russia. They just want anything that will make Trump and the GOP look bad.

The standard "party over country" psychosis that afflicts hardcore partisan ideologues.

One of the dangers of this kind of thinking, though, is that it blinds the ideologue to any number of unintended consequences.
.

 

[Redfish]

Good point. The majority of citizens of Ukraine VOTED to rejoin Russia. Did any of our media report that?

Moron.......The majority of Alabamans would have voted to secede from the U.S. in 1860.......and what would happen if in the next decade, the majority of Mexican-Americans in Texas "voted" to be part of Mexico and not the US???

not a valid analogy, but considering the source, not surprising.

 

[Correll]

Good point. The majority of citizens of Ukraine VOTED to rejoin Russia. Did any of our media report that?

Moron.......The majority of Alabamans would have voted to secede from the U.S. in 1860.......and what would happen if in the next decade, the majority of Mexican-Americans in Texas "voted" to be part of Mexico and not the US???

So, are you rejecting the results of that vote and if so, on what grounds?

 

[Auld Phart]

Good point. The majority of citizens of Ukraine VOTED to rejoin Russia. Did any of our media report that?

Moron.......The majority of Alabamans would have voted to secede from the U.S. in 1860.......and what would happen if in the next decade, the majority of Mexican-Americans in Texas "voted" to be part of Mexico and not the US???

would have voted to secede from the U.S. in 1860

1860?