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Russia must stay within Russia if it wants to survive in the 21st century.
How bout the US? Maybe it should scale back its presence in so many countries? Why 700 bases worldwide? Why a military presence in a 150 countries?
Russia has ALREADY allied with Allah's FAVE------IRAN
Iran doesn't bring enough to an alliance. They'll need a rising global power like India to counter-balance US/NATO dominance.
Of course they do, they bring a willingness to die.
No, they don't bring enough power to the alliance. Russia and China would need a more powerful third member. Keep in mind, the US and NATO currently dominate the world. It would take a whole lotta power to counter-balance it.
WE are NATO. Iran can and will tie up resources we will need elsewhere. The wildcard is Turkey.
The US alone, spends $800 Billion on its military. That's not counting the additional $Millions NATO allies spend on their militaries. Russia and China combined, spend about a $120 Billion. The US alone, has 700 bases worldwide. Russia and China combined, have 6 bases worldwide. So it's not even close at this point.
Russia and China would need to bring in a major power to their alliance. India's the only one i can see possibly joining. Iran and North Korea are only minor players on the world stage. They don't bring much to an alliance trying to counter-balance US/NATO dominance.
I don't think that is the naysayer's argument. The argument is that we have far, far, far more more moah BANG than we need for the buck.Hawk is right-----DA MILITARY is----a component of the USA economy. The budget of each military base actually ---MAKES WHOLE TOWNS in the USA ---
and they do so "overseas" as well. "MILITARY SPENDING" as expressed in
dollars and cents as if the money is "going down the drain"--------is the purview
of the very simple minded.
The Russians invaded we didn't. You can twist your thoughts but not the facts.There was no conflict in Ukraine until Russia invaded. And bombing 10's of thousands of civilians in Syria is solving what exactly?I think the hundreds of thousands dead in Ukraine & Syria would argue with you about that.
Russia is by far the biggest bully on the world stage.
Russia did not create these conflicts, Russia only tries to solve them.
Untrue. The problems began when the US/West supported the illegal Coup in Kiev. The Russians merely responded.
I don't think that is the naysayer's argument. The argument is that we have far, far, far more more moah BANG than we need for the buck.Hawk is right-----DA MILITARY is----a component of the USA economy. The budget of each military base actually ---MAKES WHOLE TOWNS in the USA ---
and they do so "overseas" as well. "MILITARY SPENDING" as expressed in
dollars and cents as if the money is "going down the drain"--------is the purview
of the very simple minded.
The Russians invaded we didn't. You can twist your thoughts but not the facts.There was no conflict in Ukraine until Russia invaded. And bombing 10's of thousands of civilians in Syria is solving what exactly?I think the hundreds of thousands dead in Ukraine & Syria would argue with you about that.
Russia is by far the biggest bully on the world stage.
Russia did not create these conflicts, Russia only tries to solve them.
Untrue. The problems began when the US/West supported the illegal Coup in Kiev. The Russians merely responded.
It all started with the US/West-backed Coup in Kiev. It can't all be blamed on Russia. But regardless, no other nation on earth does more invading and killing than the US. It's the last country that should be preaching to others on that issue. Extremely disingenuous and hypocritical.
Iran doesn't bring enough to an alliance. They'll need a rising global power like India to counter-balance US/NATO dominance.
Of course they do, they bring a willingness to die.
No, they don't bring enough power to the alliance. Russia and China would need a more powerful third member. Keep in mind, the US and NATO currently dominate the world. It would take a whole lotta power to counter-balance it.
WE are NATO. Iran can and will tie up resources we will need elsewhere. The wildcard is Turkey.
The US alone, spends $800 Billion on its military. That's not counting the additional $Millions NATO allies spend on their militaries. Russia and China combined, spend about a $120 Billion. The US alone, has 700 bases worldwide. Russia and China combined, have 6 bases worldwide. So it's not even close at this point.
Russia and China would need to bring in a major power to their alliance. India's the only one i can see possibly joining. Iran and North Korea are only minor players on the world stage. They don't bring much to an alliance trying to counter-balance US/NATO dominance.
Idiotic to compare the militaries with dollar amounts. The Russians and Chinese don't need to pay for expensive American salaries for its military and supporting civilian personnel. All of their budget is pennies to the dollar compared to the US because their living wage is so much lower. A common tactic used by lefties to try to make it look like we are spending way too much money and our military is bigger than all others combined. It's a complete lie, China alone has a far larger army than the US, and its navy is just as big.
Russia and Assad have killed more in the last few years in Syria then we've killed in the entire war on terror so don't give me that shitThe Russians invaded we didn't. You can twist your thoughts but not the facts.There was no conflict in Ukraine until Russia invaded. And bombing 10's of thousands of civilians in Syria is solving what exactly?I think the hundreds of thousands dead in Ukraine & Syria would argue with you about that.
Russia is by far the biggest bully on the world stage.
Russia did not create these conflicts, Russia only tries to solve them.
Untrue. The problems began when the US/West supported the illegal Coup in Kiev. The Russians merely responded.
It all started with the US/West-backed Coup in Kiev. It can't all be blamed on Russia. But regardless, no other nation on earth does more invading and killing than the US. It's the last country that should be preaching to others on that issue. Extremely disingenuous and hypocritical.
Russia and Assad have killed more in the last few years in Syria then we've killed in the entire war on terror so don't give me that shitThe Russians invaded we didn't. You can twist your thoughts but not the facts.There was no conflict in Ukraine until Russia invaded. And bombing 10's of thousands of civilians in Syria is solving what exactly?Russia did not create these conflicts, Russia only tries to solve them.
Untrue. The problems began when the US/West supported the illegal Coup in Kiev. The Russians merely responded.
It all started with the US/West-backed Coup in Kiev. It can't all be blamed on Russia. But regardless, no other nation on earth does more invading and killing than the US. It's the last country that should be preaching to others on that issue. Extremely disingenuous and hypocritical.
The Russians invaded Ukraine, not the Americans.
Then tell the Russian troops to leave, Art.
He makes some very valid points. Maybe people should start listening more to Putin?
Of course they do, they bring a willingness to die.
No, they don't bring enough power to the alliance. Russia and China would need a more powerful third member. Keep in mind, the US and NATO currently dominate the world. It would take a whole lotta power to counter-balance it.
WE are NATO. Iran can and will tie up resources we will need elsewhere. The wildcard is Turkey.
The US alone, spends $800 Billion on its military. That's not counting the additional $Millions NATO allies spend on their militaries. Russia and China combined, spend about a $120 Billion. The US alone, has 700 bases worldwide. Russia and China combined, have 6 bases worldwide. So it's not even close at this point.
Russia and China would need to bring in a major power to their alliance. India's the only one i can see possibly joining. Iran and North Korea are only minor players on the world stage. They don't bring much to an alliance trying to counter-balance US/NATO dominance.
Idiotic to compare the militaries with dollar amounts. The Russians and Chinese don't need to pay for expensive American salaries for its military and supporting civilian personnel. All of their budget is pennies to the dollar compared to the US because their living wage is so much lower. A common tactic used by lefties to try to make it look like we are spending way too much money and our military is bigger than all others combined. It's a complete lie, China alone has a far larger army than the US, and its navy is just as big.
It's just fact. The US vastly outspends several major foreign militaries combined. That includes China and Russia. China and Russia are no match against the US and NATO. It isn't even close. Maybe in a couple decades, China and Russia could challenge the US/NATO. But certainly not right now.
The Russians invaded Ukraine, not the Americans.
If Russians invaded Ukraine, they would have already finished the Junta in Kiev.
You watched too much fake news, RF-Troops never invaded Ukraine.
BTW, Crimean Peninsula was an autonomy within the Ukraine, with special constitutional rights, like the right to abandon the Ukrainian state. And yes, there was an agreement between the RF and the legal Ukrainian government about the location of RF-Troops on this peninsula. As we see, there was no invasion, the lying media just brainwashed some brain dead people.
No, they don't bring enough power to the alliance. Russia and China would need a more powerful third member. Keep in mind, the US and NATO currently dominate the world. It would take a whole lotta power to counter-balance it.
WE are NATO. Iran can and will tie up resources we will need elsewhere. The wildcard is Turkey.
The US alone, spends $800 Billion on its military. That's not counting the additional $Millions NATO allies spend on their militaries. Russia and China combined, spend about a $120 Billion. The US alone, has 700 bases worldwide. Russia and China combined, have 6 bases worldwide. So it's not even close at this point.
Russia and China would need to bring in a major power to their alliance. India's the only one i can see possibly joining. Iran and North Korea are only minor players on the world stage. They don't bring much to an alliance trying to counter-balance US/NATO dominance.
Idiotic to compare the militaries with dollar amounts. The Russians and Chinese don't need to pay for expensive American salaries for its military and supporting civilian personnel. All of their budget is pennies to the dollar compared to the US because their living wage is so much lower. A common tactic used by lefties to try to make it look like we are spending way too much money and our military is bigger than all others combined. It's a complete lie, China alone has a far larger army than the US, and its navy is just as big.
It's just fact. The US vastly outspends several major foreign militaries combined. That includes China and Russia. China and Russia are no match against the US and NATO. It isn't even close. Maybe in a couple decades, China and Russia could challenge the US/NATO. But certainly not right now.
You seem to be suggesting we trim down the military in order for a fight with other countries to be "fair". The point is to have a vastly superior one so they don't challenge us. That's what helps keep the peace. Russia and China are already challenging the US after decades of military cuts.
