Question for those pushing a "living wage"

[alan1]

You make an interesting point

But as a follow up. If your employee doesn't earn enough to support himself, should the taxpayer make up the difference?

Should an employer have the taxpayers support his employees just so that he can profit off of substandard wages?

If you're working you should not get taxpayer subsidies.

I agree......you should make enough to support yourself

Yes you should, but that is up to you decide and aspire to, not the employer or the government.
Nice to know that you realize "yourself' is the answer and not "your family".

 

[OnePercenter]

People are paid what they are worth. It's their responsibility to make a living wage by educating themselves. If they don't like what an employer pays them get a better job.

Fast food is hardly a career.

Employees make all of the revenue for a company. How much should that be worth?

 

[alan1]

People are paid what they are worth. It's their responsibility to make a living wage by educating themselves. If they don't like what an employer pays them get a better job.

Fast food is hardly a career.

Employees make all of the revenue for a company. How much should that be worth?

Depends upon the value they add.

The person that asks "Do you want fries with that" isn't as valuable as the person that writes the software running the cash register.

 

[The T]

14th due process clause (government can take your property with due process)... 16th taxing amendment.

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He asked "what gives the Federal government, or ANY government the right to force businesses to pay what the government dictates? Can YOU cite that in the Constitution?"

I provided the correct answer.

Yes you did.

 

[The T]

You make an interesting point

But as a follow up. If your employee doesn't earn enough to support himself, should the taxpayer make up the difference?

Should an employer have the taxpayers support his employees just so that he can profit off of substandard wages?

If you're working you should not get taxpayer subsidies.

Correct.

 

[Noomi]

You make an interesting point

But as a follow up. If your employee doesn't earn enough to support himself, should the taxpayer make up the difference?

Should an employer have the taxpayers support his employees just so that he can profit off of substandard wages?

If you're working you should not get taxpayer subsidies.

Then how is someone meant to survive on a casual wage?

 

[Noomi]

People are paid what they are worth. It's their responsibility to make a living wage by educating themselves. If they don't like what an employer pays them get a better job.

Fast food is hardly a career.

Employees make all of the revenue for a company. How much should that be worth?

Depends upon the value they add.

The person that asks "Do you want fries with that" isn't as valuable as the person that writes the software running the cash register.

Except no one asks whether you want fries with that.

 

[The T]

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Read your HISTORY you dolt. And NO not Statist revisionist shit YOU quote.

IDIOT

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That just shows what an idiot YOU are. But YOU are a government worker on the DOLE.

Figures.

 

[The T]

Employees make all of the revenue for a company. How much should that be worth?

Depends upon the value they add.

The person that asks "Do you want fries with that" isn't as valuable as the person that writes the software running the cash register.

Except no one asks whether you want fries with that.

Wanna bet?

 

[The T]

You make an interesting point

But as a follow up. If your employee doesn't earn enough to support himself, should the taxpayer make up the difference?

Should an employer have the taxpayers support his employees just so that he can profit off of substandard wages?

If you're working you should not get taxpayer subsidies.

Then how is someone meant to survive on a casual wage?

They shouldn't EXPECT IT...but then WHY did they take the JOB? They ENTERED into a Contract...LEGAL. They HAVE the option to QUIT for something BETTER, now don't they?

 

[rightwinger]

Read your HISTORY you dolt. And NO not Statist revisionist shit YOU quote.

IDIOT

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That just shows what an idiot YOU are. But YOU are a government worker on the DOLE.

Figures.

I am not a government worker

 

[alan1]

Employees make all of the revenue for a company. How much should that be worth?

Depends upon the value they add.

The person that asks "Do you want fries with that" isn't as valuable as the person that writes the software running the cash register.

Except no one asks whether you want fries with that.

Yer doing it wrong.
Must be why you can't get a promotion at your job.
Yeah, you told us you work at McDonalds.

 

[Noomi]

If you're working you should not get taxpayer subsidies.

Then how is someone meant to survive on a casual wage?

They shouldn't EXPECT IT...but then WHY did they take the JOB? They ENTERED into a Contract...LEGAL. They HAVE the option to QUIT for something BETTER, now don't they?

Except there is not enough full time, decent paying jobs to go around, is there?

 

[alan1]

Then how is someone meant to survive on a casual wage?

They shouldn't EXPECT IT...but then WHY did they take the JOB? They ENTERED into a Contract...LEGAL. They HAVE the option to QUIT for something BETTER, now don't they?

Except there is not enough full time, decent paying jobs to go around, is there?

Second time your emotional response failed to address the point.

 

[The T]

Then how is someone meant to survive on a casual wage?

They shouldn't EXPECT IT...but then WHY did they take the JOB? They ENTERED into a Contract...LEGAL. They HAVE the option to QUIT for something BETTER, now don't they?

Except there is not enough full time, decent paying jobs to go around, is there?

AND...Ding...DING...why is that? Could it BE POLICY from this administration that IS destroying the Private sector on purpose? The BIG BOOT of Government Regulation/TAXATION that is causing it?

*NAH*...couldn't be...

 

[The T]

They shouldn't EXPECT IT...but then WHY did they take the JOB? They ENTERED into a Contract...LEGAL. They HAVE the option to QUIT for something BETTER, now don't they?

Except there is not enough full time, decent paying jobs to go around, is there?

Second time your emotional response failed to address the point.

Yep.

 

[alan1]

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That just shows what an idiot YOU are. But YOU are a government worker on the DOLE.

Figures.

I am not a government worker

Yer still in the sewer.

 

[OKTexas]

So, you are against against a mandated pay raise for millions of fellow Americans. Not only that but you 'd be in favor of vacating the current minimum wage law , allowing wages to spiral infinitely downward. Yet you are a friend of labor and supportive of labor, and would not deny them a raise if offered it by their employer.

With friends like you, who needs enemies?

So if I can do a job for 5 dollars an hour and that pay would meet my needs, I shouldn't have the ability to negotiate with the employer to get the job?

That pay would not meet your needs. Nor would any but a desperate man enter into that agreement .

Really, I didn't say it would be my only source of income, I might just be looking for some additional mad money, for my hobbies as an example. You see not everyone is the same so your cookie cutter approach doesn't always apply, that's what limiting freedom gets you, a fucked up system.

 

[rightwinger]

That just shows what an idiot YOU are. But YOU are a government worker on the DOLE.

Figures.

I am not a government worker

Yer still in the sewer.

Sewers are what makes civilization possible

 

[The T]

Then how is someone meant to survive on a casual wage?

They shouldn't EXPECT IT...but then WHY did they take the JOB? They ENTERED into a Contract...LEGAL. They HAVE the option to QUIT for something BETTER, now don't they?

Except there is not enough full time, decent paying jobs to go around, is there?

Can YOU say OBAMACARE? Uncertainty in the private sector? People aren't hiring/expanding because the Democrats/Obama WANT people feeding off the TAXPAYERS? SOMETIME if this keeps up there won't be any taxpayers left. THIS is NOT sustainable, and flies in the face of Liberty.

The so-called CHERISHED "Middle Class" are being destroyed by the very same that CLAIM to care about it.

But please? Plod on shall you?